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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:03 AM Jan 2021

Retired Lieutenant Colonel is identified as the MAGA rioter in body armor carrying zip ties

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9128637/MAGA-mob-rioter-dressed-combat-gear-carrying-zip-ties-Texas-Air-Force-veteran.html



Retired Lieutenant Colonel is identified as the MAGA rioter carrying zip ties who appeared to exit Nancy Pelosi's vandalized office - as his family say he became obsessed with Trump and believes in taking over the country

Retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Rendall Brock Jr., 53, was among the violent mob of Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol Wednesday


The father-of-three, who now lives in Dallas, was pictured on the Senate floor
He wore a combat helmet, body armor and a vinyl tag with the Punisher skull on - a symbol adopted by white supremacists and QAnon believers


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Two family members, who have not been named, told the New Yorker Brock called himself a patriot, had started making racist comments and that they believe he was influenced by white supremacy.

'[He started saying] weird rage talk, basically, saying he's willing to get in trouble to defend what he thinks is right, which is Trump being the President, I guess,' one of the family members said.

They added that he developed a 'weird sense of power' from his military career and that he 'doesn't understand the fallout and the people he's hurting.'

That said, they were surprised to see him with the zip ties: 'I can't imagine what he was doing there with zip ties, or what he thought he was going to accomplish.'
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Retired Lieutenant Colonel is identified as the MAGA rioter in body armor carrying zip ties (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2021 OP
He. Was. Wanting. To. Take. Prisoners... Raster Jan 2021 #1
Pretty Sure He Wasn't There To... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #6
Yes. These people need to be punished with lots of jail time. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #45
I believe a gallows was setup outside and chants of, "Hang Pence," shouted. spike jones Jan 2021 #73
+1 Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #7
and why did he have combat gear? Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #9
Well the guy who tasered his own nuts could probably have found another use for zips... housecat Jan 2021 #47
Recall liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2021 #64
Yes. Raster Jan 2021 #76
Treasonous bastard gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #2
He's trying to claim he was a sightseer... won't explain why zip ties are needed for tourism. apnu Jan 2021 #3
No one is going to believe it. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #5
Could this be why trump flew to Texas yesterday on the down low??? Oppaloopa Jan 2021 #61
That story turned out to be false. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #63
And, A Combat Helmet... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #8
We might need to in the future. Hugin Jan 2021 #28
+100 bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #68
He also claims that he was performing janitorial services, e.g., picking up NCjack Jan 2021 #67
He'a such a loser, he fails at gaslighting (nt) apnu Jan 2021 #80
This is not going to end well for him. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #4
LOCK HIM UP!!! secondwind Jan 2021 #10
Colonel of finance ? He doesn't look very tough even pwb Jan 2021 #11
Hope all of his kids are grown, North Shore Chicago Jan 2021 #12
Loss of pension and health care sounds like a good start hatrack Jan 2021 #13
If he retired from the reserves qazplm135 Jan 2021 #50
Looks like a different zip tie guy than this one: Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #14
yes, there were more than one zip tie guy...notice both have the punisher white supremacy badge Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #16
I had to look that up! Found this: Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #39
I've met Gerry several times (he's a friend of my friends) MurrayDelph Jan 2021 #83
Cool. And yeah, sounds like it from the article. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #93
I think they have at least identified that one too. I want to see the one doc03 Jan 2021 #17
Good. I wish he'd get time & while serving it also have to take a civics course Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #24
About the "flag guy"........ MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #54
Ah, excellent article. I've not seen much from Pierce lately. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #60
Yes, rail hopping zip tie guy has also DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #30
Collect 'em all! Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #40
Do you have a link? cannabis_flower Jan 2021 #49
Yes, here's the DU thread DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #86
That is "zip tie guy #1" . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #70
John Scott-Railton identified him as Eric Munchel from Nashville TN Danascot Jan 2021 #82
Turns out he was there with his mother DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #84
I agree. Different guys. Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #23
those are tough cuffs. used for prisoners. peacebuzzard Jan 2021 #26
That guy is a bartender from Nashville, TN. He's been identified. NT CottonBear Jan 2021 #41
Pudgy retired Lt Col is * zip guy #2 *. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #69
recall to active duty and prosecute onethatcares Jan 2021 #15
That should have been done with Flynn several years ago. nt doc03 Jan 2021 #19
Absolutely, and it's imperative now that Flynn be recalled and court martialed. benfranklin1776 Jan 2021 #56
He needs to be given a dishonorable discharge. Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #31
Can they do that? Recall someone back to active duty? Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #95
If he's reserve, they activate him onethatcares Jan 2021 #96
Pleading sincere ignorance of the law is no excuse. He was caught in the act of insurrection. ancianita Jan 2021 #18
should read onethatcares Jan 2021 #25
Thanks! ancianita Jan 2021 #27
He went to the Air Force Academy and took an oath to uphold the Constitution. tinrobot Jan 2021 #62
is that the white supremacist sign lanlady Jan 2021 #20
Arrest him! LeftInTX Jan 2021 #21
Arrest, Court Martial, strip him of his retirement.... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2021 #22
Just FYI.. Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #29
sounds like another charge but onethatcares Jan 2021 #33
??? They weren't just "some guys." They were reporters who were there and saw what happened. Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #59
I apologize onethatcares Jan 2021 #65
Acceptted. Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #89
Similarly there is a photo of a police dufflel bag for Restraints on the floor in the Capitol Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #72
Why are you telling me things I already know? Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #81
I'm sorry your highness. I failed to read your mind. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #85
Nor I yours... Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #90
As you say, we end on a well note. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #92
I'm sorry I failed to state I was writing for all DU members and not just you Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #87
That's OK. Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #88
Cool. Very understandable. Take comfort: "Democracy is the biggest threat to white supremacy". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #91
He just "found" those flex cuffs and was going to turn them over to police... honest!!!! PA Democrat Jan 2021 #32
and he got to the rank of LTC onethatcares Jan 2021 #34
My understanding is that it's not that hard qazplm135 Jan 2021 #51
He was a pilot Sgent Jan 2021 #79
"I didn't want to get stabbed or hurt," citing "B.L.M. and Antifa" as potential aggressors." Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #35
He also claims he never entered Pelosi's office PA Democrat Jan 2021 #37
Aaand here he is at the entrance to Pelosi's office Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #42
President Biden needs to form a commission to rid the military and police of white supremist and RAB910 Jan 2021 #36
More from your link ... please read UpInArms Jan 2021 #38
Since he retired, isn't he eligible to be called back TNNurse Jan 2021 #43
He looks so vacant.... zentrum Jan 2021 #44
there was another one. At least one other one. Cobalt Violet Jan 2021 #46
Prison, NOW. 634-5789 Jan 2021 #48
What was the plan for hostages? Public executions? dlk Jan 2021 #52
Lock. Him. Up. Wednesdays Jan 2021 #53
Take his.... MarcoZandrini Jan 2021 #55
He needs to be reactivated and then Court Martialed R Merm Jan 2021 #57
YES! Cozmo Jan 2021 #71
Not zip ties superpatriotman Jan 2021 #58
noted Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #78
He needs to be recalled back into the service. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #66
Arrest and lock this idiot up Gothmog Jan 2021 #74
Courts martial ...just to be sure Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #75
He must be called back into active duty for Court Martial. NoRoadUntravelled Jan 2021 #77
Who are his active duty associates? BrightKnight Jan 2021 #94

Raster

(21,010 posts)
1. He. Was. Wanting. To. Take. Prisoners...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:06 AM
Jan 2021

...subduing someone is the ONLY THING zip ties are used for.

ProfessorGAC

(77,068 posts)
6. Pretty Sure He Wasn't There To...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jan 2021

...to neaten up microphone & network cables.
You're right.
Those were to take prisoners.
Needs to be recalled & court martialed. No pension, no benefits.
Scum!

Lonestarblue

(13,539 posts)
45. Yes. These people need to be punished with lots of jail time.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:30 AM
Jan 2021

I wonder if there’s a way to de-program these people. They’re rabid nuts who had planned their own kangaroo court to put Pence, and probably others, on trial for betraying Trump. Who knows what they would have done had they been able to find and capture Pence.

spike jones

(2,026 posts)
73. I believe a gallows was setup outside and chants of, "Hang Pence," shouted.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jan 2021

Pretty clear what they would have done.

housecat

(3,138 posts)
47. Well the guy who tasered his own nuts could probably have found another use for zips...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:32 AM
Jan 2021

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,232 posts)
64. Recall
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

Recall him to active duty, court martial him, strip him of his rank and benefits and send him to Leavenworth.

apnu

(8,790 posts)
3. He's trying to claim he was a sightseer... won't explain why zip ties are needed for tourism.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:07 AM
Jan 2021

I’ve dealt with these wannabe Klansmen before, they are supreme gaslighters.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
5. No one is going to believe it.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jan 2021

He lied about every aspect of the story. Just like his hero.

ProfessorGAC

(77,068 posts)
8. And, A Combat Helmet...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jan 2021

...and body armor.
I've been to DC several times. Never did I pack a helmet & body armor.

Hugin

(37,936 posts)
28. We might need to in the future.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:30 AM
Jan 2021

Although, after listening to President-elect Biden yesterday, I have great faith in he and Vice President-elect Harris's ability to turn this bus around.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
67. He also claims that he was performing janitorial services, e.g., picking up
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jan 2021

trash on the floor that included zip-ties. Apparently, before he could place them in a trash can, he photo was taken.

North Shore Chicago

(4,252 posts)
12. Hope all of his kids are grown,
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jan 2021

because he is getting a nice retirement pension that immediately needs to come to a full stop!

hatrack

(65,029 posts)
13. Loss of pension and health care sounds like a good start
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jan 2021

True, it's just a beginning, but you've got to start somewhere.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
50. If he retired from the reserves
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:37 AM
Jan 2021

As the article suggests, he's not old enough to draw a pension yet.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
39. I had to look that up! Found this:
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jan 2021

How do you stop the far-right using the Punisher skull? Make it a Black Lives Matter symbol

Gerry Conway, co-creator of the popular Marvel outlaw, has been appalled to see his iconography appropriated by white supremacists - and aims to turn the tables.

Sometimes it takes a bootleg T-shirt to stop a bootleg T-shirt. For years, the military, the police and white supremacists have displayed the skull symbol of Marvel’s comic-book outlaw the Punisher on unauthorised clothes, bumper stickers and spray-paint stencils. But, as Black Lives Matter protests around the world draw attention to institutionalised racism, Gerry Conway, the Punisher’s politically progressive co-creator and writer, is launching an unusual fundraiser: his own line of shirts designed by people of colour to take the symbol back from the right, with proceeds to go to Black Lives Matter.

“[The skull] should be a symbol for Black Lives Matter,” Conway says. “It should be a symbol for people on the outside of the justice system. I want the movement to claim this symbol for themselves.”

(More and see the images): https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/jun/11/how-do-you-stop-the-far-right-using-the-punisher-skull-make-it-a-black-lives-matter-symbol

doc03

(39,135 posts)
17. I think they have at least identified that one too. I want to see the one
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:19 AM
Jan 2021

that carried the Southern flag of treason get a few years.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
24. Good. I wish he'd get time & while serving it also have to take a civics course
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jan 2021

partly focusing on why carrying the battle flag of the confederacy that waged a bloody war against the USA so they could keep owning people is the opposite of patriotism.

MyOwnPeace

(17,601 posts)
54. About the "flag guy"........
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jan 2021

From Charles Pierce, writer for Esquire:

The guy with the Confederate battle flag was walking through my favorite spot in the Capitol: just outside the Senate chamber, and to the right as you walk over from the House of Representatives. On the walls around that corner are portraits of Henry Clay, who tried to keep the country from coming apart by cutting deals with the slave power, and John C. Calhoun, who provided the philosophical basis for why those deals were futile, and Charles Sumner, who was beaten half to death at his desk in the Senate chamber, which was one of the first signs that Clay’s compromises were futile because Calhoun’s philosophy had triumphed over them, as much of the country knew it would. And there was the banner of its triumph, being walked past the chamber of the United States Senate, its meaning well-understood by the insurrectionist who bought it. A couple of days later, Josh Delaney, a Black staffer in the office of Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, the woman holding the seat that once belonged to Charles Sumner, wrote in The Boston Globe:



Growing up in Georgia, I saw that flag several times a week in front of homes, restaurants, and stores as a symbol of hate that carried a simple message: You are not welcomed here. But this was the first time I’d seen that message on display at my place of work. I’ve walked the halls of Congress so often that I probably take for granted how my very presence in the building is a miracle — the result of years of hard-fought civil rights victories and justice work. And consequently, a threat to racists and white nationalists who wish to take us back to whenever they perceived America was “great.” I spent most of the afternoon letting friends know I was OK and safe, but this photo made me realize, no, I’m not. And the rioters in that mob did not intend for me or my colleagues to feel safe.



https://link.newsletter.esquire.com/view/59d4186d1acbcda1518b5027dggmv.8xr/0ff2c604


Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
60. Ah, excellent article. I've not seen much from Pierce lately.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jan 2021

Thanks for the reminder as well as that particular piece.

I think that whenever anyone tries to use that BS line about the traitor flag, "It's not hate, it's heritage," we all need to reply, "But your heritage is hate."

DeminPennswoods

(17,557 posts)
30. Yes, rail hopping zip tie guy has also
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jan 2021

been identified. There's a DU thread linking to all rioters who've been ID'd so far. This guy is the current last entry.

Danascot

(5,259 posts)
82. John Scott-Railton identified him as Eric Munchel from Nashville TN
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jan 2021

Amazing detective work aided by 100s of contributors.


DeminPennswoods

(17,557 posts)
84. Turns out he was there with his mother
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

That's how the internet detectives got a picture of his unmasked face.

benfranklin1776

(7,026 posts)
56. Absolutely, and it's imperative now that Flynn be recalled and court martialed.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jan 2021

He was publicly calling for a coup at Traitor Trump’s insurrection planning conference prior to this taking place, thereby giving an aura of pseudo-legitimacy to the vile plotting, since his insurrectionist rantings were relayed by the media as coming from a retired General.

Liberal In Texas

(16,352 posts)
31. He needs to be given a dishonorable discharge.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:34 AM
Jan 2021

And lose the cushy benefits a retired Lt. Col. would enjoy.

ancianita

(43,314 posts)
18. Pleading sincere ignorance of the law is no excuse. He was caught in the act of insurrection.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jan 2021

tinrobot

(12,100 posts)
62. He went to the Air Force Academy and took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jan 2021

He is definitely not ignorant of the law.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,967 posts)
22. Arrest, Court Martial, strip him of his retirement....
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jan 2021

This is a DISGRACE to the oath this man took to uphold and defend the US Constitution against enemies Foreign and Domestic. His service to this country should also be stripped from him for what he is a TRAITOR.

Silver Gaia

(5,386 posts)
29. Just FYI..
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jan 2021

I saw a reporter on Don Lemon's show on CNN last night who said they saw some men break into a police locker containing protective equipment and the white zip ties came from there.

onethatcares

(17,003 posts)
33. sounds like another charge but
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jan 2021

some guys saying something about someone doesn't quite cut it.

I guess he was going to sell them to pay for his bus ticket back to Texas...

Silver Gaia

(5,386 posts)
59. ??? They weren't just "some guys." They were reporters who were there and saw what happened.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jan 2021

The reporter was just reporting what he saw, that the guys he saw with them didn't bring them in with them. He was quite sure they decided they could be useful for their purpose once they found them, however. That's all.

For all we know, they broke into the locker to get them, knowing they would be there. We already think someone on the inside gave them info.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
72. Similarly there is a photo of a police dufflel bag for Restraints on the floor in the Capitol
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jan 2021

But there is no question those guys were prepared and wanted to "arrest" Pence and other lawmakers. Pelosi would have been a target.

The woman shot was breaking and entering into the Speaker's Lobby. She retweeted about arresting Pence and trying him for treason. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14844628

There was a gallows set up outside with a functioning noose.



Silver Gaia

(5,386 posts)
81. Why are you telling me things I already know?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:30 PM
Jan 2021

(And some of which have nothing to do with what I said?) I was merely repeating what a reporter had said on CNN. Neither he nor I have implied that the fact that at least SOME of the men carrying them had found them on site somehow absolved them of motive or guilt. I KNEW what the gallows was for. I saw it in the background of another shot early in the day and had no doubt that it was intended for executions. When I saw that a guillotine had been set up in Phoenix, AZ that clinched for me that this was their intention around the country, and that meant they were well organized. So, please, just stop. I was merely adding a bit of information to the discussion. That does not mean I need to have all of these other things I already know as well explained to me like I must be uninformed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
87. I'm sorry I failed to state I was writing for all DU members and not just you
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:32 PM
Jan 2021

More than that, writing for anyone who might read my post, not just DU members.

Silver Gaia

(5,386 posts)
88. That's OK.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:55 PM
Jan 2021

I'm sorry I snapped at you. I think we are all just stressed to the max and worried. Apologies.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
91. Cool. Very understandable. Take comfort: "Democracy is the biggest threat to white supremacy". nt
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jan 2021

PA Democrat

(13,429 posts)
32. He just "found" those flex cuffs and was going to turn them over to police... honest!!!!
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:35 AM
Jan 2021

More "honest" statements from Mr. Brock:

In an interview, Brock confirmed that he was the man in the photos and videos. He denied that he held racist views and echoed Trump’s baseless claims of election fraud, saying that he derived his understanding of the matter principally from social media. He told me that he had gone to Washington, D.C., to demonstrate peacefully. “The President asked for his supporters to be there to attend, and I felt like it was important, because of how much I love this country, to actually be there,” he said. Brock added that he did not identify as part of any organized group and claimed that, despite the scenes of destruction that day, he had seen no violence. When he arrived at the Capitol, he said, he assumed he was welcome to enter the building.

Brock denied that he had entered Pelosi’s office suite, saying that he “stopped five to ten feet ahead of the sign” bearing her title that insurrectionists later tore down and brandished. However, in the ITV video, he appears to emerge from the suite. Brock said that he had worn tactical gear because “I didn’t want to get stabbed or hurt,” citing “B.L.M. and Antifa” as potential aggressors. He claimed that he had found the zip-tie handcuffs on the floor. “I wish I had not picked those up,” he told me. “My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one. . . . I didn’t do that because I had put them in my coat, and I honestly forgot about them.” He also said that he was opposed to vandalizing the building, and was dismayed when he learned of the extent of the destruction. “I know it looks menacing,” he told me. “That was not my intent.”


https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-air-force-combat-veteran-breached-the-senate






onethatcares

(17,003 posts)
34. and he got to the rank of LTC
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jan 2021

with a thought process like that????? FFS, there are Airmen that have a better grip on reality than him.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
51. My understanding is that it's not that hard
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:39 AM
Jan 2021

to make O5 in the Air Force, at least compared to the Army and I got that from an Air Force Officer.

Sgent

(5,858 posts)
79. He was a pilot
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jan 2021

and made 0-5 in the reserves. Its entirely possible he never did anything that wasn't directly pilot related (ie no/little command). Same thing in the medical corp of most branches. 0-5 after reserving out for the 20 is a fairly unimpressive career for a USAFA grad.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
35. "I didn't want to get stabbed or hurt," citing "B.L.M. and Antifa" as potential aggressors."
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jan 2021

how many BLM has he seen at Trump rallies?

PA Democrat

(13,429 posts)
37. He also claims he never entered Pelosi's office
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jan 2021

except there is video that seems to dispute that as well.

He was probably going to turn those flex cuffs over to Speaker Pelosi...... yeah that sounds plausible.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
36. President Biden needs to form a commission to rid the military and police of white supremist and
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jan 2021

anti-American traitors like this loser

UpInArms

(55,176 posts)
38. More from your link ... please read
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:57 AM
Jan 2021
He then claims he 'found' the zip ties he was spotted carrying on the floor and merely picked them up so he could hand them in to a police officer - but then forgot.

'I wish I had not picked those up. My thought process there was I would pick them up and give them to an officer when I see one,' he said.

'I didn't do that because I had put them in my coat, and I honestly forgot about them.'

He also claimed he 'stopped five to ten feet ahead of the sign' at the entrance to Pelosi's office door and did not enter.

Footage appears to show him emerging from the office with a group of other rioters.

Further, Brock claimed he saw no violence and was opposed to damaging the Capitol.

'I know it looks menacing. That was not my intent,' he said.

Instead, he claimed he wore the body armor for his own protection because he feared he would get 'stabbed or hurt' by 'BLM or Antifa'.

Cobalt Violet

(9,976 posts)
46. there was another one. At least one other one.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jan 2021

There was another guy with flex ties that appeared thinner and had dark colored pants on.

dlk

(13,305 posts)
52. What was the plan for hostages? Public executions?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:39 AM
Jan 2021

This treasonous monster needs to be reactivated to military duty and lock up in the brig for the remainder of his unnatural life! (And any military benefits need to be immediately terminated!)

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
77. He must be called back into active duty for Court Martial.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

No retirement benefits or disability. Lose all privileges of his rank.

BrightKnight

(3,684 posts)
94. Who are his active duty associates?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:39 PM
Jan 2021

There was a former Navy intelligence guy there.
It is worth looking at that deeper.
He was not the only one with flex cuffs.

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