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PLEASE pay attention to this.Historian of coups and right-wing authoritarians here. If there are not severe consequences for every lawmaker & Trump govt official who backed this, every member of the Capitol Police who collaborated with them, this "strategy of disruption" will escalate in 2021
Link to tweet
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RKP5637
(67,112 posts)But I don't think we are going to have to wait until January 20th. If they have their way, all hell is going to break loose on the 17th......
BlueWavePsych
(3,319 posts)This cancer MUST be surgically removed, now!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
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ancianita
(43,257 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,444 posts)If so, the Mercers need to be charged as accessories because they provided the money to start that site.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,901 posts)Private Facebook groups, 4chan/8kun chat rooms and groups on the dark web are other places where seditious conspiracies are hatched.
wnylib
(25,720 posts)At a Twitter link on another DU thread, I scrolled down to read additional tweets not connected to the replies of the linked one. This was from the link in the DU thread about a warning from Fiona Hill.
Those other tweets quoted and provided links to posts from RW media like Parler. The RW posts bragged about a "Million Militia March" in DC on Jan 20, with activities beginning on Jan 17 and 19. They claim to have enough armed militia and ammunition that no army can stop them.
The stated goal is to takeover DC and federal government to prevent Biden from getting near the White House. They intend to occupy DC and halt government functioning until or unless Trump is confirmed as the reelected president.
Other plans call for occupations and attacks on government offices at the state level in Democratic states.
Looks like Jan 6 was a dry run to see where weaknesses and opportunities exist.
wnylib
(25,720 posts)that nevilledog posted a thread on this Jan 20 gathering of militias back in December. I missed it at that time.
Given what happened on Jan 6, this looks like a really bad time ahead. But, at least we learned last Wed which security people not to trust and got rid of some of them.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Delusional idiots. It's remarkable just how clueless these morons are. About everything, really.
LiberalArkie
(19,689 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(12,919 posts)NJCher
(42,997 posts)The only thing that gets through with them is the money. On my local NPR, there was a segment explaining why Twitter didn't ban trump before now. The guy who wrote The Social Dilemma was interviewed. He explains that it's because they have a revenue stream set up and they are reluctant to tamper too much with it. When they make big changes like banning the president, it could have unintended consequences for their bottom line.
What about the fact that allowing him to go on for so long like he did has unintended consequences for our democracy?
Not even a consideration.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)now & then one of them got Twitter jail for 12 hours or whatever. They, of course, are the oppressed Americans. They, who slavishly support a sociopath who has never even read the US Constitution, are the patriots.
The question now is will every true patriot with the power to do something about RW extremists--AKA the entire GOP--do everything they can to defeat these fascists?
I'm not all that hopeful about this.
DSandra
(1,719 posts)is at least partially responsible for anyone who gets injured, dies, and/ or the overthrow of our democracy.
Firestorm49
(4,533 posts)fwvinson
(488 posts)If he does, I dont think the pea shooters these guys carry will do it. And, if Pence doesn't protect our nation, can the Joint Chefs protect us?
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)that next time there will be many more mobsters and they will be much better armed.
The nationwide white supremacist "patriots" and "militias" will be coming out of the woodwork for this one..........
They have existed in the shadows, across the nation, practicing their military shit and have been just waiting for something like this.
This time these insurrection people will show up, enmasse, with full battle gear and assault weapons, armed to the teeth.
This could get really really ugly on a moments notice...............
NCDem47
(3,421 posts)No consequences only lead to them being more emboldened and the stakes being raised. Republicans and the cult CONTINUALLY test boundaries and cross them ALL THE GD TIME!
My frustration isn't directed at you OP, but, Lord Almighty.
The Rs have convinced themselves that they can just ride this out like its some scandal du jour. Americans will move on. Afterall, nobody was stopped on Wednesday from going to Starbucks or Target or ordering from Amazon online. They'll work OVERTIME to use their propaganda appartus to reframe the Wednesday terror attck as a march for First Amendment rights and double and triple down. It's what they do. It's what they've ALWAYS done.
33taw
(3,323 posts)Jon King
(1,910 posts)The momentum is with us now and must be used. All but the fanatics hated what happened. Trump must be prosecuted, Hawley and Cruz shunned. The Garland DOJ must use every resource to root out all right wingers they can. Prosecute for conspiracy all that planned to go to DC. Arrest hundreds and hundreds of them. Destroy their lives using the DOJ and IRS.
This is for all the marbles. A majority of the country wants stability, we must use this time to destroy as much as we can of the right wingers.
The Twitter ban is huge, Trump without Twitter is much, much weaker.
no 'witch hunt' just justice against the perpetrators of Jan 6th and before. From the top to the bottom of this chain of insurrectionist intent on "overthrow" of American government. There has to be accountability taken and responsibility proven for the Jan 6th, 2021 violent, deadly attack on the government and people of the United States of America.
llmart
(17,547 posts)A neighbor who is Facebook friends with a trumper told me that the trumper is now posting to her friends how she's "done with Trump and voting for Ted Cruz for President next time".
I sort of choked on my laughter. As if he'd have a snowball's chance. He'll be lucky if he isn't indicted for the incitement of the mob also.
KS Toronado
(23,704 posts)and didn't raise alarms to stop it, should receive the full blunt of the LAWS currently on record.
Guess this is what happens when an entire administration is made up of loyalists only.
sop
(18,359 posts)pretending it was only intended as a peaceful protest that unfortunately got out of hand. The second time around will be another matter entirely. In light of all the warnings, if these government officials don't respond appropriately to future threats of a violent overthrow of our democracy, they will be as guilty of treason as the actual seditionists.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)this Democratic Republic.
Reaching across the aisle is one thing when it's Democrats and Republicans. But Democrats must not seek common ground with authoritarians, fascists, and White Supremacists whose desire is to overthrow our government. Period.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,406 posts)He's Going To Be More Unleashed And Unhinged Than Ever
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fascism-future-ruth-ben-ghiat_n_5ff8c215c5b6c77d85e6a3d0
femmedem
(8,551 posts)Excellent, important read.
Amaryllis
(11,222 posts)Cosmocat
(15,399 posts)Tuesday was a BIG win for them.
He will be a complete menace even if they can root him out of 1600 PA.
They can deplatform him from the primary social media accounts, but eventually the primarily right wing sites like Parlor are going to land somewhere were they can operate with open lies and hatred without being shut down, he will lead those sites and keep cranking up the crazies, which are still going to be 40+% of Americans, and the main stream media will still report out on it.
They will continue to attack state houses, and federal, state and even local elected officials are going to be in grave danger.
sarchasm
(1,304 posts)prosecute!
NoMoreRepugs
(11,986 posts)stormed the Peoples House - what happens from this point on shapes the future. All the rules have changed IMO.
NHvet
(294 posts)We, in the Democratic party, since Nixon, have always "taken the high road", We go high when they go low", "we need to move on as a country", etc, etc, etc whatever slogan fits best.... Could you image what the outrage level would have been if it was our party that incited and encouraged this. We would have already seen public hangings of government officials in the town square. We need to peruse these crimes and criminals to the fullest extent. Otherwise we are complicit to whatever happens next.
bdamomma
(69,503 posts)of course the repigs were hellbent to impeach Clinton for his encounter with Monica, but not with this POS? Time to get to get even.
NHvet
(294 posts)....and as for getting even... IMHO it won't be enough. Not sure where we go from here, but we definitely need to put our big boy pants on and confront the beast.
housecat
(3,138 posts)and inchoate crimes are prosecuted, that would be a start
liberalhistorian
(20,903 posts)GOP and their minions have started singing the "unity, move forward, too divisive to do anything now" tunes, as well as attempting to blame Antigua and engaging in whataboutism and bothsides-ism whining. Fuck that!
Mr. Sparkle
(3,699 posts)PatrickforO
(15,409 posts)These are traitors to this republic.
Snackshack
(2,581 posts)If there are no consequences it is just a matter of time until another tries this and after learning what worked and what didnt this time has a greater chance of being successful.
Just wait if the documentation for the Pandemic loan program has not already been or is in the process of being shredded/deleted in the coming months year/s I think we are going to be gobsmacked by the amount of money that has simply vanished through the Cares Act. During the last GOP created disaster, the financial collapse in 2008 the GOP / Wall St. looted enormous amount of money and no one was ever held accountable. This was another crime in the long list of crimes bush jr & friends did that we were told to look forward not backward by Obama...a phrase I have heard a couple of times word for word just recently by Dems. If trump, his secretaries, GOP Senators who enabled / covered for him are given a pass on what has been done in last 4 yrs by Biden we are finished.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/trump-twitter-protests/
New research report, meanwhile, details planned events in Washington, Pittsburgh and every state capital
Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021, Twitters announcement said, noting two recent Trump tweets it said were likely to inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021.
Include Silicon Valley, server farms, and media company centers.
Also add trouble brewing for Jan 19 and 20.
bdamomma
(69,503 posts)The domestic terrorists are regrouping again, the Congress needs to get this murderer out.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Acting Secretary of Defense and other political appointees must not be in a position to block deployments.
People died because of the blockages.
Historic NY
(39,947 posts)think they can put the genie back in the jar they can't. They will be called to a reckoning, a reckoning for all the world to see. They must choose how their complicity will be recorded.
Lock him up.
(9,691 posts)*if there will be a new Congress? The brown-shirt teRrorist$ are released after a promise to show up in Court as they plan a second (and third?) wave!
The True Story of the Reichstag Fire and the Nazi Rise to Power: When the German parliamentary building went up in flames, Hitler harnessed the incident to seize power
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-reichstag-fire-and-nazis-rise-power-180962240/
calimary
(89,784 posts)calimary
(89,784 posts)And they want to be seen. So they can post photos-cooler-than-what-you-got and gain fame, notoriety, and maybe a step-up in the mob hierarchy. To win the Badassmanship trophy.
So fine then. The real award youre likely to win is the Most Likely To Catch COVID medal. If indeed you dont get identified or turned in, and you wind up facing charges and a lot of bad publicity.
Alex4Martinez
(3,305 posts)I'm righteously sick of this shit.
sprinkleeninow
(22,292 posts)I have never ever ever expected to witness any of this in all my born days.
It's on the other foot now for the reptilicans. They no likey...
c-rational
(3,184 posts)that stormed the Michigan capital. We had the Dumpster telling his minions they needed to take back that state. First a state, now the nation. There was no serious repercussions nor outrage about the attempted capture and killing of a Governor. This must not be allowed to continue. As Malcolm Nance said on MSNBC this am, there needs to be a serious scrubbing of government officials.
llmart
(17,547 posts)The state house in Lansing is GOP majority. They will never pass strict gun laws in Michigan. We need to clean house in Lansing too, not just in D.C. We made a huge step in 2018 with the amazing women running our state right now, but the GOP has people like the DeVos family propping them up every step of the way.
flying_wahini
(8,268 posts)Things are going to get a lot worse.
BrightKnight
(3,684 posts)I hope they don't take easy paths to restore order in the short run. A lasting peace has to be just. This will be much worse next time if everything is not done to assure a just peace.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,207 posts)Why would anyone abandon what they see as a winning strategy, if it doesn't come with consequences?
Blue Owl
(58,893 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
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llmart
(17,547 posts)THIS!
The military is OUR military and is supposed to be there for defense. They get a shitload of money from us taxpayers so let them use it to protect our democracy from these raving lunatics. Go ahead. Roll those tanks and humvees down the streets of DC if you see them amassing, and at the first sign of mayhem, roll them over their bodies as far as I'm concerned.
Yeehah
(6,370 posts)Everyone should understand and believe this.
blue-wave
(4,906 posts)K&R!!! Stop the petulant children now. They have bullied America for too long.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)They have openly let us all know who they are these past four years as they tried to bully us, so it should be pretty easy to identify them and have them legally dealt with.
apnu
(8,790 posts)The members of the Democratic party have made it very clear, in bold unmistakable terms, in the media that they are fully aware of this problem. That they are pushing with all their might for consequences for this rabble.
If the GOP opposes this, they are for rabble, chaos, and terror.
It is that simple people.
BadgerKid
(4,981 posts)sprinkleeninow
(22,292 posts)this will keep the FBI busy for a long time and many careers derailed.
DSandra
(1,719 posts)Otherwise the future of a ruling government is existentially threatened.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,719 posts)Hitler's Nazis tried a coup in 1923 (Beer Hall Putsch). It was a spectacular failure and Hitler was arrested and Imprisoned. In 1933, he became Chancellor.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)If you have a Twitter account, it would also be a good idea to post it there as well if you feel like it. If not, I will, with your permission.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,719 posts)Please do. It is a simple history lesson.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I will.
Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)There needs to be ZERO question as to the consequences. There should be an attitude of ZERO tolerance.
Jetheels
(991 posts)Cha
(318,547 posts)This, Too!
AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,651 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,735 posts)TigressDem
(5,126 posts)a la izquierda
(12,301 posts)And friends with the professor in the tweet. I study 20th century Latin America, though not authoritarian movements.
Anyway were in for a rough ride.
ecstatic
(35,046 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)they'd better keep them secret from Hawley, Cruz & the other traitors who will be happy to help the next wave of insurrectionists evade efforts to stop them.
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Wounded Bear
(64,189 posts)We're suffering for the "sins of our fathers" is so many ways. Hell, it's been a lot of the same fucking players since the 70s undermining our government.