Clyburn: They knew where I was supposed to be.

[RandySF]

Link to tweet

?s=21

[elleng]

1. OMG!

[Demsrule86]

17. Hmmm- inside job.

[dchill]

63. Of course it was. The party of Trump IS the party of Trump.

[RVN VET71]

67. In this case, Clyburn's observations need to be thoroughly investigated

He’s saying that someone very close to the Congress was able not only to locate his real working-office but also to get that information out to the assassins invading the building. Whoever that person or persons is needs to be identified and taken to Langley for some serious interrogating.

[dchill]

69. They basically had blueprints with annotations.

Or very helpful "tour guides."

[RVN VET71]

77. So they got those maps from someone.

If I’m investigating, I want to know who. Lots of questions for that person or those persons.

(It is possible that all of the maps were compiled from publicly accessible sources. I hope that’s how it went down. If that was the case, of course, those public sources will be closed up when they can be identified. And I’d still want to know what help they may have gotten to include those annotations.)

The thing is, this was not just a spontaneous act by a couple thousand drooling assholes. The core of the action was a group of people who planned to use the confusion for cover. While everyone, and I mean everyone, inside the building and on the Capitol grounds, who can be identified needs to be arrested and charged appropriately, the “core group” needs to be found and given VIP treatment in the infamous basement interview rooms in Langley. The core group were looking to kidnap, imprison, and possibly hang Senators and Representatives of the United States. And they can be expected to know The Who What and Where of this “movement”.

Interesting times.

[Blue_true]

85. I seriously doubt that the few "escape" tunnels for congresspeople are

“public” information. In fact, I would bet that not even typical Capitol Police officers and command officers know their exact location, and certainly wouldn’t be able to get ahold of detailed maps of their location. Essentially, the situation boils down to a relatively small number of people that can access and copy that information. I also bet my sweet ass that the FBI is quietly compiling the list of people that would have had access to the map information and is winnowing that list down to a few people whose assholes the FBI interrogators will be looking inside pretty intently.

[Raven123]

2. I wonder how many offices were entered and which had belongings stolen

At this point every Trump supporter in that building is a suspect.

[Spazito]

3. Wow!

Definitely something untoward going on!

[Ace Rothstein]

4. All communications for everyone who works in the building need to be reviewed.

[orangecrush]

16. This.

[plimsoll]

30. You have to investigate the Cruz, Hawley, Gohmert and their staffs.

It was a coup, and while not long lived it did overthrow the government of the US for some time. There were agents inside the building guiding and assisting. They need to be investigated and if assisting in any way, charged with any charges that can be brought against them.

[melm00se]

54. that won't happen

as it would require a warrant and i can't see probable cause to warrant searching "everyone who works in the building".

[Lasher]

68. What about security clearance reviews?

[TryLogic]

72. Speaking of security clearance. A major hole in our system is...

a person can be elected pres or VP without first passing security clearance. Like Trump !!! Then they get access to the deepest security information. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

Every viable candidate for pres or VP needs to be vetted for security clearance in advance. This needs to be passed ASAP.

[Lasher]

78. That thought has often occurred to me during the last 4 years.

But I don't know how it would work. A candidate has to be vetted before they are eligible? By whom? I hope you can imagine how that could get to be a sticky wicket.

[melm00se]

83. If you want/have a security clearance

you probably have a government issued phone.

I also believe that you waive certain rights under certain circumstances. Iit has been so long that i don't fully recall the form over than it was massive (100+ pages).

[Lasher]

84. My point is, security clearance reviews are periodically done.

I believe twice every 5 years. No subpoena required. Assuming all Capitol Police need a clearance, that would be a good place to start - with special emphasis on connections with with white supremacist groups like Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. The FBI warned us years ago that our law enforcement organizations would be infiltrated by these people and recent developments suggest that's just what happened.

[theneworiginal]

91. All communications on government devices are the property of the government.

Phone, email, search history, everything--they already own it. There will be evidence available because these guys thought no one would suspect law enforcement. Building a case to get warrants for personal phones won't be that hard once the evidence mounts. There is video of cops waving in protesters. Those cops are toast, and when they get told about the trouble they are facing, they will roll and name others. It's already happening.

[gratuitous]

5. Clyburn was there and I wasn't

So I'll credit his account, but my observation from the coverage was that there was such a huge mob of people overrunning the Capitol that they were bound to get into every nook and cranny, and harassed whoever they found wherever they were.

[Demsrule86]

21. No, they had specific places to get to...some. Somebody in the Capitol...maybe elected, employees,

cops...who knows...helped them.

[BComplex]

22. No, there were many offices that were easily accessible, with names on the doors, that were

not touched. There were members of this crowd who were professional domestic terrorists, and were helped and directed by people in positions of power within the coup.

[Tommymac]

28. Agreed

There is no doubt. And proof is right in front of ALL our faces - only the willfully blind who are deceiving themselves may not see it.

[BComplex]

34. "only the willfully blind who are deceiving themselves may not see it." So true.

And willful blindness might be what finally brings down our democracy.

[mountain grammy]

59. only the willfully blind or republicans

[Tommymac]

61. Nice. They are synonymous after all.

[mountain grammy]

65. oh yes, republican is synonymous with

coup, proud boys, kkk, boogaloo bois, and every idiot right winger out there.

[BadgerMom]

53. I'll try to find a Tweet from Christine Pelosi.

In it she expressed amazement that they so quickly found the House Parliamentarian’s office. She said she had been there a few times, each time with an escort or directions, but she said it’s remote enough that she doesn’t think she could find it now without help.

ON EDIT:
It was the Senate Parliamentarian’s office.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[MyMission]

55. Certain rioters had maps!

They had an agenda when they broke in. Not all, and they counted on the mob to district and cause chaos and add numbers while they went on their missions. Pelosi, pence, clyburn, were clearly targets. Other parts of the mob did invade offices and wreak havoc. Not all had zip ties and maps, but the ones that did were following specific orders and agendas.

[Sunsky]

89. IMO

It only looked that way because many of the insurrectionists were just clueless followers, but the leaders knew where they were going. On one of the videos I saw, they went from one door where they couldn't get in because it was guarded, they skipped a couple of doors then headed towards the Speaker's lobby (where the woman got shot).
I've been to the Capitol and it has such a huge and complex layout that it would take a group that is unfamiliar with the setup a good while to find one of these congressional offices without guidance.

[highplainsdem]

6. Noel Casler wonders if Matt Gaetz provided the info on office locations.

Link to tweet

[Geechie]

11. Gaetz

always was and always will be
THAT GUY.

[dalton99a]

13. +1

[George II]

14. He and Jordan should be barred from the House floor. The rule is anyone on the floor wears a MASK!

[Mr.Bill]

15. If they're involving him in this conspiracy,

They're dumber than he is.

[GoCubsGo]

24. It could also have been Devin Nunes, Gym Jordan, or

any other of the 120 traitors who tried to overturn the election. May whoever it is be found and prosecuted accordingly. These fuckers ALL need to be expelled from Congress, regardless.

[csziggy]

43. Wow! I barelly recognized Gym Jordan with his jacket on! nt

[HuskyOffset]

45. That picture is FAKE

You can tell because Gym Jordan has his jacket on.



Edit: Dammit, csziggy, you ninja'd me while I was typing my post!

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

86. The plans being made to thwart the insurrectionists who intend

to try again in a couple of weeks, must not be shared widely. I wouldn't trust Gaetz, Hawley, etc. not to tip off the fascist mob with any info that could help them circumvent the defenses.

How horrifying that this can even be a concern about US Congresspersons!

[Hortensis]

7. Jim Clyburn would have made a top-drawer hostage. He also believes

someone opened side doors for the insurrectionists.

[Frustratedlady]

8. They wouldn't have been kind to him, either.

I have a feeling that when these clowns are questioned, they will fold. Then, we'll find out who was targeted beyond Pence and Pelosi. I hope they also drop the info of who gave them the directions/suggestions on meeting their goals and finding the people they wanted to kidnap or injure.

Most of these had probably been in "Saturday training" and knew what they were doing.

How long before state capitols are invaded?

[OMGWTF]

29. The MAGAts already told us -- January 17th is when they invade state capitols.

I sure AF hope the good guys are ready this time.

[bdamomma]

49. Invade State Houses

would that be all Democratic State Houses???? This should be warning to all. a heads up perhaps.

[yellowdogintexas]

62. several were invaded Wednesday. nt

[AnotherMother4Peace]

9. Will Chief of Capitol Police Steven Sund (appointed by trump) be investigated for this?

This is from wikipedia: "U.S. Representative Zoe Lofgren, who chairs a committee responsible for Capitol security, said Sund lied to her before the event about the preparations he had made and the readiness of the National Guard. The following day House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for Sund's resignation. Pelosi also said that Sund never reached out to her, even more than 24 hours after the sacking of the Capitol and her office. He announced his resignation on January 7, 2021, which will be effective on January 16, 2021."

It sounds like he was coordinating with trump & trump's crew.

[BComplex]

27. He should not be allowed to resign. He needs to be fired.

Now.

[OMGWTF]

32. How thoughtful of him to give nine days notice. /s/

He needs to be thoroughly interrogated in a sealed room with a bright harsh light and his phone and computers examined.

[BComplex]

35. I know, right? In that many days he can cover a lot of people's butts.

He needs to be frogmarched out of there NOW!!!

[KayF]

10. Capitol police helped them find Schumer's office

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

12. Inside info was given to the insurrectionists by GOP members.

There is a long list of suspects

[RandySF]

18. I wonder about Hill staffers.

[dalton99a]

20. +1. Them, too

[appleannie1]

19. I figured that out when I saw pictures of the ransacking in the suite of rooms where all the House

records were kept. They would have had to walk passed a lot of doors to get there.

[scipan]

66. Parlamentarian office

Link to tweet

?s=20

[appleannie1]

81. Yes. At my age sometimes names disappear for a while. Thanks.

[NQCowboy68]

23. Good thread to read.

A good thread to read.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[MustLoveBeagles]

26. Lock them up!

Welcome to DU

[NQCowboy68]

39. Thanks

I've been a post "voyeur" for a while but this week's events has me livid. There is no doubt this was a coordinated coup across the administration and loyalists in congress and agencies like DOD.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

64. Looks like punk ass deleted the video. nt

[ffr]

25. They were going to take hostages and perhaps lynch them in a public display

There was every sense some of them had a mission and democrats were on their menu.

[Mr. Ected]

31. And they knew exactly where Capitol police stored the zip ties

Not only were the collaborators releasing inside information, they were aware of how the terrorists were going to use it. Premeditation. Felony. These Congressmen should all go to prison for a long, long time.

[OMGWTF]

37. Shitler wants to bring back firing squads.

I'm a peacenik and old hippie chick but these fkers have already murdered over 365,000 of us with their callous disregard of the Covid virus. MAGAts are also a deadly virus that must be stopped. As the late, great Julia Child would say "Fuck 'em, fuck 'em all." We executed the Rosenbergs for far less.

[AmericanCanuck]

33. Inside help from Kevin McCarthy's goons

Also, they must have had briefings on the capitol's layout and floor plans.

If I enter a large building like a previously unvisited hotel, it takes me a few days to get the layout in my head. The capitol is way bigger than any hotel with hundreds of corridors and a maze of passageways and stairs. Yet, these terrorists knew where everything was.

[Poiuyt]

36. Nancy Pelosi's daughter said the same thing about her mother's office

You'd never find it unless you knew where to look.

[marble falls]

38. This was so close to being soooo much worse. Thank the Lord those people were incompetent.

[Leith]

52. Maybe I'm getting overly paranoid after the events of this week

But that incompetent mob showed the world several weak points in security in the Capitol.

We better hang tight. It's going to get worse.

[marble falls]

57. They were aided and egged on by Trump. Don't you think some of them really meant to hang ...

... Mike Pence? Obviously there are ways for Congress to get out, because they sure did.

[PatrickforO]

40. The first act of the Biden DOJ needs to be

mounting a massive investigation into this attempted coup. These traitors need to be rooted out and held to account for their crimes.

We cannot afford to ever forget this. Ever. And we cannot take it lightly - oh, it's ok...they were just exercising free speech...

No, they weren't. They were engaged in an armed insurrection incited by a sitting president and stormed the Capitol with the intent to do harm to the Vice President of the United States, and members of the US Congress. They are traitors and criminals, domestic terrorists.

[LymphocyteLover]

48. Yes, 100%. WE NEED SERIOUS JUSTICE for this most serious of crimes against the USA

[LittleGirl]

73. Ding ding ding, spot on. Well said. nt

[Schmice3]

41. This calls for Denazification.

[TryLogic]

74. It calls for prosecution of all concerned.

[Mr. Sparkle]

44. I "suspect" their was GOP staffers all over this, orchestrating the push inside capital hill!

[lark]

46. Capitol Police are co-conspirators and gave the terrorists they info they requested.

Or even worse, some of the legislators told them! That's just chilling. I am so scared for the 20th, what perfidy will they do and how will Joe prevent it when the DOD and Capitol Police are working with the seditionists traitors?

[LymphocyteLover]

47. Apparently Trump WH officials *were in contact with rioters*

Link to tweet

[NHvet]

50. Only in my wildest dreams

Could I have thought my fellow countrymen where capable of this. These are acts banana republics are born from.

[Jon King]

51. Fox News is so screwed...

They can't even cover stuff like this that fascinates the audience any more. They are pretending this attack on the Capitol never happened and the pandemic is not happening. Their hard cores have left for Newsmax and OAN. Anyone left watching the news has to go to CNN or MSNBC to even see the invasion or pandemic discussed.

Fox News did a segment today on "how to make at home learning fun" while CNN had extensive coverage of the attempted take over of the government. When your core demographic is 50-75 years old....I doubt they care about at home learning!! My guess is Fox ratings are in the trash in another few months.

[BobTheSubgenius]

56. Find them. Lock them up.

Forget them, except for making it impossible for them to ever get a decent job again.

[Stuart G]

58. Guess who is good at finding ..."INSIDE JOBS"...you guessed it...the FBI.....

...The FBI and the Secret Service will figure this out. FBI in particular because they have done so in the past...
And where ever it leads, they will find them....Of course, there are those who created this "coup attempt" that are totally sure that they...."won't be caught"

....Those clowns will be caught just because they are ..."so sure that they won't be caught" Long time investigators love to catch those types...Some long ago murders are solved years after they happened.
FBI will catch whoever created this, and if it is Trump, the FBI will catch him and charge him too. The long
time experts in all police forces love this kind of work, because the crooks are so sure that they can get
away with it, that there is certain special pleasure in getting those kind of crooks.. The FBI catches these people
red handed with ....proof because these morons are so sure that they will escape....

..........Oh, and this isn't some idea I just came up with...It is what happens over time because that is what
happens ....over time... Why?...little, very tiny mistakes are made by crooks, and guess who is
expert at finding them and following up on those "mistakes"...?? And you know who that is...It's the FBI.

[Lokee11]

60. Knowing that -

Most of those fuckers probably can’t read anyway - this might not be as bad as it actually seems -

✊🏼FDT!

[TryLogic]

70. Clearly a planned attack with inside connections.

[intrepidity]

71. Image of tweet

[sarcasmo]

75. Insurrection participants knew where Pelosi's office was and Clyburn. Inside job.

[Arne]

76. Man o Man,

I step out for a while to run some errands and all hell breaks out.
It is unbelievable what is being reported and surmised.
These rats better be caught quickly.

[Cha]

79. oh yeah! Rt TY

[Delphinus]

80. This is frightening.

How far inside does the treason go?

[Joinfortmill]

82. Seditionists

[BumRushDaShow]

87. Heard Joe Madison's interview of Clyburn live

and he also had Maxine Waters on later too, near the end of his show - https://www.siriusxm.com/clips/clip/0469a9b1-fd7d-4257-ab28-f76acc8fa2aa/20092be7-aba0-4ea4-a405-af3f96455773

[DFW]

88. Only two realistic possibilities, and not mutually exclusive:

1.) Someone of the Capitol Police directed them

2.) A Republican member of the House directed them

(or both)

[ancianita]

90. ALL offices must be reshuffled, not just Clyburn's. Placed nearer to exit tunnels

and away from Statuary Hall.

It's safer to take the long way to chambers than the easy way.

Knowing that the Architectural Office's capitol layout map has been leaked, a whole bigger level of ARMED guarding must be permanent.