Pelosi should not attend the inauguration

[jO456]

Who else thinks the third in line of succession with out a cabinet in place, should be in a secure safe location on 1/20?

[drray23]

1. probably a good idea.

not to quibble buy she is 2nd in sucession behind VP who is first.

[LisaL]

4. I am assuming VP has to attend the inaguration.

NT

[SCantiGOP]

8. They both just have to take the oath

They don’t have to be in the same location.
I would hate the optics of that. We had inaugurations during WW2 and the Civil War.

[BrightKnight]

21. They could quietly take it before the ceremony.

Record it and delete the recording after the public event.

[Midnightwalk]

10. I think the only requirement is they take the oath of office

From the Wikipedia machine

Recitation of the presidential oath of office is the only component in this ceremony mandated by the United States Constitution (in Article II, Section One, Clause 8). Though it is not a constitutional requirement, the chief justice typically administers the presidential oath of office

[wnylib]

97. Yes, the only requirement is that

they take the oath. Who can forget the photo of Lyndon Johnson taking the oath inside Air Force 1, with Jackie standing beside him in her blood-stained suit? It was administered by a federal judge.

[NotHardly]

28. Designated Survivor ... for real this time. We cannot have everyone at risk @same place

[trueblue2007]

31. MY GOD, your post is so sad. truth hurts and i'm crying for our nation.

I AM SO TIRED OF TRUMP TYRANNY AND LIES AND FILTH AND EVIL. I want him gone. Send him AND HIS ILK to the moon!!!

[elleng]

38. true

[crickets]

109. Agreed. Sad time we live in. nt

[DownriverDem]

90. Since trump

said he's leaving on Jan 19th, I think Biden/Harris should take their oaths in the White House. The Secrete Service, Capitol Police, area National Guard Troops and all the Military should ring the city.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Good point. . . . nt

[samnsara]

3. im thinking that as well

[MontanaMama]

5. I hope they hold the inauguration indoors

with armed guards. Can they do that? Biden and Harris are targets if you believe RW social media...and I think we have to take all of that seriously at this point.

[Bayard]

7. This

Just swear them in in the Oval Office.

[Deuxcents]

15. Will they be able

To sanitize the Oval Office in time? Seems not a healthy White House with all those maskless people coming in n out.

[bdamomma]

48. How about

in the Supreme Court?

In should not be in the open, these domestic terrorists will do anything.

I read that anyone who breaches the area will be shot dead. I can't remember if I read that on a thread here.

[FakeNoose]

58. I like your idea

I was kicking around the idea of having it in a large church, such as the National Cathedral. But you know the old issue of separation of church and state.

So I hope they keep it indoors with few attendees by invitation only. Show it on TV, just like always. All attendees go through a metal detector and show an ID badge, everyone wears a mask. No exceptions.

The Supreme Court chamber would be perfect!

[scarletwoman]

69. Excellent idea.

[scarletwoman]

67. They won't have access to the Oval Office until AFTER they are sworn in.

Until they've officially taken their oaths of office, the White House still belongs to the current administration.

[renate]

95. I thought I remembered a discussion of whether Obama became president during Yo-Yo Ma's performance

I couldn't find anything on that, but it turns out that it was lip-synched! Cello-synched anyway:

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99816993

But anyway--I remember watching and seeing the clock on the cable box go to 12:00 while Ma was still playing, and hearing people afterwards saying that Obama officially became president at that moment even before the oath of office. Does anyone else remember that?

[StarfishSaver]

101. They get access at noon when Biden becomes president, regardless whether they take the oath

[scarletwoman]

108. Oh well, if that's the case, cool! Do the swearing in there!

Thanks, that cheers me up.

[Cosmocat]

105. At this point YES

nm

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Agree.

A tightly held event with few attendees, shared virtually.

[BannonsLiver]

17. Reagan's second inauguration was held indoors

If I recall it was because it was like -20 windchill outside, or something.

[smirkymonkey]

110. Whose bright idea was it to hold the inauguration ceremony outside in the middle of

January in the first place? I understand that they can not pack in the thousands of civilian viewers into many indoor venues, but just broadcast it to them from a safer, secure location. Most people can't actually see or hear what is going on without audio and video amplification, even if they are right there at the site.

[thucythucy]

111. The inauguration was originally held in March.

This made sense in an era of horse drawn carriages, no interstate roads, when most travel between states was done in sail ships.

Franklin Roosevelt decided that an almost six month delay between election and inauguration made no sense in the 20th century, so he moved the inauguration up to January.

The timing for national elections was also an 18th century decision. November was chosen because by then most crops would be harvested and farmers would be able to take the time needed (sometimes a day or more) to get to the polls.

Most democracies schedule their elections taking into account that farmers are no longer the overwhelming majority of the electorate, and we now have internal combustion engines and highways to help with travel.

[smirkymonkey]

112. Interesting bit of history. Makes a lot of sense, or at least it did back then.

I wonder if we would ever change the cycle to a time of year that isn't too hot or too cold for most places to encourage getting out to vote and having the inauguration ceremony during a milder time of year in DC. Or better yet, shortening the period between certification and inauguration. Not to mention getting rid of the Electoral College.

Well, that's my wish list. I won't hold my breath.

[David__77]

32. I agree with that.

It can be "softened" through video production and inclusion of people remotely.

[ailsagirl]

34. That or the Oval Office

And make SURE entire WH is swept (?) for bombs. Also fumigate/sanitize every inch of the place.

They can’t be too careful!

[elleng]

40. ditto

[DENVERPOPS]

63. I think they should tell every one where it is going to be held,

and then hold it at some secret location far removed..........or hold it in the middle of a large military base with a few thousand armed infantry standing around........Now THAT would be fun to watch.........

[gldstwmn]

72. Exactly.

[RexLipton]

77. It would be like

Biden getting the military parade that tRump so desperately wanted!

[Kitchari]

86. Good idea!

We need all possible precautions to make it safe

[haele]

107. Washington Navy Yard is just down the way.

They can hold it there.

Haele

[lark]

6. I really hope she stays in a safe secured location!

The traitors will be out in force trying to overturn the government and kill Biden/Harris and I'm sure Pelosi is on the list as well. I am so worried about this date when the traitorous/seditionists in Capitol Police and DOD and Pentagon are still in place and probably have input into this. Just like they knew where Clyburn was working, even though there was no name on the door, they will know the back ways to get to the new government officials. They were all hired by the traitor because of their traitorousness and willingness to embrace right wing extremism.

This is a really sad/bad time!

[bucolic_frolic]

33. Sadists enjoy

telegraphing their intentions. Was this week a deliberate screw up? They had lots of details and all the people they needed.

[ancianita]

59. Yes.

And given the reality of who has access to the architectural map of the capitol layout, everyone should move their offices, not just Clyburn.

Small precautions can greatly improve safety, even slow or block those who try to seek out Democratic offices.

[Lunabell]

9. Play it safe, Speaker Pelosi!!

We need you.

[secondwind]

11. I agree.

[unblock]

13. Good point. Next in line would be grassley as senate president pro tempore

[grantcart]

35. Incorrect. President Pro Tempore comes from the majority party

Following tradition that will be Patrick Leahy (who previously served as PPT) although there is nothing in the rules that would prohibit another Senator, like Warren, being elected to that position.

We should assume the majority in the morning of 1/20.

[unblock]

36. We don't have a majority without the Georgia senators sworn in *and* Harris to break the tie

That won't happen until after noon on the 20th at best.

During the inauguration itself, grassley will still be president pro tempore

[grantcart]

80. No known facts support your opinion that they will not be sworn in prior to the inauguation

Other Senators were sworn in on Jan 3rd

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/senate-stories/when-a-new-congress-begins.htm

GA Senators will be sworn in as soon as they are certified (the swearing in is actually a formality Perdue and Loeffler will lose their seat privileges the minute their successors are certified by the GA Secretary of State. At that moment the Democrats will be the majority party.

"At best" that can be done any day that the counties certify which could be done at any time but must be done by 1/15, at worst on Jan 22nd, although all indicators are that it will be done days prior to the Inauguration.

Raffensberger has to wait until all 159 counties have finished their official count and county certification.

That must be done by January 15th. After that Raffensberger must certify within 17 days by Jan 22nd.

Raffensberger has already announced that he will certify the two GA Senators prior to the Inauguration.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/raffensperger-georgia-senate-election-confirmation/index.html

"We will get that done as soon as we can," Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Thursday, noting he intends to wrap up by Inauguration Day.

While it is possible Raffensperger is lying I think that we should take him at his word in regards to vote certification given his recent past history. He didn't give an exact date and time but having made a promise to get it "done as soon as we can" should mean that shortly after 1/15 the results will be certified and the Democrats will be the majority party.

There are no facts that indicate that it will not be completed prior to the Inauguration although it is theoretically possible if Raffensperger turns on his present publicly stated position to "get that done as soon as we can".

[unblock]

85. Good to hear the senators should be sworn in by then but my main point

was that even then we need Kamala Harris sworn in, which won't happen until noon on 1/20.

Even then, I presume there would be a vote in the afternoon for the new president pro tempore. Until then, it's grassley.

[SheltieLover]

14. Absolutely!

[Politicalgolfer]

16. Was thinking the same thing a few hours ago

....or VP Harris in an undisclosed location! Who knows what weaponry these scum or their foreign friends have available to them😡

[WA-03 Democrat]

18. Mrs. Speaker

Should spend the day enjoying her family rather then going. She got it Biden’s votes to pass while under attack from domestic terrorists supported and planned by the executive branch. She made it through the day with 120+ republican house jack asses till 4am to get the count cert. done for the house. During the attack she worked with Republicans senators and I would argue lead them to get back to vote. Nancy said no one is safe from the manic and do you job of getting Biden in. She has been working so hard and at such a high level. She is an inspiration to me. Her timing is so graceful. She can heard cats while under attack and is made of metal.

The real work starts very soon but we have won power to clean up the mess left again.

[abakan]

93. I'm sorry but I have to steal this, if you don't mind.

She can heard cats while under attack and is made of metal.

[WA-03 Democrat]

96. Thanks

Yes, please do so! She’s cooler than ice cold

[BrightKnight]

19. IDK, Biden's business as usual point was strong but

It is very normal to limit the number of the people in the chain at events like that.

[Cousin Dupree]

20. Try to stop her. She'll be there with bells on

[BGBD]

22. Screw that

We aren't going to let these fools keep us from doing what we have always done.

Remember, this group should have been easily dealt with and if they try to do something during the inauguration they will be.

We need to show strength and go after these people, not hide and hope they go away.

[Lokee11]

29. +1

FDT!

[RussBLib]

23. I don't think ANYONE should attend the Inauguration

especially Biden, Harris, Clinton, etc.

forget the pomp, just do the circumstance

oh yeah, a friend of mine who was planning to attend was discouraged from going by her travel agent. she has cancelled.

[FreepFryer]

43. Posting that photo is a decision. Not the one I would have made but u do u. (Nt)

[WA-03 Democrat]

79. +1

[FailureToCommunicate]

98. I can see your point.

[FreepFryer]

99. Wow it was really thoughtful of you to reconsider, I really do offer my thanks.

Peace.

[FailureToCommunicate]

102. No, thank you. And I **should** cut back on the caffeine.

[FreepFryer]

104. Goals are good but in a foxhole one needs ones simple reassurances - 2nd carafe is on here :)

[Tommymac]

25. I think they should move it to The Lincoln Memorial.

Kind of a compromise. I think it would be a much easier location to secure.

And it would send a HUGE message.

Inaugurate Joe at the feet of our greatest President.

On the same steps Rev King spoke. With John Lewis at his side.

[Mr.Bill]

26. The entire inauguration

should be at a safe secure location. The principals involved should all be hidden right now.

[soldierant]

46. Bingo.

Of course, that may become even more obvious before the 20th.

[Mr.Bill]

53. If I was a governor, I would be surrounding my capitol building with razor wire and

National Guard troops at every door and window with automatic weapons and orders to shoot to kill. Bring it on, assholes.

[gldstwmn]

60. Agree. We are talking about people

who are 70-80 years old with the exception of Harris. They need to be kept safe and sound. Maybe the should be inaugurated on a base or Camp David.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

27. Good thinking.

[TNNurse]

30. Designated Survivor

The inauguration should take place in a secure undisclosed location. They can film it and show us when it is over.

[Liberty Belle]

37. Secret Service should insist the live inauguration be cancelled to protect Biden and others.

Biden and Harris should be sworn in at separate undisclosed locations at the earliest hour allowed. Pelosi should be elsewhere.

It can be tape-delayed and broadcast later. Get Biden in control of the military, Joint Chiefs, National Guard, FBI and other security forces as early in the day as allowed. Can they do it at 12:01 am? Then order in all the forces to arrest everyone who shows up armed and announce that the inauguration is cancelled, it's already been done.

Remember that Lyndon Johnson was sworn in on a plane, as I recall, after JFK was assassinated. It does not have to be a public ceremony.

[malaise]

39. I think the entire inauguration should be held in secret

and showed on a delayed broadcast

[Jim__]

41. And the fact that she's not attending should be widely publicized.

[yaesu]

42. Since security will still be in the hands of the tRump administration I would agree with that nt

[greenjar_01]

44. Honestly, if we can't secure the Inauguration, we should defund everything

[HubertHeaver]

45. The inauguration should be held at a secure, undisclosed location

It can be held anywhere and broadcast nationwide in realtime.

[Amaryllis]

50. This.

[left-of-center2012]

47. She will be there

We need to show strength

[Amaryllis]

49. THey should have it inside...

[brooklynite]

51. Absolutely disagree

If you saw my previous post, Inauguration security is a world of difference from what we saw this week. And we need to re-establish normality.

In any event, you better take this up with President-elect Biden. He won’t be hiding.

[cwydro]

54. This.

Besides she’d never act like she was afraid to be at an event like this one.

And I’m sure she’s not.

[StarfishSaver]

106. Exactly

An Inauguration is an official "National Security Event" with the absolute highest level of security - nothing like we saw the other day.

[appmanga]

52. No. The Speaker, the VP-Elect...

...and all others who would normally be at the inauguration should be there. To not be there is to give in to the intimidation of the seditionists. This country have the resources and assets to make this inauguration as safe as any of those in the past. The insurrectionists should not be sent any signal that they are feared or they can impose fear on our elected officials.

[gldstwmn]

55. They should do it from a secured location.

These are extraordinary circumstances.

[bdamomma]

81. and extraordinary times

just for this time. For safety measures.

[ancianita]

56. Agree.

[Texin]

57. Frankly, I think they all should. Biden and Harris should be sworn in in private.

Whether it takes place in that basement congressional chamber or virtually, I don't think this should be a public event. With vows to continue their insurgent protests in the days leading up to the Inauguration, it's a danger to every attendee or the people gathered to see it. And something that I haven't seen discussed (but I'm sure it's out there), you have to know that tRump will try to upstage it himself by digging in at the WH and refuse to leave, and whatever it takes to forcibly remove him will be a spectacle in and of itself.

[gldstwmn]

65. When he didn't leave this weekend I knew

he had no intent of leaving. This is going to be bad and should not be taken lightly. They might have to arrest him.

[JDC]

61. Disagree. She should be there front and center

To show those cowards that she is for America and Democracy and will not bow down to scare tactics.

[gldstwmn]

70. Trump isn't attending the inauguration

because he wants plausible deniability for whatever type of crime he is going to try to perpetrate there.

[Rebl2]

62. I think they

should take their oath at the Supreme Court and have no ceremony outdoors. Take the oath and get to work.

[Bluethroughu]

64. 1000% guard her!

And keep it need to know where she is located. There is proof we have compromised cops.

[blueinredohio]

66. And Biden should never have announced

he was taking the train to the inauguration.

[gldstwmn]

73. I would be very surprised if that still

happens. Maybe he can do it for his second term.

[NoMoreRepugs]

68. The United States is not today what it once was - all precautions that

are deemed necessary by the INCOMING Administration are what should be followed.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

71. The west front of the U.S. Capitol will rank among the most secure places on the planet on

January 20, 2021.

[JGug1]

74. Pelosi Attend?

If we can't keep our President and Vice President and Speaker safe it's time to close the door on this nation. NO, I don't think she should avoid going. I DO think there should be EXCESSIVE caution exibited.
JG

[bdamomma]

75. If anyone wants to send

an e-mail to Speaker Pelosi regarding your concerns. I just did.


https://www.speaker.gov/

[sandensea]

76. And the inaugural should be in the Capitol Rotunda

Nothing outdoors please - no matter how tight the security.

These people are relentless.

[patphil]

87. I'm thinking the same thing. Hold it there to show the radical right they can't just shut us down.

This would be a good way to give the good, honest, real patriots of our country a opportunity to see that the government will carry on, regardless of what went on in the Capitol on January 6th.

[sandensea]

91. Good point. It would be a way to 'cleanse' the Rotunda of Wednesday's obscenity as well.

Let's finish the job New Jersey Congressman Andy Kim started.

[patphil]

92. Andy Kim is a true American Hero.

[sandensea]

94. Amid the madness, he showed us the way

Do what you can, no matter how important your position.

[Ohioboy]

78. Good idea

Why take chances? The people that would want to hurt her are crazy.

[Turin_C3PO]

82. Up to her.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows up and that’s absolutely her right.

[jmowreader]

83. The inauguration should not be in DC

Also, nothing says the president-elect and vice president-elect have to be in the same place.

My suggestion is for President Biden to take Chief Justice Roberts to Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, and swear the oath in the base commander's office. Vice President Harris should take either Justice Kagan or Justice Sotomayor to Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA, and swear the oath in the base commander's office. This way the deplorables can go to DC and get arrested and our leaders will be safe because they will be thousands of miles away.

[catrose]

84. We're doing so much of it virtual, so I don't see why any of the line of succession

Have to be in one place. I'm not sure if there's a requirement for who swears in the VP. If not, Kagan or Sotomayor and Harris could be in a different location. If Roberts has to administer the oath, they could take him by helicopter from the president to the vp while they show a montage of her accomplishments or the administration's platform. And Pelosi should be sipping champagne in a safe house in an undisclosed location.

And we don't need to know that's what happening. They could even use the same room background for both, and a different room than they're actually in.

It's not paranoia when they are out to get you.

[Joinfortmill]

88. You may be right.

[Buckeyeblue]

89. I think the secret service will have the place very secure.

[StarfishSaver]

100. She's got good sense, excellent security and superior intelligence we don't have

She'll make the decision that's right for her and the situation.

[haele]

103. She should be kicked back in a nice quiet b&b with a glass of Chardonnay

Resting up for the next round of work with a new Senate and administration.

Everyone needs a little down time.

Haele

[BlueWavePsych]

113. Hmmm. Must weed out all the 'inside job' collusion.