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Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:37 PM

A woman WAS PUT IN FB jail for posting this. i have no doubt, it is TRUE Long read

Facebook took this post from Heather Cox Richardson down yesterday. So, here it is. Guess some people just can't handle the Truth:
January 8, 2021
Heather Cox Richardson

More information continues to emerge about the events of Wednesday. They point to a broader conspiracy than it first appeared. Calls for Trump’s removal from office are growing. The Republican Party is tearing apart. Power in the nation is shifting almost by the minute.
[Please note that information from the January 6 riot is changing almost hourly, and it is virtually certain that something I have written will be incorrect. I have tried to stay exactly on what we know to be facts, but those could change.]

More footage from inside the attack on the Capitol is coming out and it is horrific. Blood on statues and feces spread through the building are vile; mob attacks on police officers are bone-chilling.

Reuters photographer Jim Bourg, who was inside the building, told reporters he overheard three rioters in “Make America Great Again” caps plotting to find Vice President Mike Pence and hang him as a “traitor”; other insurrectionists were shouting the same. Pictures have emerged of one of the rioters in military gear carrying flex cuffs—handcuffs made of zip ties—suggesting he was planning to take prisoners. Two lawmakers have suggested the rioters knew how to find obscure offices.

New scrutiny of Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally before the attack shows Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Representative Mo Brooks (R-AL), Don Jr., and Trump himself urging the crowd to go to the Capitol and fight. Trump warned that Pence was not doing what he needed to. Trump promised to lead them to the Capitol himself.

There are also questions about law enforcement. While exactly what happened remains unclear, it has emerged that the Pentagon limited the Washington D.C. National Guard to managing traffic. D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser requested support before Trump’s rally, but the Department of Defense said that the National Guard could not have ammunition or riot gear, interact with protesters except in self-defense, or otherwise function in a protective capacity without the explicit permission of acting Secretary Christopher Miller, whom Trump put into office shortly after the election after firing Defense Secretary Mark Esper.
When Capitol Police requested aid early Wednesday afternoon, the request was denied. Defense officials held back the National Guard for about three hours before sending it to support the Capitol Police. Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, tried repeatedly to send his state’s National Guard, but the Pentagon would not authorize it. Virginia’s National Guard was mobilized when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called the governor, Ralph Northam, herself.
Defense officials said they were sensitive to the criticism they received in June when federal troops cleared Lafayette Square of peaceful protesters so Trump could walk across it. But it sounds like there might be a personal angle: Bowser was harshly critical of Trump then, and it would be like him to take revenge on her by denying help when it was imperative.

Refusing to stop the attack on the Capitol might have been more nefarious, though. A White House adviser told New York Magazine’s Washington correspondent Olivia Nuzzi that Trump was watching television coverage of the siege and was enthusiastic, although he didn’t like that the rioters looked “low class.” While the insurrectionists were in the Capitol, he tweeted: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!” Even as lawmakers were under siege, both Trump and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani were making phone calls to brand-new Senator Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) urging him to slow down the electoral count.

After Trump on Wednesday night tweeted that there would be an “orderly” transition of power, on Thursday he began again to urge on his supporters.
With the details and the potential depth of this event becoming clearer over the past two days—Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s wife, Virginia, tweeted her support, and state lawmakers as well as Republican attorneys general were actually involved—Americans are recoiling from how bad this attempted coup was… and how much worse it could have been. The crazed rioters were terrifyingly close to our elected representatives, all gathered together on that special day, and they were actively talking about harming the vice president.
By Friday night, 57% of Americans told Reuters they wanted Trump removed from office immediately. Nearly 70% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s actions before the riot. Only 12% of Americans approved of the rioters; 79% of Americans described the rioters as “criminals” or “fools.” Five percent called them “patriots.”

Pelosi tonight said that she hoped the president would resign, but if not, the House of Representatives will move forward with impeachment on Monday, as well as with legislation to enable Congress to remove Trump under the 25th Amendment. The most recent draft of the impeachment resolution has just one article: “incitement of insurrection.” As a privileged resolution, it can go directly to the House without committee approval.
In the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has no interest in further splitting the Republicans over another impeachment, or forcing them onto the record as either for or against it. Timing is on his side: the Senate is not in session for substantive business until January 19, so cannot act on an impeachment resolution without the approval of all senators. It can take up the resolution then, but more likely it will wait until Biden is sworn in, at which point the measure would be managed not by McConnell, but by the new House majority leader, Chuck Schumer (D-NY). A trial can indeed take place after Trump is no longer president, enabling Congress to make sure he can never again hold office.

Whether or not the Senate would convict is unclear, but it’s not impossible. Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), for one, is so furious she is talking of switching parties. “I want him out,” she says. Still, Trump supporters are now insisting that it would “further divide the country” to try to remove Trump now, and that we need to unify. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), who led the Senate effort to challenge Biden’s election, today tweeted that Biden was not working hard enough to “bring us together or promote healing” and that “vicious partisan rhetoric only tears our country apart.”
Trump, meanwhile, has continued to agitate his followers, and today began to call for more resistance, while users on Parler, the new right-wing social media hangout, are talking of another, bigger attack on Washington.

Tonight, Twitter banned Trump, stating: “we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.” As evidence, it cited both his claim that his supporters would “have a GIANT VOICE long into the future,” and his tweet that he would not be going to Biden’s inauguration on January 20. Twitter says that Trump’s followers see these two new tweets as proof that the election was invalid and that the Inauguration is a good target, since he won’t be there. The Twitter moderators say that “plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.”
Twitter also took down popular QAnon accounts, including those of Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and his former lawyer Sidney Powell, who is having quite a bad day: the company that makes election machines, Dominion Voting Systems, announced it is suing her for defamation and asking $1.3 billion in damages. After taking down 7,000 QAnon accounts in July, Twitter continued by today taking down the account of the man who hosts the posts from “Q.”

While Twitter officials might well be horrified by the insurrection, the ban is also a sign of a changing government. With the election of two Democratic senators from Georgia this week, the majority goes to the Democrats, and McConnell will no longer be Majority Leader, killing bills. Social media giants know regulation of some sort is around the corner, and they are trying to look compliant fast. When Twitter banned Trump, so did Reddit, and Facebook and Instagram already had. Google Play Store removed Parler, warning it to clean up its content moderation.

Trump evidently couldn’t stand the Twitter ban, and tried at least five different accounts to get back onto the platform. He and his supporters are howling that he is being silenced by big tech, but of course he has an entire press corps he could use whenever he wished. Losing his access to Twitter simply cuts off his ability to drum up both support and money by lying to his supporters. Another platform that has dumped Trump is one of those that handled his emails. The San Francisco correspondent of the Financial Times, Dave Lee, noted that for more than 48 hours there had been no Trump emails: in the previous six days the president sent out 33.

This has been a horrific week. If it has a silver lining, it is that the lines are now clear between our democracy and its enemies. The election in Georgia, which swung the Senate away from the Republicans and opens up some avenues to slow down misinformation, is a momentous victory.


~~~~~~~~~~> I say that "MY FRIEND "TRACY" A great Democratic woman said about the poster.
"Tracy" went on to say [the POST .. made by her friend ] ..... She said it was being held in FB jail due to being "reported" but that it would likely be put back up pending review. I have no CLUE as to why it would have been deleted in the first place as she is very good with checking all of her work. She is a professional.

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Reply A woman WAS PUT IN FB jail for posting this. i have no doubt, it is TRUE Long read (Original post)
trueblue2007 Jan 2021 OP
Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #1
Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #38
uppityperson Jan 2021 #2
trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #4
trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #15
TomDaisy Jan 2021 #3
twin_ghost Jan 2021 #5
Bev54 Jan 2021 #7
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #8
trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #13
we can do it Jan 2021 #43
AmericanCanuck Jan 2021 #19
dware Jan 2021 #23
Tommymac Jan 2021 #24
Cha Jan 2021 #34
we can do it Jan 2021 #42
IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #44
Bev54 Jan 2021 #6
chowder66 Jan 2021 #21
HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #35
Bev54 Jan 2021 #39
HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #40
central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #9
samnsara Jan 2021 #10
trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #18
CatWoman Jan 2021 #37
BainsBane Jan 2021 #11
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2021 #12
LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #14
AmericanCanuck Jan 2021 #20
JI7 Jan 2021 #29
BainsBane Jan 2021 #27
JI7 Jan 2021 #31
Beringia Jan 2021 #16
GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #17
Traildogbob Jan 2021 #22
GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #41
SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #25
xxqqqzme Jan 2021 #26
TNNurse Jan 2021 #28
catchnrelease Jan 2021 #36
patphil Jan 2021 #30
diane in sf Jan 2021 #32
BainsBane Jan 2021 #33

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:40 PM

1. Heather is not in FB jail. That one post is.

She said it has happened before and the post gets out back up.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:57 PM

38. There is nothing wrong with that post.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:42 PM

2. She's not in Facebook jail

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:44 PM

4. oh sorry.... i misunderstood

Facebook took this post from Heather Cox Richardson down yesterday. So, here it is. Guess some people just can't handle the Truth:
January 8, 2021
Heather Cox Richardson

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:15 PM

15. thank goodness she didn't get in trouble. her post needs to be read. I AM IN FB JAIL for 8 more hrs

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:43 PM

3. bookmark

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:47 PM

5. Why is this posted here?

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:50 PM

7. Why not?

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:52 PM

8. What is the problem with it?

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:12 PM

13. Do YOU have a problem with me? I have been a Dem for over 50 year !!!!

I was a child who saw my hero JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY murdered. I have more Dem in my little finger than maybe your whole body. I LOVE MY CITY, STATE, COUNTRY AND WORLD with all my heart and soul.

This needs to be posted.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:46 AM

43. Thank you.

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:19 PM

19. This is the correct forum to post this.

 

The narrative is factual and needs to be spread far and wide.

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 06:56 PM

23. Why wouldn't it be? nt

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:01 PM

24. Um, because DU posts THE TRUTH?

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:12 PM

34. Please tell us what you think is

wrong with it?

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:46 AM

42. Why not? Low post know it all.

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Response to twin_ghost (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

44. Never mind folks. Just another drive by from a want-to-be DU moderator.

Must be an English teacher.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:48 PM

6. How about the US congress bring the country together

by solidly and standing together to impeach this asshole. That would be a start.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 06:49 PM

21. +1

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:36 PM

35. I hope you mean REPUBLICANS in the U S Congress....

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 08:07 PM

39. Yes, you know I am talking about republicans

they say they want to move on and heal the country, well that would be a start and then after the dems can investigate those in the republican congress assisted Trump with his coup and have them arrested and tried. I think sunlight to all of this will help heal the country.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 08:09 PM

40. sounds like a plan...



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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:53 PM

9. A really good point in there:

Drumpf has NOT been silenced. He can call a press conference anytime and make his points. But it’s tougher to grift that way.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:54 PM

10. fb temp suspended the acct of a friend of mine for posting too many dog rescue stories...

...go figure....

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Response to samnsara (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:16 PM

18. OH NO!!!!!!!! FB will prob can me because I AM A PROUD. CRAZY CAT WOMAN. LOL LOL

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:49 PM

37. LOL!!!!

that's hilarious

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:05 PM

11. I'm surprised she doesn't know that congress doesn't invoke the 25th Amendment

considering she has a PhD in history and posts widely. That's pretty basic.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:08 PM

12. She's referring to proposed legislation

that would allow Congress to enact the 25th Amendment. It doesn't sound like she is claiming that Congress currently has that power though

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:12 PM

14. Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:22 PM

20. Congress should include former cabinet members

 

I am sure Gens. Mattis, Kelly, McMaster and Rex Tillerson would have voted to remove Trump.

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Response to AmericanCanuck (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:06 PM

29. I think those tried to earlier on but Haley rejected it

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:05 PM

27. but without the cooperation of the VP

and the cabinet, it goes no where.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:08 PM

31. Pence will go along with it if the cabinet members get together

and all he has to do is support them . But he is too weak and cowardly to actually contact them and get the numbers he needs.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:15 PM

16. Thanks

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 05:16 PM

17. The post is back up.

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Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 06:54 PM

22. Saw Jr

Post a video of himself ranting about Twitter and free speech praising the terrorists and daddy, with that coke Addled smirk on his mug. I really hope this destroys everything Trump forever. Sorry Barron, you should step Away and speak out. Like Ron Reagan Jr. He saved his rep.
Deport the whole fucking bunch.
Let em golf and party with the scum they stirred up.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:54 AM

41. Tough to golf with shackles.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:03 PM

25. Trying to unify? Certainly didn't seem that way earlier Wednesday...

Trump supporters are now insisting that it would “further divide the country” to try to remove Trump now, and that we need to unify.

An overwhelming number of Americans didn't support your attempt to overthrow our normal governmental processes to the sidelines, thus ignoring long established routines for the continuance of government. As a matter of fact, listening to any trump supporter now is now worthless to me, as their act of insubordination against this Country was clearly shown to all Wednesday, that mob, which contained elected republican officials too.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:04 PM

26. I read

Heather Cox Richardson's January 8, 2021 piece on FB but it was posted by Bill Moyer's on his page. I think on Thursday Moyer's and Richardson were working in tandem.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:06 PM

28. Google her, we get her posts in email every morning.

It is essential reading. She uses sources.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:45 PM

36. I second this n/t

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:07 PM

30. From everything I have seen and readin the last few days, that was fair and accurate reporting.

It was something a lot of network news shows would be proud of.
It shouldn't have been taken down.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:09 PM

32. I just got put in FB jail for three days for showing the flyer for the planned Jan 17 insurrection,

which I found here on DU. I did it as a warning to people. But FB took it as an incitement. They are short on people and relying on their faulty algorithms. The algorithms did not understand the explanatory text I put over the image.

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Response to diane in sf (Reply #32)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:11 PM

33. It could be shared by Trumpsters in order to incite more violence

so I see FB's point.

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