CNN: Pence has not ruled out 25th amendment

[servermsh]

On CNN now....

Chyron:

Pence not ruling out 25th Amendment; Wants to preserve it in case Trump becomes more unstable.

[soothsayer]

1. They better put him in protective custody or something

[SoFlaBro]

2. Lil Mikey should shit or get off the pot

Enough waffling

[bluestarone]

5. MORE? MORE? MORE?

Give me a fucking break!

[BlueIdaho]

3. MORE unstable? Seriously Mike? Seriously?

[ProfessorGAC]

11. A Question For Mikey

Is there such a thing as MORE unstable?
Once someone has gone off the deep end, they've passed the point of going "more".
And, even if it could happen, isn't a " little" unstable too much for a POTUS?

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. Earth to Pence.....Trump is UNSTABLE!

Take your time, Mikey...Why hurry?

[DemoTex]

6. More unstable? MORE unstable? More UNSTABLE? MORE UNSTABLE?

Good Lord and Sonny Jesus!

[Mike Nelson]

7. I thought...

... it was ruled out... can't recall what source. It was a TV reporter.

(and, of course... Trump more unstable? Is that possible?)

[Proud liberal 80]

8. Hard to do when the people who would vote for it are resigning

And you are left with Pompeo and all the ‘acting’ minions

[DeminPennswoods]

43. It's not clear if the "acting" secretaries count or not

My guess is they don't, but we'll see what the WH lawyers say.

[Proud liberal 80]

9. Hard to do when the people who would vote for it are resigning

And you are left with Pompeo and all the ‘acting’ minions

[ecstatic]

10. Time is ticking. Is he waiting for the next trump death?

Pence should resign too.

[Thomas Hurt]

12. Attempting to have Pence whacked isn't unstable enough for him I guess?

[gldstwmn]

17. Right? That's taking turn the other cheek

to a whole other level.

[gldstwmn]

13. What is he waiting for?

Also did you see John Dean saying the GA senators will be seated as soon as their election is certified rendering Mitch incapable of stopping the impeachment? Can this happen prior to inauguration? I didn't catch the whole thing.

[Wednesdays]

31. Dems don't get the majority until Harris is sworn in.

Doesn't matter if Warnock and Ossoff are inducted.

[Grown2Hate]

48. Unfortunately, even with a 50/50 Senate, right NOW Pence breaks the tie, so it remains Majority

Leader Moscow Mitch until Jan 20th at noon.

[SergeStorms]

14. Just how much more "unstable"...

does he have to be, Q-tip?

If he suddenly becomes "more unstable" it'll already be too fucking late!

[Liberty Belle]

15. Tell Pence Trump is apt to pardon the dangerous insurrectionists who wanted to kill Pence,

Pelosi and others. If he doesn't invoke the 25th these would-be assassins will be free to try again and perhaps succeed.

Or go find Mother and persuade her to convince Pence, since she seems to be the only one he listens to or is fearful of.

[cbdo2007]

16. I'm guessing they have a set of rules he has to follow...

can't leave town, can't post on social media, can't call for more rioters, can't talk about the election, etc. Just like a parent dealing with a little kid.

[gldstwmn]

25. He's still doing almost all of that.

[malaise]

18. More unstable than sending people to hang him?

Looks like mother needs to slap some sense into Pence

[captain queeg]

19. I hope they have at least discussed it within the cabinet

And have agreed to act at some certain point. Not sure what they could agree on as over the line, but for instance trying to launch nuclear weapons would trigger immediate action. It’s a dangerous game they are playing with someone who is so obviously crazed.

[PA_jen]

20. What the actual F! He is unstable which makes him unfit. IF you don't remove you are in violation

of your oath and should be impeached as well.

[roamer65]

21. This means he has the needed number of cabinet secretaries.

He was stalling until he had it.

[Flaleftist]

22. How quickly can this be done if all necessary people are in agreement?

[Demsrule86]

23. If Pence was thinking clearly, he would realize the 25th was his best option. Trump sent

Y'all Qaeda to assassinate Pence. He is very vindictive Trump is and will not doubt encourage his followers to continue to harrass or even kill Mike Pence. A VP only gets one year of protection...but if he was president for a time...it would be lifetime protection which he may need.

[Paladin]

24. Pence doesn't have the guts. (nt)

[Groundhawg]

26. lets hope he comes to his senses,

[Buckeye_Democrat]

27. Just do it, Pence!

You got involved in the mess over 4 years ago, and now Trump's cult members want you dead regardless.

That's what you get for dealing with intolerant crazies with very strict "purity" rules... per their church leaders, Hannity, etc.

[Quixote1818]

28. LOL. So he's a lunatic but not that much of a lunatic? Jesus Christ! nt

[roamer65]

29. If Pence does it, remove the pension and perks from Trump and give them to Pence.

Congress will pass it and President Biden will sign it.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

32. Agreed. nt

[alittlelark]

33. He will also get lifetime SS. Given what T did to him it's a good choice.

Trumpanzees have a noose w/ his name on it.

[roamer65]

38. I want to see the Dumps with no government protection whatsoever.

Let them fend for themselves.

[JI7]

44. I would be ok with that but can that be done ?

[roamer65]

49. Congress can do it.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

51. If the Cabinet and Pence pull the trigger, then YES.

The House would then only need a simple majority (50%) to enact a "temporary" removal that lasts for 21 days... which would effectively be permanent with the inauguration of Biden/Harris happening in the interim.

The 2/3 vote is for permanent removal per the 25th, if that had been tried long ago.

[JI7]

53. I'm referring to the pension and other benefits

Can we take that away from Trump also and give it to Pence ?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

57. Oh... not sure.

It's something that I'd like to see happen, but I don't really know.

Sorry, I had overlooked to whom you were responding in this thread.

[alittlelark]

30. He might be saying it to push tRump to resign ASAP

To avoid impeachment or 25th - easiest option.

[roamer65]

35. THIS.

👍👍

[DeminPennswoods]

39. That's a possibility

He might be trying to box Trump in with no way to escape but to resign.

[Quixote1818]

34. Pence may not want to appear too "Eager" and quick to the trigger. If I were him I would be playing

it like he is so far, and then eventually pull the plug.

[Bobstandard]

36. Of course not!

It won’t be off the table until Biden is inaugurated. Until then, it’s a carrot he’s dangling to make it seem like he’s a responsible person. He supported Trump to tightly for too long for anybody to even suppose he might do the right thing

He still has Presidential ambitions. He won’t do anything more to antagonize Trumps base

[DrToast]

37. Republicans in Cogress should be pushing for this

Then they won't have to vote against him.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

41. Yep, I could see that.

It might be happening as we type. None of those cowards want to upset their voting base of nut jobs.

Some of them like Romney are more insulated from them, since he can rely on his own Mormon cult to keep him in office.

[Quixote1818]

45. That's a good point. Have to say, if I was a GOP Congressman, I would put pressure on that happening

nt

[DeminPennswoods]

40. This is a significant change in Pence's position

from just yesterday and earlier today. Maybe when Biden issued the invitation to Pence to attend Biden's inauguration, the two of them talked.

[old guy]

42. Total BS.

Pence has no intention of using the 25th. Just a deflection IMO.

[Quixote1818]

46. He would not bring it up as a deflection. He is either considering it or using it for leverage to

keep Trump at bay. As one poster above pointed out. It would let the GOP Congress off the hook because they are screwed either way. If they vote against it the moderate Dem they run against might beat them. If they vote for it then they get primaried. If he is taken out they have a clean slate.

[Vivienne235729]

47. HOW MUCH more unstable does he think he can get?!?!!! Jesus. Pull the trigger already.

[Grown2Hate]

50. "If he ACTUALLY nukes Philadelphia, we're going to have to certainly consider it maybe."

[LisaL]

54. That's what it sounds like to me also.

How unstable does Trump have to become for Pence to actually do it?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

56. Yeah, like General Turgidson in "Dr. Strangelove"...

... after he read a transcript from General Ripper who had managed to send off bombers with orders to drop nukes, with little hope of contacting or retrieving them.

----
President Merkin Muffley:
There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.

General "Buck" Turgidson:
We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.
----

[GeorgeGist]

52. When's the Big Reveal?

[Initech]

55. The guy literally incited a riot against Congress. Seriously what is it going to take?

[BlueStater]

58. He incited terrorists to fucking kill you, Mike.

Does he need to eat a baby on live television before you’ve finally had enough?