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Demovictory9

(36,353 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:11 AM Jan 2021

dailymail's peek into the life of the 'QAnon Shaman' (guy wearing the horns)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130409/QAnon-Shaman-33-year-old-failed-actor-lives-mom.html

‘QAnon Shaman’ is a 33-year-old failed actor who lives with his mom, spouts conspiracy theories about ‘FBI pedophile codes’ and roams the streets dressed in his bizarre horned outfit

Jacob Angeli Chansley is one of the MAGA rioters wanted by DC police for his part in storming the Capitol building on Wednesday
He was part of a Trump supporting mob, that also included Proud Boys and white supremacists, who broke into the building
DailyMail.com can reveal that Chansley has been living with his mother Martha, 56, since January 2019

He had been booted out of his $899-a-month apartment in Phoenix, Arizona, owing $1,247 in rent arrears

The 33-year-old has no job and, say neighbors, is often seen wandering the streets near her $199,000 Glendale home dressed in his horned shaman get-up



Chansley has repeatedly turned up to protests across Arizona, among them one in July where he filmed himself ranting that Covid-19 is a hoax

In September, he led a protest where he rambled about child abusers and claimed a spiral sign close to the bathrooms is actually ‘an FBI pedophile code’


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dailymail's peek into the life of the 'QAnon Shaman' (guy wearing the horns) (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2021 OP
Underscoring the need for better mental health support RealityCheque Jan 2021 #1
yeah.. and that Trump takes advantage of the mentally ill Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #3
Seen so many times over the past four years... RealityCheque Jan 2021 #6
Agreed, along w/the need for healthcare to be a basic right. n/t area51 Jan 2021 #15
Absolutely RealityCheque Jan 2021 #16
Yikes. I'll bet the neighbors are glad that nut will be out of circulation for a while. catbyte Jan 2021 #2
mom is probably glad too Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #4
She's complicit RealityCheque Jan 2021 #9
Who financed his travels? dalton99a Jan 2021 #5
The Save America fund? RealityCheque Jan 2021 #8
a lot of them made a long ass drive to DC... still costs money but not as much as flying Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #10
It often costs more to drive than fly. intheflow Jan 2021 #12
that's true.. Ginny Thomas bussed many in Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #14
He probably raided his poor mom's purse. This wasn't his only trip. I've seen him at those catbyte Jan 2021 #13
If you see him at many rallies..that requires significant funding Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #19
Alex Jones? RealityCheque Jan 2021 #17
funny how none of the people we saw in the riot videos is actually Antifa RAB910 Jan 2021 #7
One thing trump could learn from him: ret5hd Jan 2021 #11
Mental dis-ease, yes! sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #18

RealityCheque

(511 posts)
6. Seen so many times over the past four years...
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:23 AM
Jan 2021

Like the tear gassed woman who cried that she didn’t know why she was sprayed “because all I did was follow the crowd because I am a patriot”

catbyte

(37,136 posts)
2. Yikes. I'll bet the neighbors are glad that nut will be out of circulation for a while.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jan 2021

I'll just bet he'll love being called "a failed actor." Sounds like there are some mental issues going on, but, actually, all of them do.

Demovictory9

(36,353 posts)
10. a lot of them made a long ass drive to DC... still costs money but not as much as flying
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jan 2021

intheflow

(29,583 posts)
12. It often costs more to drive than fly.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:33 AM
Jan 2021

Hotels (need at least two nights driving from AZ to DC), food on road, gas. If he slept in his car, it would be less, but I seriously doubt this guy drove.

catbyte

(37,136 posts)
13. He probably raided his poor mom's purse. This wasn't his only trip. I've seen him at those
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:39 AM
Jan 2021

Nuremberg-Lite Hatefests all over the country in recent months. He really got around.

Freak.

RAB910

(4,029 posts)
7. funny how none of the people we saw in the riot videos is actually Antifa
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:23 AM
Jan 2021

they are all treasonous anti-American Trump supporters


On a sadder note when you read his life story he didn't start out as a bad person. The Trump, the GOP, Q, and the right-wing movement took him down a very dark road

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
18. Mental dis-ease, yes!
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jan 2021

Mental dis-ease is essentially universal. In more benign forms it has been called existential angst, samsara, the blues.
At the other end of the spectrum, mental dis-ease manifests behaviors that are beyond socially tolerable.

"Q-shaman" is an excellent demonstration of the dis-ease problem as explained in the Upanishads.
We almost all and always confuse our 'true-identity' (our constant-conscious-beingness) with all the wrappers of our desires and choices. Our chosen wardrobe (so to speak), is a cloak of many colors woven from our desires and experiences.

So wrapping the self, and identifying as alternative-nonfact identities results in crips and bloods, Democrats and Republicans, criminals and clergy.

What we think "I am" changes over time, youth, grown-up, mature, aged; What we think "marks me" changes, fashion, friends, opinions, desires. Changes can be slow as with aging or day-to-day fast typical of emotions (I'm so pissed off right now).

The human condition is to say, "I am...", my very existential identity is this label or that; male, female, fat, thin, pretty, homely, dull, smart, introvert, extrovert, right and you're not.

Curiously, no matter how crazy one may be, one never seems to identify as insentient.
I personally know my self as sentient and existent. All else is opinion.

I do have many labels that complete the sentence "I am...", and while the labels apply to me at moments in time, I try not to identify with the labels; they are not ME.
I was a child, I was a student, husband, father, son (both parents now dead), a bus driver, kitchen manger. I have had many roles (role-identity) but they come and go. I, the conscious center of my being, is constant and unchanging.

Dressing up is OK. It is encouraged. Variety is the spice of life and we are all other peoples entertainment.
Strutting around identifying our very existence with our ill-fitting costumes is mental illness.

The cure is knowing the "Self" that does not require any 'identities.'
That said, drugs may be needed sometimes.

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