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It happened because the Executive Branch has WAY too much unilateral power and controlled the security response to its own coup.
malaise
(295,742 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Biophilic
(6,535 posts)Under The Radar
(3,431 posts)The Department of Homeland Security is under authority of the executive branch. There has been no change in the leadership of the executive branch since Wednesday. Trump is still in charge of security for even Bidens inauguration up until the moment that he takes the oath.
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Captain Zero
(8,881 posts)they did not see the people they were programmed to kill but quite a pack of them around certain offices. Final visual trigger not sighted?
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cynical_idealist
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Hugin
(37,836 posts)Again, five! Yes, I am gaining confidence that even after my long isolation my thinky meat is still functional.
:whew:
thinky meat!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)From: What went wrong with security at the Capitol?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/what-went-wrong-security-capitol-n1253341
"I had conversations with the sergeant-at-arms and the chief of the Capitol Police, who gave me assurances that every precaution was being taken, that we had enough manpower, that we were going to keep people completely away from the Capitol," Ryan, the Ohio Democrat who chairs the subcommittee that funds the Capitol complex, told reporters Thursday.
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The Pentagon officials said that on Sunday, during a planning meeting, the Defense Department offered the Capitol Police and the city of Washington additional National Guard troops, but were turned down.
Said Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman, We were informed that additional support from DoD was not needed.
tblue37
(68,421 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)it is already too late.
justgamma
(3,693 posts)They've heard this crowd over and over for years. There had better be investigations. I know the heads have resigned but darn it we need answers!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)a complete investigation.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)and was delayed for HOURS, is under the control of the President.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Said Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman, We were informed that additional support from DoD was not needed.
pnwmom
(110,254 posts)and I believe HIM.
He says he was ready and willing to send Maryland Guard to DC, and after he got the call from Steny Hoyer, he tried and failed to get permission from the Trump administration -- for hours. And the Pentagon knew how urgent the situation was. Hogan told them.
And anyone watching TV could see that the Capitol police wasn't handling it.
Ohioboy
(3,891 posts)orangecrush
(30,158 posts)in2herbs
(4,380 posts)tblue37
(68,421 posts)state Guards.
AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)not fooled
(6,670 posts)a national security commentator on MSNBC (sorry, I can't remember his name but he is former military, maybe FBI, etc.) just said the "intelligence failure" stems from the inability of the FBI and other law enforcement to surveil domestic terrorist suspects and groups on e.g. facebook, twitter etc. whereas they can monitor international terrorists.
However, while he was speaking I remember all of the peace groups and other left-leaning organizations in the U.S. that have a long history of being infiltrated and monitored by law enforcement including FBI. So, what gives? Naturally the MSNBC host didn't have the knowledge or inclination to ask such questions.
Far-right groups have a long history of working the refs to get left alone. Early in the Obama administration, Janet Napolitano's Homeland Security issued a report pointing out the dangers of emerging far-right radical groups and calling them domestic terrorists. The cons went nuts and caused the report to be withdrawn (the administration shouldn't have caved). And now, here we are.
It really all started at least as far back as Waco and Ruby Ridge--the demonization of Federal agencies trying to protect the country from dangerous far-right radicals.
Midnight Writer
(25,361 posts)They brazenly refused because our Law Enforcement resources are totally in the hands of the President, and they knew the legal summons would not be enforced.