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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsParler CEO Says Service Dropped By "Every Vendor" And Could End His Business
Deadline
Bruce Haring
January 10, 2021 12:04pm
Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day, Matze said today on Fox News.
Matze conceded that the bans could put the company out of business while raising free speech issues, calling it an assault on everybody.
They all work together to make sure at the same time we would lose access to not only our apps, but theyre actually shutting all of our servers off tonight, off the internet, Matze said. They made an attempt to not only kill the app, but to actually destroy the entire company. And its not just these three companies. Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day.
...SNIP...
Were going to try our best to get back online as quickly as possible. But were having a lot of trouble because every vendor we talk to says they wont work with us. Because if Apple doesnt approve and Google doesnt approve, they wont.
Read full story: https://deadline.com/2021/01/parler-ceo-says-service-dropped-by-every-vendor-and-could-end-the-company-1234670607/
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)He put a match to a keg of gun powder and is dismayed that it blew up in his face.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)Maraya1969
(23,498 posts)I'm sticking this in the front because I'd like someone to explain it to me.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Does he gots any of that?
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts).
He's gonna have a tough time resolving all of those with his loon base.

https://coincentral.com/top-7-bitcoin-conspiracy-theories/
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joshcryer
(62,536 posts)It won't scale.
They need a website that has an https web client interface or it won't grow. You can't have a website on TOR, and decentralized clients don't scale to the number of users you want. A fully uncensorable decentralized ledger type system is very possible, however stenography would permit users to post illegal content on such a system. You could get around it with AI that flags post that have stenographic content but it would be subverted.
BadDog40
(317 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)✌🏻
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)
EarthFirst
(4,153 posts)Faux pas
(16,357 posts)And
napi21
(45,806 posts)Pubs to spread their venom.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)an attempted and ongoing coup.
pat_k
(13,376 posts)As I posted elsewhere:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=631235
Initech
(108,783 posts)They want to be openly racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic assholes in public without consequences.
pat_k
(13,376 posts)Insanity.
Get a soapbox and shout in the public square. Don't expect private organizations to roll out the red carpet.
Initech
(108,783 posts)AZ8theist
(7,377 posts)"Free speech" to these fucking Nazis is a one way street..
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)For PRIVATE COMPANIES. The Free Speech clause is for an Individual as it relates to GOVERNMENTAL Speech. Private Corporations are not the Government. This is what has been lost as the lines of Business and Government have intersected way too much.
If the Insurrection now make folk WAKE UP and STAND UP against those who believe "Free Speech" and Private Corporations ever belong in the same damn sentence, as it does not!!!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)You can't berate the free market for bouncing you to oblivion when the free market comprises your political porn.
lisa58
(5,809 posts)lisa58
(5,809 posts)denbot
(9,950 posts)No shit asshole..
bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)Sure is strange not to have briefings from the likes of FBI DHS, but I guess they are very busy.
Link to tweet
Tim Alberta
@TimAlberta
The stuff I've heard in the last 72 hoursfrom members of Congress, law enforcement friends, gun shop owners, MAGA devoteesis absolutely chilling.
We need to brace for a wave of violence in this country. Not just over the next couple of weeks, but over the next couple of years.
Link to tweet
Small but fierce
@SacredSHS
Replying to
@TimAlberta
This is from Parler. Tell me THIS doesn't terrify you. It's been reported to multiple agencies.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErY6yY1XAAIm3u5?format=jpg&name=small
1:04 PM · Jan 10, 2021·Twitter for Android
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Line 3: Delete "commie progressive democrats"
replace with "White Evangelical Christian"
Line 5: Delete "commie"
Replace with "Infidel"
you get the idea...
central scrutinizer
(12,654 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)you helped fuel the domestic terrorism of January 6, 2021 . ..
live love laugh
(16,383 posts)UpInArms
(54,984 posts)Go drown yourself in a pool of your own tears.
ffr
(23,399 posts)Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)The Invisible hand of the free market canceled its contracts with you for violation of terms of service. Private companies have no obligation to sponsor your hate speech. Maybe flyers in truck stops???
rgbecker
(4,890 posts)IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,316 posts)Takket
(23,715 posts)there were so many complaints about how twitter was targeting conservatives so "i'm leaving, come follow me on parler".
i bet twitter won't look so bad to them now lol. hopefully they aren't let back in.
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)Ruining the American dream will have to wait a bit. Sorry Vlad Matze let you down.
Yonnie3
(19,458 posts)My advice, is that this is America, work hard and pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You'll be fine.
FakeNoose
(41,635 posts)
MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)When you try to over throw the government you no longer can claim censorship. YOU ARE TRYING TO OVER THROW OUR GOVERNMENT!
As I recall in 2016 after winning the Popular vote, ALL of you told us to get over it. Get over our feelings. Well backcha!
intrepidity
(8,582 posts)DeminPennswoods
(17,506 posts)nt
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)About Time. Go FREE MARKET on Eliminating All Things Parler. Great job!!!
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Live by capitalism, die by capitalism if your company condones and enables violence and insurrection.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,453 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,411 posts)Tots and pears!
DBoon
(24,988 posts)Then why have a service that allows planning armed insurrections by Nazis?
Clearly fogged in
(2,712 posts)dalton99a
(94,133 posts)Free speech, my ass
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)

BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)mdbl
(8,656 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)You know you're fucked when your lawyers fire you as a client.
But seriously, are we supposed to get all choked up over the demise of a company as harmful as this one?
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)There are no free speech issues involved in your situation. Apple, Google et al. are all private companies. What's happening to you is what Republicans used to call the free market.
The First Amendment protects us from the government censoring us. It doesn't say a word about private companies' behavior.
Sorry, sucker. You could have cleaned up your service but instead you thought you were "edgy."
c-rational
(3,203 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)But Apple and Google wont let them back into their app stores, so that will neuter them greatly.
If people want into it, they will have to login via a browser.
Putin will make sure it happens as it is ready made Russian agitprop.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)geomon666
(7,519 posts)But you're above that, ain't ya?
jmbar2
(7,989 posts)This is starting to hit higher up on the food chain.
mahina
(20,645 posts)would be. But I hope people who can, do.
crickets
(26,168 posts)and had a huge hand in funding it. It's so sweet to see it blow up in her face.
niyad
(132,446 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,535 posts)fishwax
(29,346 posts)Oh well.
gademocrat7
(11,941 posts)Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Obvious
hopefully, but seriously. This isn't a "free speech" issue. I would give him more respect if he had said, "This is an issue of censorship", but right wingers don't really care about the meaning of words. They operate in a world of feelings, not logic, despite Ben Shapiro's stupid catchphrase, "Facts don't care about your feelings".
This is a group of private companies who are making a business decision. They see the toxicity of the message on Parler and they are saying, "this will be bad for the bottom line". They are getting backlash for their hateful ideas not who they are. They could be conservative and have a whole range of outlets to discuss conservative views, but they are not. They are extremist, bigoted, White Supremacists, Anti-Semites, Xenophobic, Misogynists, etc... whose views are so extreme at this point, as to not be tenable in a marketplace. This is the consequence of their views and words and the actions that those views and words unleashed on January 6th 2021. Hopefully Parler, Fox, OANN, Newsmax, and all other right wing garbage will face a similar reckoning.
GaYellowDawg
(5,101 posts)Consequences.
KentuckyWoman
(7,401 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)and says "you're an asshole ".
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)violently overthrow the government after a brutal, murderous seditious insurrection attempt on the Capitol.
What could possibly go wrong?
DFW
(60,186 posts)DSandra
(1,719 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,379 posts)Now, now. Just get a good grip on those boot straps and work harder.
DeminPennswoods
(17,506 posts)nt
Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)1). Fuck John's Feelings.
2). We Are Truly Enjoying The Taste of Your Parler Gone Tears.
3).
That's All!
Initech
(108,783 posts)Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)ScottFrom1960
(11 posts)Anyway, it's cold here. How's the weather where you are?
LittleGirl
(8,999 posts)Providers can select their clients because thats just the way capitalism works.
Suck it.
Lol, ha ha ha
ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !
Punk, whiny, snowflake!
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Renew Deal
(85,165 posts)ToxMarz
(2,930 posts)And no one is REQUIRED to do business with them. Everything they need others do, so they can also do it themselves if they want. Good luck with that though.
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)It's hard to believe so many people prefer peace and prosperity to civil war. I don't know what's going on in their minds.
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)No? CompuServe? Earthlink? Maybe a MySpace page?
yaesu
(9,328 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,202 posts)If you're on Twitter, I enjoy @BadLegalTakes
The "fire in a crowded theater" myth comes up frequently & usually results in posts by attorneys of people banging their heads on desks.
Wednesdays
(22,603 posts)mackdaddy
(1,976 posts)Search warrant on the way.
Good thing you collected the drivers licenses of everyone who signed up. They might knock a year or two off you sentence for sedition if you co-operate.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)Wait- I'll get my violin.
George II
(67,782 posts)
Hekate
(100,133 posts)...the stability of that government? This isnt about free speech rights, you morons, because all of these are non-governmental free-enterprise outfits, and their decision to drop the ban-hammer is their own.
For which I thank them, actually, but I still distrust their inherent allegiance to democracy.
TNNurse
(7,541 posts)and I mean that in the least sincere way possible.
Denvermosaic
(168 posts)suffer the same consequences
Lulu KC
(8,893 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)...for their mass communications.
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)58Sunliner
(6,331 posts)marble falls
(71,936 posts)Wellalrightythen! Going to write some code somewhere on contract for around $35,000 a year will be good for him.
MustBeTheBooz
(361 posts)Maybe all of these companies just think your users are assholes and want nothing to do with violent sedition. SMDH
2naSalit
(102,802 posts)marble falls
(71,936 posts)ad121rome
(151 posts)Good riddance.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Tiniest violin in the world.
paulkienitz
(1,507 posts)Every court precedent agrees. Sedition, incitement of violence, and advocacy of crime are not protected by the first amendment. Nor are libel or slander. Put the two together and most "hate speech" in general is unprotected. So are threats and attempts to cause panic. All in all, very little of fascist discourse actually falls within protected political speech.
volstork
(5,837 posts)Don't be a party to insurrection and sedition next time, AH.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Has Parler ever denied someone their 1st Amendment free speech rights to post on their site?
moose65
(3,454 posts)Im sure Parler has terms of service. Have they ever blocked or banned anyone?
I can only imagine how toxic it is over there. These types love to argue with the libtards, but Im sure there arent many liberals over there, so they would end up arguing with each other. 🙄
lark
(26,081 posts)PatSeg
(53,214 posts)I'd say they are finished for good!
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Rebekah Mercer must be so proud of her funding of this site that helped fuel conspiracy and the ransacking of the US Capitol. She is an accessory for providing the tools for the crime. How do we get these people out of our country? If they dont want to live in a democracy, then let them find another country to live in. Im sick of their stupidity and their crap of claiming to take back their country. Its our country, not their country.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)greatbaldeagle
(172 posts)All the businesses, especially the small ones that had to close due to Agent Orange-tan not only lying and refusing to do anything to stop the spread of Covid-19, but fueling behavior that accelerated it actually have a grievance against the government for what happened to them. Giving aid and comfort to seditious traitors and having business partners sever ties with you as a result does not qualify as a grievance against the government.
He needs to take his snowflake face of tears and place it in front of a mirror. There he'll find the entity deserving of his grievance.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... I bet that would make Lil' Kim's day!
Hugin
(37,848 posts)Yesss... I searched this whole thread and I didn't see this yet.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)BadGimp
(4,109 posts)samsingh
(18,426 posts)RainCaster
(13,717 posts)SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)Tommymac
(7,334 posts)SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)
durablend
(9,270 posts)"Matze said that the services are unfairly targeting Parler. Theyre trying to falsely claim that were somehow responsible for the events that occurred on the 6th, he said, the date of the Capitol building takeover by protesters."
Right, it was ANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFA that did it, you had nothing at all to do with it
NellieStarbuck
(271 posts)That's business!
Blue Owl
(59,107 posts)Swamp Country Po Boy
(73 posts)
nolabear
(43,850 posts)We outnumber you.
Iggo
(49,928 posts)Nope.
Just gonna laugh.
Archetypist
(218 posts)Aint it grand? Let those economics trickle down to you. Mark.
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)There are no "free speech issues" here. It's NOT "the government" doing this. Neither the FCC nor Congress are "making laws" that are "limiting" your "speech".
It's free-wheeling "private industry" that you all so love, making a "business decision".
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)you should have watched your platform more carefully, but you knew that already didn't you.
Corgigal
(9,298 posts)to this shady AF, CEO on the Sway podcast. Episode called : If you were this app, you saw the mob coming.
My impression, couldnt have happened to more deserving tap dancer.
fierywoman
(8,595 posts)MontanaMama
(24,722 posts)I just went over there.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)"Awwwwww...."
And, there is apparently one more moron that doesn't even know what the 1st Amendment says.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)I suspect within a few days they will announce they found an offshore isp to host their app servers. Just like wikileaks, it will be shrouded in layers of misdirection and shady funding.
But the site won't be gone for long. It's too valuable to putin and his oligarch's.