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Nevilledog

(54,709 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:29 PM Jan 2021

Donald J. Trump and his crime family are going on a tour to try to get states to secede from the US





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Alexandra Chalupa
@AlexandraChalup
The 25th Amendment has to happen now. Donald J. Trump and his crime family are going on a tour to try to get states to secede from the United States.

Yes, that’s how insane and treasonous the Trump crime family and their associates are. They’re coming for state capitols.
8:20 PM · Jan 10, 2021

Anyone who paid attention to Ukraine knows the next move is secession. It’s Manafort’s Kremlin playbook - he helped Putin steal Crimea from Ukraine, it was a political operation as much as a ground war.

The narrative is in place. That’s why Trump is going to Alamo, Texas.

Dr. iPersephone🆘✍️🌊
@persephone_i
Remember Barr’s under-the-radar tour of police departments around the country?
8:36 PM · Jan 10, 2021


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Donald J. Trump and his crime family are going on a tour to try to get states to secede from the US (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
Hmm they do know there are no SS checks or FEMA outside the US no? MaryMagdaline Jan 2021 #1
Or Medicare. bobandrileysmom Jan 2021 #17
Yep. These Fox News geezers will be in for quite a shock MaryMagdaline Jan 2021 #18
That's not true- if you pay into SS, you get benefits, citizenship not required. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #19
You can be a non-citizen... lame54 Jan 2021 #27
True, but how will they get the money? MurrayDelph Jan 2021 #29
A US International Social Security Agreement bobandrileysmom Jan 2021 #33
For those living abroad, yes. I'm talking about permanent residents living in the US too. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #37
For some reason something like this had crossed my mind. Chicago1980 Jan 2021 #2
This would have struck me as far-fetched even a week ago... First Speaker Jan 2021 #3
This is a reliable source? marybourg Jan 2021 #4
She's followed by a ton of people I trust Nevilledog Jan 2021 #8
That doesn't make her a reliable source. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #10
Then you'll be right and happy. I wonder if they thought she was reliable when she was at the DNC. Nevilledog Jan 2021 #16
LOL greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #12
Trump saw as documentary on Aaron Burr I guess exboyfil Jan 2021 #5
Huh? TwilightZone Jan 2021 #6
I believe very little of what is posted on Twitter. cwydro Jan 2021 #36
Sorry, you can't have Texas. DFW Jan 2021 #7
I honestly don't care if red states secede. Just don't kill my President and VP, and I'll be happy. Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #9
I'm in Illinois like greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #11
This happens with every Democratic president LeftInTX Jan 2021 #13
It seems the only basis she has for the statement is Ukraine. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #14
So which states would secede? Chipper Chat Jan 2021 #15
It isn't probably widely known, but Cal-Exit chatter/movement has exploded here msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #24
It's Russia, stirring more division, or moonscape Jan 2021 #34
Thank You!! msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #38
Yes. If they keep talking about it on Next Door, moonscape Jan 2021 #40
My first thought was South Dakota.. Cha Jan 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2021 #20
I'm sorry BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #21
Alamo, TX is not where the Alamo is. Rudy must have set up the trip. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #22
If they get to the Alamo they should look for a bicycle in the basement. Kablooie Jan 2021 #26
Kudos for the pee wee reference! redwitch Jan 2021 #35
Maybe they'll end up at the Alamo Car Rental Kiosk. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #39
I was really curious about Barr's visit to police stations just before the election. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #23
If we can save our democracy by letting go of a few of coti Jan 2021 #25
Sorry no Zorro Jan 2021 #28
I was looking for the "onion" or satire! Cha Jan 2021 #31
trumps have Got to be Shitting!!!! Cha Jan 2021 #30

bobandrileysmom

(45 posts)
17. Or Medicare.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jan 2021

If I read the SS website correctly, they would no longer be US citizens, they forfeit these benefits. Ex-Pats are a different category. Also they would lose any military installations, unless they pay for part of the upkeep, vis-a-vis Germany, Italy, etc. Take care of their own infrastructure, forestry service, and all those other “socialist” benefits. I don’t think they would like that.

MurrayDelph

(5,706 posts)
29. True, but how will they get the money?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:01 AM
Jan 2021

No USPS, no interstate banking, no interstate highway system, possibly needing a passport to travel back, and you know those anti-maskers won't have vaccination certificates.

bobandrileysmom

(45 posts)
33. A US International Social Security Agreement
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 03:08 AM
Jan 2021

Would have to be put in place for each “state” or, if they merge, “country”. It gets tricky about the taxes part.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
2. For some reason something like this had crossed my mind.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:33 PM
Jan 2021

Go for smaller 'targets'.

They had practice this summer with Ohio and Michigan.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
3. This would have struck me as far-fetched even a week ago...
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jan 2021

...and it still seems unlikely. But after the events of the past week...who knows what these traitors are capable of. I still think it likelier that Trump and his hellspawn are just trying to stir up shit, seeing if any of it sticks anywhere.

Nevilledog

(54,709 posts)
8. She's followed by a ton of people I trust
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:38 PM
Jan 2021

Frank Figliuzzi, Glenn Kirchner, John Sipher, Walter Shaub, Renato Mariotti, Malcolm Nance, Natasha Bertrand.....and more

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
10. That doesn't make her a reliable source.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021

Later in the thread she says, "Anyone who paid attention to Ukraine knows the next move is secession."

If that's her idea of deductive reasoning, I'm not buying it, tons of followers or no.

If that's her only reasoning, it's not worth the pixels it's printed on.

Nevilledog

(54,709 posts)
16. Then you'll be right and happy. I wonder if they thought she was reliable when she was at the DNC.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jan 2021

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. Huh?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

Trump is going to Alamo to get more wall built.

If he's looking for states to secede, Texas isn't a good target. Polls rarely show more than 20% of voters want to secede. One can get 20% of the public to support anything.

I'm curious where she's getting this info. Sounds a bit fishy, to be honest.

She also misuses the word treason, but then, so does just about everyone.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
36. I believe very little of what is posted on Twitter.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:57 AM
Jan 2021

I know many here consider it gospel, but just no.

Crunchy Frog

(28,208 posts)
9. I honestly don't care if red states secede. Just don't kill my President and VP, and I'll be happy.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:39 PM
Jan 2021

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
14. It seems the only basis she has for the statement is Ukraine.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:45 PM
Jan 2021

She says later in the thread that secession is the next step because of Ukraine.

If that's her only basis for the statement, it's not worth taking seriously. It doesn't even make sense.

Chipper Chat

(10,739 posts)
15. So which states would secede?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jan 2021

Into Trumpland under King Donald the First.

1. West Virginia (best bet)
2. Indiana (state is chocked full of trumphumpers)
3. South Dakota (indian lands can remain part of the old country)
4. North Dakota (stockpile those guns)
5. Oklahoma (Imhoffland)
6. Utah (they worship trump more than Joseph Smith)
7. Idaho (lost in space
.....add your own...

Sorry if I have offended good people of these states.

msfiddlestix

(8,159 posts)
24. It isn't probably widely known, but Cal-Exit chatter/movement has exploded here
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jan 2021

in Northern California... it's been a "thing" for quite a while but ramped up exponentially past a few years. Back in the day because internal issues within the state, the idea of dividing the state in to two was desirous from my point of view because of water conservation issues.. Battling with Southern Californians over water conversation and all of the ancillary policy issues associated with it.. But hey, we didn't live in fantasy land on the idea.

But this past year, chatter on my local Nextdoor discussion boards grew into something more than just chatter.

msfiddlestix

(8,159 posts)
38. Thank You!!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:33 AM
Jan 2021

This is a piece that I have to spend more time than I have at the moment, but bookmarking. This is quite a revelation to me.. Possibly should be posted on next-door, but I believe it will be taken down as too political. We'll see. Again, thanks reading the first few paragraphs is a startling wake up call.

moonscape

(5,624 posts)
40. Yes. If they keep talking about it on Next Door,
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jan 2021

I’d probably say something because it would be on topic, wouldn’t it? The issue is already political. I know Next Door skews conservative but having a post taken down is still worth the try to educate on this.

There are some good in-depth pieces on the Russian involvement.

Cha

(316,398 posts)
32. My first thought was South Dakota..
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:20 AM
Jan 2021

Noem who let COVID/trump Virus Foment not following any Protocol.. and the state is overrun with Sickness..

And, her comment on our tow new Democratic Senators in Georgia was.. "Georgia just elected Two Communists."!

How you like them apples?

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Midnight Writer

(25,117 posts)
22. Alamo, TX is not where the Alamo is. Rudy must have set up the trip.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:16 AM
Jan 2021

Maybe they'll end up at the Alamo Car Rental Kiosk.

Irish_Dem

(79,285 posts)
23. I was really curious about Barr's visit to police stations just before the election.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jan 2021

No one made much of a big deal about it, but was very odd.
Now it makes sense.

coti

(4,625 posts)
25. If we can save our democracy by letting go of a few of
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:57 AM
Jan 2021

the shittier states, I'd be willing to listen. I'm kind of in the mood to start kicking states out anyway.

Cha

(316,398 posts)
30. trumps have Got to be Shitting!!!!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:08 AM
Jan 2021

Who would do that?! SD?

Does the state have a vote?!

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