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uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:23 AM Jan 2021

What about a Fact Check Consortium that is sanctioned by the FCC to replace Fairness Doctrine?

What about a Fact Check Consortium that is sanctioned by the FCC to replace Fairness Doctrine?

Any outlet without FCC stamp on it doesn't have to be taken seriously which would knock out FAUX News who under reports or lies about facts all together.

70% of republicans currently think their lord and savior and Whore for Putin did nothing wrong ... that's horrible. That's because MAZI outlets for their news is under reporting insurrection day or just plain lying about it.

The way the southern slave owners got mostly poor white males to fight for their "property" was through lies told in church mostly and other print outlets.

We need to hit back at their base of motivation, the cold blooded lies told to the right by the rights outlets

The goal here is to brand the disinformation outlets so those who want to advertise with them can be exposed and if the disinformation outlets have cash operations we know who's funding them.

EDIT: The consortium made up of credible news outlets votes on a set of facts and lays them out there. Even if a "Faux News Type" comes along their false votes will be constantly overridden by credible sources.

We can't let the false motivations continue on

What say you?

tia

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What about a Fact Check Consortium that is sanctioned by the FCC to replace Fairness Doctrine? (Original Post) uponit7771 Jan 2021 OP
The problem is that people already brainwashed refuse to listen to facts. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #1
Its not the people its the outlets that can be branded now. The companies who want to advertise on uponit7771 Jan 2021 #2
Yes that is not a bad idea then. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #4
So then if one controls the FCC, one controls the fact check consortium... RockRaven Jan 2021 #3
The consortium will be multiple CREDIBLE news outlets that have been part of the FCC before... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #5
The FCC is part of the executive branch, our unitary executive god king thingy... RockRaven Jan 2021 #9
Having a government agency as the arbiter of truth is problematic. Make7 Jan 2021 #6
It would be made up of private news outlets with journalistic integrety, maybe not government afflia uponit7771 Jan 2021 #8
You have a good point. nt TigressDem Jan 2021 #14
How would that be better than re-instituting marybourg Jan 2021 #7
Fairness Doctrine leaves it up to the outlets an FCC can isolate outlets who don't want to be uponit7771 Jan 2021 #10
FCC has no authority over cable-only media. LastDemocratInSC Jan 2021 #11
Then Cable Only Media should NOT be allowed to call themselves a NEWS program. TigressDem Jan 2021 #13
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jan 2021 #18
Thanks. Gosh DU is a unique place. TigressDem Jan 2021 #20
The joining of of the FCC would be voluntary but anyone doesn't want to join gets called fringe ... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #19
How about "Truth in News Reports" like "Truth in Advertising" FCC regulations with HEAVY FINES? TigressDem Jan 2021 #12
Maybe some help in this. moondust Jan 2021 #15
Great idea... We need to do something to stop the fake news! Karadeniz Jan 2021 #16
One long-term but necessary solution... Silent3 Jan 2021 #17

Irish_Dem

(79,313 posts)
1. The problem is that people already brainwashed refuse to listen to facts.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:25 AM
Jan 2021

So they would not care about fact checking.

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
2. Its not the people its the outlets that can be branded now. The companies who want to advertise on
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jan 2021

... them will have to be fringe companies and the non FCC will have to tell where they get their cash from if they can stand without advertisement.

This is to brand the outlets not convince the listeners

RockRaven

(18,619 posts)
3. So then if one controls the FCC, one controls the fact check consortium...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:34 AM
Jan 2021

Remind me how the FCC was under Trump.

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
5. The consortium will be multiple CREDIBLE news outlets that have been part of the FCC before...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

... not ones that can be rammed in by despots like Trump.

Also, the stupid outlet votes wont out weigh the other votes of credible news sources

RockRaven

(18,619 posts)
9. The FCC is part of the executive branch, our unitary executive god king thingy...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:44 AM
Jan 2021

If you want to form a body made up of "credible news sources" then by all means let us, as a society, set up such a body -- but leave the entire executive branch out of it. Make it a social thing not a government thing.

Half the time the executive branch is controlled wholly, utterly, entirely -- to a degree which would make the Pope, Saddam Hussein, and the Kim dynasty blush -- by Republicans. That's not good.

Make7

(8,549 posts)
6. Having a government agency as the arbiter of truth is problematic.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:41 AM
Jan 2021

Other than conveying the message that the government decides what is true or not, what happens when the operation of that agency is politicized? For example, Trump had many agencies delete references to climate change. Do we want the truth to constantly change depending on who wins an election?

Many people tend to believe what they want regardless of facts, having the government rubber stamp something as '100% Certified Truth' will likely reinforce whatever viewpoint they already had.

Besides, everyone that wants to marginalize it will just refer to it as The Ministry Of Truth.

It's a good thought – I simply cannot see a way it could be implemented where it would make a substantive difference.

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
8. It would be made up of private news outlets with journalistic integrety, maybe not government afflia
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:44 AM
Jan 2021

... affiliated then.

I can see your point

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
10. Fairness Doctrine leaves it up to the outlets an FCC can isolate outlets who don't want to be
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jan 2021

... fact checked from advertisers who sponsor them.

McDonald's advertising for a FAUX News outlet would be horrible if they've been fringed

There's no FAUX News without money, there's no money without advertisers and if the outlet is getting money from private funds they have to tell people.

LastDemocratInSC

(4,203 posts)
11. FCC has no authority over cable-only media.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:06 AM
Jan 2021

That would blunt the effect of what is being discussed here.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
13. Then Cable Only Media should NOT be allowed to call themselves a NEWS program.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jan 2021

If it's based on lies, it's fiction, not actual news.


TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
20. Thanks. Gosh DU is a unique place.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

When someone just "gets" my frustration and maybe wishful thinking - but in a better world it would be EASILY TRUE.

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
19. The joining of of the FCC would be voluntary but anyone doesn't want to join gets called fringe ...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

... because all they want to do is spread lies anyway

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
12. How about "Truth in News Reports" like "Truth in Advertising" FCC regulations with HEAVY FINES?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jan 2021

A news agency that pushes FAKE EVIDENCE can be "fact checked" by the Consortium and fined like 2.5 Million Dollars per LIE.


HIPPA Violations are in the Million Dollar range and you can be CERTAIN that employers do NOT want to be caught in that space.

It has to be hefty enough that consistent peddling of lies becomes a danger to their business.

Maybe set it up so some leeway is given the first time as far as, could have been an honest mistake. But once they have been notified of the process and violated it then SECOND OFFENSE raise it by .5 Million 1 Million for the THIRD.

NO FOURTH - Three Strikes and you lose your license for 1 year.








moondust

(21,177 posts)
15. Maybe some help in this.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:57 AM
Jan 2021

Germany knows all too well the danger that propaganda can pose. They passed this "Facebook Act" in 2017. It may have some useful tips.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act



 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
17. One long-term but necessary solution...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:18 AM
Jan 2021

...Is that we MUST consider basic critical thinking, and the media savvy to identify manipulation and propaganda techniques, as skills which are just as fundamental to education as literacy and math.

Of course, this will be a hard sell, because too much of business and politics and religion depends on exploiting common failings of critical thinking. One of the things (among many) that has shocked me about the Trump era is how well incredibly crude propaganda techniques work on so many people. Ploys that seem to me glaringly obvious and ham-fisted nevertheless sway huge numbers of people.

Ignorance and gullibility are too easily exploited, especially in an online world, to the peril of stable democracies.

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