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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/policy-sets-motion-nuclear-space-133000204.htmlLOS ANGELES, CA / ACCESSWIRE / January 11, 2021 / On December 16, 2020, the White House issued Space Policy Directive-6 (SPD-6), which outlines a national strategy for using space nuclear power and propulsion (SNPP) systems in a safe and effective manner. The new policy directive confirms the United States' commitment to using SNPP systems and establishing nuclear power stations on the moon and beyond, which is good news for US Nuclear (OTCQB:UCLE) and partner MIFTI, who have designed and are testing thermonuclear fusion power generators.
Scott Pace of the National Space Council, commented "Space nuclear power and propulsion is a fundamentally enabling technology for American deep-space missions to Mars and beyond. The United States intends to remain the leader among spacefaring nations, applying nuclear power technology safely, securely, and sustainably in space." The key factor for enabling space travel are the new nuclear powered propulsion systems, as traditional chemical powered rocket fuels are hopelessly weak. DARPA, NASA, and the US Space Force have recently gotten serious and deployed the nuclear option. Why? Nuclear fuels and nuclear power systems, such as the highly-regarded MIFTI Z-pinch fusion reactor, can deliver 10,000,000 times the work (or energy) per payload pound than the chemical rocket fuels now used by Musk's Space-X, Bezos's Blue Origin, Branson's Virgin Atlantic, as do Lockheed and Boeing.
Fusion propulsion should far outperform fission-based propulsion, because fusion reactions release up to four times as much energy, says NASA chief engineer Jeff Sheehy. Fusion uses a very lightweight, low-cost, and safe fuel, whereas fission uses a fuel that is scarce, expensive, and hazardous. Fusion propulsion devices could also be one-thousandth as large as a fission device. Saturn's moon Titan, has long been a focus of scientists as it is the only known body in space besides Earth where there is clear evidence of surface liquid, which could potentially harbor life. A fusion powered propulsion system could reach Mars in as little as 3 months, the asteroid belt in 7 months, and Titan in just two years.
Princeton Plasma Physics Lab is in the process of developing a fusion powered spacecraft called the Direct Fusion Drive (DFD) which can produce thrust directly from fusion, while US Nuclear and MIFTI are just a few years away from producing the world's first working fusion power generator.
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Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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But of course if it results in a radioactive atmosphere then there's no doubt where the blame will go.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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It's how the atmosphere-processing plant was powered in James Cameron's movie, Aliens.
But it does appear that a fusion reactor may produce less radiation but not eliminate it completely:
Wikipedia: Fusion Rocket
All I'm really saying is that if the project succeeds the Trump crime family will claim credit, but if it fails it'll be the scientists' fault.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Fusion reactors do not create radioactive waste.
Also they are not science fiction. Some of my colleagues work on fusion reactors.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)Which has long been the objection.
Those products could potentially fall back to Earth and cause a wide spread radiation spillage. A big old dirty bomb.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Helium-3 and deuterium aren't radioactive.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)The only thing (outside of science fiction) to accomplish that is fission.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)wrong), fusion reactors will have no such trigger.
Hugin
(33,112 posts)"Virtually all helium-3 used in industry today is produced from the radioactive decay of tritium, given its very low natural abundance and its very high cost.
Production, sales and distribution of helium-3 in the United States are managed by the US Department of Energy (DOE) Isotope Program.
While tritium has several different experimentally determined values of its half-life, NIST lists 4,500 ± 8 days (12.32 ± 0.02 years). It decays into helium-3 by beta decay."
Ooo... Beta decay. Tritium is dirty, radioactive, and essential to having enough He-3 to fill a thimble.
I'd much rather get a Hydrogen economy going. Fuel cells and/or recombining it with O2 to form H2O. Much cleaner.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)and puts imaginary numbers on how marvellous they are (in reality, they can't put any proper numbers on them, because they haven't made a working one yet). This is just a bit of PR to push up a share price or two (it actually says "fission uses a fuel that is scarce, expensive, and hazardous" ).
The government policy is about fission, and some development of radioisotope generators too.
triron
(21,993 posts)This is nonsense. Educate yourself.
I worked in the nuclear waste field (computer modeling) for most of my career.
There is too much hyperbole out there with little or no scientific basis.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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I'm talking about how politicians like to legislate technology into existence. We've seen it with legislation that required cars to meet certain emission standards by specific deadlines even though the technology to achieve it didn't yet exist.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)And while the article you later linked did speak of such engines producing less radioactivity than a fission reactor, this is (correct me if I'm wrong) ionizing radiation such as gamma rays. This cannot make the atmosphere radioactive, in contrast to the operation and/or catastrophic failure of a fission reactor.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)You've given us the January press release from a company which reckons it can make a fusion reactor. But the December government announcement, which is what "legislating" is about, is about fission (perhaps fusion too, but it doesn't mention it):
and Propulsion
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Nuclear reactors generate energy through nuclear fission, typically of uranium fuel.
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Space Policy Directive 6
For modest power needs, radioisotopic thermal generatorswhich are essentially nuclear batteriescan
use the energy of radioactive decay to generate electricity for decades. For higher power needs, small
nuclear reactors can provide heating, electricity, and spacecraft propulsion. SNPP systems can enable
spacecraft, and rovers and other surface systems, to operate in environments where other energy sources
are inadequate. SNPP systems can also shorten transit times for crewed and robotic spacecraft, thereby
reducing radiation exposure from harsh space environments.
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The United States will pursue goals for SNPP development and utilization that are both enabling and
ambitious:
o Develop capabilities that enable production of fuel suitable to a range of planetary surface and inspace SNPP applications;
o Demonstrate a fission power system on the Moon;
o Establish technical foundations and capabilities that will enable options for in-space nuclear
propulsion;
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Fact-Sheet-Space-Policy-Directive-6.pdf
So this is not "nuclear paranoia", in terms of worrying about fissile material in an accident.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,620 posts)We'll eventually have to do something. Current chemical rockets and energy hogs and extreme polluters. We need a better way to get into orbit.