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FBI needs help IDing the man who wielded the fire extinguisher, clear picture here (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #1
a member of the Fire Dpt? demtenjeep Jan 2021 #2
Probably not Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #6
He wouldn't be an active fire fighter with that facial hair. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #31
Correct. Absolutely not in Chicago. Moustaches only. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #36
They are finding bdamomma Jan 2021 #67
Wow and killed a cop, rw Trump supporting cop with a fire extinguisher, all kinds or irony. LizBeth Jan 2021 #3
Bet all the facial hair has been shaved off. n/t Arne Jan 2021 #4
They should release this photo with his beard photoshopped off Siwsan Jan 2021 #20
Too late, folks that know him safeinOhio Jan 2021 #30
Great news!! Saw a video earlier of him throwing the damn thing, but only his shoulder was Leghorn21 Jan 2021 #5
Coward has most likely shaved his beard MontanaMama Jan 2021 #7
Oh no, how could a firefighter turn against humanity like this? blm Jan 2021 #8
CFD could also be the Charlottesville FD. n/t happybird Jan 2021 #9
It's Chicago. LisaL Jan 2021 #15
I don't think it's Chicago. That cap is more purple. The Chicago FD Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #50
The hat is dark blue. LisaL Jan 2021 #55
Maybe I didn't make my point so well. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #57
It's the same hat. LisaL Jan 2021 #58
I agree jcgoldie Jan 2021 #60
I think the hat just looks purple because of the lighting. It's probably black. yardwork Jan 2021 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #16
First thing I thought of. Or Charleston (but which one?). Or Charlotte. Or Canandaigua. Or ... mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #25
Confused Fucked Dude. nt William769 Jan 2021 #10
Can't Find Dick. nt DEbluedude Jan 2021 #17
You and William are killing me! nt Ilsa Jan 2021 #76
The Hat Tree-Hugger Jan 2021 #11
I think you have found a winner ... Jarqui Jan 2021 #26
Thank you Tree-Hugger Jan 2021 #29
Maybe a father. Jarqui Jan 2021 #35
Chicago police appear to be among the worst in the country when it comes to realizing their Blue_true Jan 2021 #46
This is true. Many here suck, but many are also on the square. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #68
I believe I understand why they don't, but I wish decent Cops Blue_true Jan 2021 #69
Absolutely. I have no doubt that good ones have trust issues at work. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #73
But they also face the issue of getting in a tough spot, calling for backup Blue_true Jan 2021 #74
They're clean shaven because they need the respirators to fit snugly against their skin. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #32
Could be retired or on furlough. Ace Rothstein Jan 2021 #39
There are many possibilities. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #40
Yes, many Trump supporters go out of their way to piss people off. Ace Rothstein Jan 2021 #43
That's the truth. It's a mission. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #45
seems like Chicago FD jcgoldie Jan 2021 #12
It could be the FD of any town or city that starts with a 'C'. n/t Chemisse Jan 2021 #13
Chicago Fire Department Jersey Devil Jan 2021 #14
I'm wondering how much help DU people will be...... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #18
Most of us have friends/neighbors/family who are Trumpsters Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #21
Somebody knows this POS Deuxcents Jan 2021 #19
Etsy sells the EXACT hat for Chicago Fire Department but it is not the actual CFD logo. BrightKnight Jan 2021 #22
His face was pretty clear in the photo. Won't take long now, even if he shaves. Blue_true Jan 2021 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author RobertDevereaux Jan 2021 #23
There is too much focus on the hat Hav Jan 2021 #24
IDK, appears to be kind of unusual. Exact match for Etsy, not the CFD logo, and the only one BrightKnight Jan 2021 #37
His face was really clear in that picture. The cap was just icing on the cake. Blue_true Jan 2021 #49
Anyone can buy the hat but a fireman would sure know how heavy a building's fire extinguisher is lunasun Jan 2021 #27
A Fireman would know something like that can kill a person if the person is hit in the head Blue_true Jan 2021 #51
I dont think he is an active member of the Chicago Fire Dept. Squidly Jan 2021 #28
He may have stolen the hat from a homeless person. He could be from anywhere. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #33
I'm guessing someone that killed a cop like that has a mug shot somewhere. BrightKnight Jan 2021 #34
It is just a matter of time before someone calls him in. Chainfire Jan 2021 #38
That my friends, is the face of a person who is screwed. Blue_true Jan 2021 #41
As Denzel Washington said to Snoop Dogg, dware Jan 2021 #48
I have had only passing exposure to fire extinguishers. Blue_true Jan 2021 #53
Yep. dware Jan 2021 #54
When I first saw the picture of the guy, it reminded me of the loud, arrogant, selfish Blue_true Jan 2021 #59
And when the do capture him. dware Jan 2021 #62
I believe a couple people from Naiperville, IL DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #42
I used to wear a Harley Davidson hat. I've never ridden a motorcycle in my life. Iggo Jan 2021 #44
I chuckled Dem2 Jan 2021 #52
His face was clear. The cap was irrelevant information, other than the FBI may have guessed Blue_true Jan 2021 #56
Yup. Ex-wife got the Air Force guy. Iggo Jan 2021 #63
Totally agree. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #64
Someone will recognize his raindrop face eventually. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #61
What the heck is the thick-looking collar around his neck? Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #65
Looks like one of them big warm Pendleton things the guys out in the warehouse wear. Iggo Jan 2021 #70
Chesapeake Fire Dept dclarston13 Jan 2021 #66
I always get murder and homocide mixed up. I suppose when he's found, he can clarify it for me. ffr Jan 2021 #71
CFD for sale online shows this. ffr Jan 2021 #72

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
67. They are finding
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jan 2021

Police Officers from other states that engaged with the insurrection.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
3. Wow and killed a cop, rw Trump supporting cop with a fire extinguisher, all kinds or irony.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jan 2021

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
20. They should release this photo with his beard photoshopped off
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:06 PM
Jan 2021

And one of it dyed.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
5. Great news!! Saw a video earlier of him throwing the damn thing, but only his shoulder was
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jan 2021

visible

YEAH YOU FUCKIN MURDERING MOTHERFUCKER

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
7. Coward has most likely shaved his beard
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jan 2021

but he will undoubtedly be found. These assholes always brag about their exploits to somebody. Someone knows.

blm

(114,658 posts)
8. Oh no, how could a firefighter turn against humanity like this?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jan 2021

This is so wrong. I hope he isn’t a firefighter and just wearing the cap to steal honor.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
50. I don't think it's Chicago. That cap is more purple. The Chicago FD
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:59 PM
Jan 2021

gear is dark navy blue; almost black. Also, those type of hats can be purchased all over Chicago. I have one, and I'm not on the department. I got it from a friend who is.

Another thing. That guy couldn't sport that goatee on the CFD. Moustaches only.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
57. Maybe I didn't make my point so well.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:18 PM
Jan 2021

Versus a Chicago FD hat, the one in the photo is "purplish". Possibly faded. Chgo. FD gear is darker.

Don't worry. If he's from here, he will be found.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
58. It's the same hat.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:21 PM
Jan 2021

The photo is zoomed from the video. His hat looks dark blue in the video. Him wearing the hat obviously doesn't mean he is a firemen with Chicago FD. Anybody can buy the hat. But he is wearing a dark blue hat with CFD (Chicago Fire Department) logo on it.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
75. I think the hat just looks purple because of the lighting. It's probably black.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:58 PM
Jan 2021

It's like that white dress/blue dress image a few years ago.

Response to happybird (Reply #9)

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,853 posts)
25. First thing I thought of. Or Charleston (but which one?). Or Charlotte. Or Canandaigua. Or ...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jan 2021

Also, wearing the beanie doesn't mean he's a member. I buy a lot of stuff at thrift stores with logos.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
26. I think you have found a winner ...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jan 2021


Haven't found him in Chicago Fire Dept pics but most of them look clean shaven. Maybe he's a retired fireman

Tree-Hugger

(3,379 posts)
29. Thank you
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jan 2021

I can never remember how to get pics to show up.

As far as I know, firemen prefer not to have beards since it's a fire risk. He could have been off for a while or retired. Or just a supporter?

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
35. Maybe a father.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

Whatever, you proved that it can be narrowed down substantially.

Chicago Police Union leader defended the attackers
https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/01/11/chicago-police-union-boss-should-resign-after-defending-capitol-rioters-aldermen-say/

So it is not like there are not any Trumpers in Chicago.

They're going to catch this guy. He's in deep trouble for apparently killing a police officer as he should be if he did it.

Doesn't look like Antifa to me ....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. Chicago police appear to be among the worst in the country when it comes to realizing their
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:48 PM
Jan 2021

responsibility to ALL citizens. Just listen at some that get caught within microphone range. Their general attitudes toward Blacks in particular seem to be unprofessional and corrosive.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
69. I believe I understand why they don't, but I wish decent Cops
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jan 2021

would make it a top priority to get the bad ones off the force.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
74. But they also face the issue of getting in a tough spot, calling for backup
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:51 PM
Jan 2021

and having the bad cops drag their feet. Situations like that is where strong, ethical police leadership is important. Leaders punish and fire people that purposely don’t do the job as they pledged to do it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. They're clean shaven because they need the respirators to fit snugly against their skin.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
18. I'm wondering how much help DU people will be......
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jan 2021

I'd like to think that most of us here have long disassociated ourselves with people that would do that kind of thing or would want to be a part of any event like that.
But then again, it could be somebody we work with or, perish the thought, somebody we're related to.
Here's hoping they find him and that justice is swift and true.....

Johnny2X2X

(24,208 posts)
21. Most of us have friends/neighbors/family who are Trumpsters
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jan 2021

I'm actually looking hard for a couple faces in those pictures, hoping not to see them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
47. His face was pretty clear in the photo. Won't take long now, even if he shaves.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jan 2021

People like him are asshole dads, asshole relatives or asshole neighbors. There likely is someone in his family or neighborhood that has already called the FBI.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Hav

(5,969 posts)
24. There is too much focus on the hat
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jan 2021

That should only be an additional clue, for instance, if there are tagged photos of him with the same cap on social media. You can get caps with FBI or Airforce on them in any shop.

BrightKnight

(3,684 posts)
37. IDK, appears to be kind of unusual. Exact match for Etsy, not the CFD logo, and the only one
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

I found on line. If I were the FBI I would wand a customer list from the Etsy vendor. Etsy Sells it as Chicago Fire Department but that is the only connection. I think most people wanting a CFD hat would get the real logo. There are far more of those on line.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. His face was really clear in that picture. The cap was just icing on the cake.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jan 2021

My guess is tv news organizations in any city or town that starts with a “C” had his picture up on news hours ago and will keep displaying it until he is arrested or is found dead. He is in for a lot of jail time, likely life.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. Anyone can buy the hat but a fireman would sure know how heavy a building's fire extinguisher is
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:30 PM
Jan 2021

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. A Fireman would know something like that can kill a person if the person is hit in the head
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:02 PM
Jan 2021

with it. He had better not be a Fireman, because then charges are going to be more severe and any defense he would try will be useless.

Squidly

(868 posts)
28. I dont think he is an active member of the Chicago Fire Dept.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:37 PM
Jan 2021

According to their website, goatees are not permitted. Hes either a retired member, a wannabee or the C isnt for Chicago.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
33. He may have stolen the hat from a homeless person. He could be from anywhere.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

More than likely he's changed his appearance by now.

Best hope is someone who knows him will turn him in.

BrightKnight

(3,684 posts)
34. I'm guessing someone that killed a cop like that has a mug shot somewhere.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jan 2021

I doubt that he would suddenly start making decisions like that at his age.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
38. It is just a matter of time before someone calls him in.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

Thanks to Trump, he could face a firing squad!

The need to put out a touched-up photo with the beard gone, you can bet he has shaved.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. That my friends, is the face of a person who is screwed.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:35 PM
Jan 2021

My guess, if he hasn’t already been identified, he won’t make 16 more hours not being so.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. I have had only passing exposure to fire extinguishers.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:05 PM
Jan 2021

But even I know that hitting someone in the head with one is not a thing to do.

dware

(18,060 posts)
54. Yep.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:10 PM
Jan 2021

I think within a day or two, someone is going to drop a dime on this murdering terrorist and the FBI/US Marshal's Office show up on his door step with a federal arrest warrant for, among other felonies, federal murder.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. When I first saw the picture of the guy, it reminded me of the loud, arrogant, selfish
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:22 PM
Jan 2021

people that I have met in my life. The guess here, admittedly uneducated other than for life experience, is someone who knows that guy and despise him have already turned him in, and now the FBI is just crossing the “t”s and dotting the “i”s before showing up with a SWAT team to get him.

DeminPennswoods

(17,506 posts)
42. I believe a couple people from Naiperville, IL
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:39 PM
Jan 2021

are among the arrested. That's outside Chicago, could be from there, if the hat is supposed to be a "Chicago" one.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
44. I used to wear a Harley Davidson hat. I've never ridden a motorcycle in my life.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

Just sayin’.

Dem2

(8,178 posts)
52. I chuckled
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jan 2021

Unfortunately, this thread shows that once again, people get an impulse to respond without imagining that every other person who responded previously had the same thought.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. His face was clear. The cap was irrelevant information, other than the FBI may have guessed
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jan 2021

that someone who knows him has seen him wearing it likely many times.

When I first looked at the guy’s picture, he reminded me of the loud, arrogant assholes that I have dealt with in life, that feeling was instantaneous. My guess is that guy has rubbed a lot of people that know him the wrong way and those people likely tripped over themselves to be the first to turn him in to the FBI. My guess is you read about him being arrested in the next few hours, or being found dead from self inflicted injury.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
63. Yup. Ex-wife got the Air Force guy.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jan 2021

It’s the people that know him that’s gonna get him. Not a bunch of us be-on-the-lookout motherfuckers.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
61. Someone will recognize his raindrop face eventually.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jan 2021

Wide at the bottom, sloping to to a point at his head.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
65. What the heck is the thick-looking collar around his neck?
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:46 PM
Jan 2021

It looks thicker than any shirt or coat collar to me.
Was he wearing body armor?

Like the guy in this image?


Iggo

(49,928 posts)
70. Looks like one of them big warm Pendleton things the guys out in the warehouse wear.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jan 2021

I think that’s a hood.

dclarston13

(441 posts)
66. Chesapeake Fire Dept
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:52 PM
Jan 2021

Has ball caps with a similar logo, but not on caps like that, that I can find.

ffr

(23,399 posts)
71. I always get murder and homocide mixed up. I suppose when he's found, he can clarify it for me.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jan 2021
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