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Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:50 PM

I hope Biden changes his mind about traveling by train to DC

We're all aware of his affinity for train travel and it is a great symbolic event - in any other time. I did a search and it appears that the trip that was planned before the Capitol insurrection and the FBI warning about threats is still on:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/12/joe-biden-inauguration-what-we-know-january-20/6629794002/

Going by train is unlike any other mode of transportation he could take. Trains can't veer off the tracks or stop quickly and back up. Some of the terrorists are adept at building bombs. A bomb or bombs could be planted or buried beforehand at multiple locations and detonated by remote control. They don't have to be right there. It is a 100 mile trip. There is no way they can check out the entire areas of 100 miles of track. Anyone who thinks it's not a big deal and LE will take care of it, hasn't been paying attention.

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Reply I hope Biden changes his mind about traveling by train to DC (Original post)
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 OP
SheltieLover Jan 2021 #1
still_one Jan 2021 #2
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #4
Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #3
Pachamama Jan 2021 #5
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #6
Pachamama Jan 2021 #9
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #10
Pachamama Jan 2021 #40
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #41
Pachamama Jan 2021 #42
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #44
Pachamama Jan 2021 #46
dutch777 Jan 2021 #7
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #8
dutch777 Jan 2021 #27
soothsayer Jan 2021 #11
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #15
soothsayer Jan 2021 #23
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #28
BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #12
Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #13
Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #14
Deuxcents Jan 2021 #16
cwydro Jan 2021 #37
brooklynite Jan 2021 #17
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #21
soothsayer Jan 2021 #25
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #30
soothsayer Jan 2021 #34
brooklynite Jan 2021 #29
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #32
Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #18
Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #19
Chainfire Jan 2021 #20
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #22
FSogol Jan 2021 #24
soothsayer Jan 2021 #26
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #31
cwydro Jan 2021 #38
lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #33
soothsayer Jan 2021 #35
Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #36
dalton99a Jan 2021 #39
wishstar Jan 2021 #43
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #45
Akacia Jan 2021 #47
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #49
Livbaker Jan 2021 #48
Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #50

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:51 PM

1. Me too!!!

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:51 PM

2. I suspect he will follow whatever the security recommends

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Response to still_one (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:53 PM

4. I hope they advise him to find another way to DC

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:52 PM

3. It would be good to let this ride out in the

public and keep the real plan on a need to know basis.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:53 PM

5. Don't worry - he gets Marine One Helicopter soon

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:54 PM

6. That would be AFTER the train trip

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:56 PM

9. I predict the train trip isn't happening

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:57 PM

10. Hope you are right

I just hand't seen it talked about since the announcement of this plan.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:05 AM

40. I am right

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #40)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:07 AM

41. And I was right to question the wisdom of it

Glad they decided not to do it.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:11 AM

42. Yes you were

I am the daughter of an intelligence and anti-terrorism expert. Growing up and discussing with him many of the topics related to terrorism and security events over the decades, I am very aware and conscious of security risks and there was no question in my mind that they would be canceling it.

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:14 AM

44. Thanks, I hoped and figured they would

But was surprised that no one was discussing it. Some of the 'oh it's no big deal' responses were expected but had me shaking my head. I'm just glad they are taking all the precautions they are now.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #44)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:19 AM

46. I predict he will helicopter in

I also wouldn't be surprised if at last minute he is sworn in either inside the Capitol or not in the Capitol and instead in another historically relevant location that suddenly at last minute with the streaming online inaugural is announced.

Magat's and Q-Nuts and Militias will be very disappointed and surprised if they show up where they think they can disrupt - only to be facing the mighty force of our military and also be fooled.

And if there are moles or traitors in Congress or military that try to reveal - they will be caught.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:54 PM

7. Dumb idea for all the reasons you state plus they shouldn't be saying anything about...

...any of his travel arrangements or precise details of his schedule...same for Kamala and now I suppose Nancy. Maybe put Mitch's details out there, Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz, Hawley, Brooks...that would be okay.

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Response to dutch777 (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:56 PM

8. I agree

And I don't understand the attitude of 'don't worry it'll be ok' after what has happened.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:13 PM

27. I think Biden and others don't want to look like things are not "normal"

And to some degree I don't want to see an over response or military in the streets either as that is exactly what we didn't want Trump to do. I think one can be prudent and calm about things but be quiet and prepared for anything. I think having a "normal" presence of police properly equipped this time in public view and if things get gnarly, there are quick reaction teams ready in buildings and garages very close to where they need to be with overwhelming force and well armed. I think running scared, hiding and putting the army in the streets hands the bad guys a victory. I wish I understood why we underact and then overact to this degree, just prepare for the worst and be quiet about it. If any of these threats of armed action from bad actors comes about, and I think it will but to a very limited degree by only the total whackadoodles, I really want to see them surrounded and brought to their knees rights then and there. Not the post on line, get a beer and burger and go get on a plane and go home and find them later. I think now that there is clear preparation and they realize they could end up in jail without their organic food diet and their cellphones, most of them will go back to sulking in mom's basement. Not that that isn't a long term issue too but at least it allows us time to get things up and going with sanity at the helm.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:58 PM

11. I think it'll be fine

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:01 PM

15. Same reaction people had on here befoe Jan. 6

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:11 PM

23. Well I was one. And that would have been fine with adequate security

I trust Inauguration Day will have that.

Plus I imagine the arrests and firings are dampening enthusiasm for many of the participants, and itís slightly harder (maybe) for them to coordinate. That leaves the hardcore, who of course are the worst of the lot, so itís still worrisome. But not as much, for me anyway.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:16 PM

28. But there wasn't adequate security

And this thread isn't about protecting DC, which they are worried about:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/congress-briefing-us-capitol-threats/index.html

It's about protecting 100 miles of train tracks on a mode of transportation that doesn't allow for escape. If you can't understand the difference I see why you're not worried.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:59 PM

12. I'm sure he will consult with the secret service.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:01 PM

13. I agree

but I think ultimately itís up to Biden and if he wants to take the risk then Iíll accept it. But Iíll be nervous the whole time heís on the train.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:01 PM

14. FUCK IT! JUST FUCK IT!

WTF are people thinking? The secret service should categorically forbid it. This is endangering their lives too.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:01 PM

16. Don't be telegraphing plans for anyone

Itís too bad our big celebration cannot happen and the big deal of the inauguration has to be in secret. Another tradition stomped on by this maniac.

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Response to Deuxcents (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:33 PM

37. I hadn't heard that the inauguration will be "in secret."

Can you provide a link to that information?

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:02 PM

17. I'm sure the Secret Service has considered this issues and is acting accordingly.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:07 PM

21. It's still on

No one who has added these "it's nothing to worry about" reactions has posted any answers as to how a government that is worried about protecting a centralized area like the Capitol can protect 100 miles of track. Sorry if I'm not reassured that the SS or other agencies are on top of things.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:12 PM

25. They COULD have protected the capitol just fine

They didnít, but they could have.

Iím believing they will protect things on Inauguration Day.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:17 PM

30. Well if yo believe it then there is nothing to worry about

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:20 PM

34. Ha. I'm sending my wishful thinking, but I think they shot their wad at the Capitol

If theyíd waited, who knows.

NOW there will be adequate security. Forewarned is forearmed.

Certainly there was funny business interfering with the Capitol, but it wonít be allowed to happen again.

99% sure.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:17 PM

29. In the 1970s, Nixon travelled by train to Florida...

In addition to inspections and guarding the ROW, they sent a train AHEAD of and BEHIND Nixon's. They know what they're doing.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:19 PM

32. Not even remotely close to the same situation

I bet you had the same reaction before Jan. 6.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:03 PM

18. K&R

Train tracks, bridges, tunnels are extremely vulnerable.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:05 PM

19. No way. That is letting the terrorists win.

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:06 PM

20. I do not expect Biden to run an hide.

He should do what he thinks is best after listening to his security team. I will support his decision.

The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize, we can't hand the bastards psychological victories and expect them to stop.

This is not yet the beginning of Biden's hard road. I hope he is up to it. It may be the most difficult presidency in our history, but certainly since Lincoln.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:08 PM

22. I don't want him to run and hide either

But as Gen. McCaffrey said, there are times to make smart decisions. There are other times and other ways to show strength. This isn't one.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:12 PM

24. Security 101: Announce one itinerary and method of travel, change at last minute.

Last edited Tue Jan 12, 2021, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't worry, Biden is surrounded by good people.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:13 PM

26. This.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:18 PM

31. That's fine if it's not by train

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:35 PM

38. Maybe you should get in touch with the Biden team.

You seem to have a lot of good info that Iím sure they really, really need.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:20 PM

33. Secret Service can't secure a train. Puts the whole train at risk.

I hope he arrives silently under cover of darkness. I'd like to see the inauguration happen below ground in the sit room. Honestly.

Put all of the gop no reps out on the steps, and see what happens.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:23 PM

35. I'd be totally happy if he did it in his basement

But I respect his decision to proceed with normalcy (and caution. Heís not stupid).

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:31 PM

36. Me too!

My oldest brother's gang of young friends even managed to derail a train!

They didn't think that would happen, though, and thankfully nobody was hurt.

My brother was out of town with our parents at the time, but was told about it as his friends directed him to see it. Heavy equipment was already there to help put the train back on the tracks.

Then a group of investigators appeared from around the train as the conductor with them yelled, "That's them! Those are the damn kids who did it!"

The kids were surprised and frozen, and then the conductor pointed his finger in my brother's face and exclaimed, "And I KNOW he was there!" (Lol, he was the ONLY kid who wasn't there when it happened.)

They weren't even detained! They were asked for their names and addresses, and the first kid gave the information for some innocent neighborhood kid that he didn't like. Then everyone else did the same.

That was around 1960 or so.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:36 PM

39. Kick

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:12 AM

43. He has cancelled train trip in ali news reports I have seen earlier today Jan 14th

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Response to wishstar (Reply #43)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:16 AM

45. Yes that was announced yesterday n/t

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:21 AM

47. I am so tired of all this!

It pisses me off no end that I felt so much relief after Biden won, until the biggest loser started with his BS about the election being stolen and my peace of mind was once again taken away. Can`t this nightmare end already? I hate that Trump and his minions are raining on Bidens parade.

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Response to Akacia (Reply #47)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:33 AM

49. Me too

Dump's final ripoff. Biden deserves everything every other President got, although I'm sure he is more concerned with fixing the country. Hopefully he can take the train when he wins re-election.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:22 AM

48. I feel sad that Biden

can't have the true Inauguration experience he earned.

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Response to Livbaker (Reply #48)

Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:34 AM

50. I do too

And he definitely earned it. But the important thing is our country is back in capable hands.

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