Ireland's 'brutally misogynistic culture' saw the death of 9,000 children in mother and baby homes,

[Demovictory9]

Thousands of babies and children died in 18 of Ireland's mother and baby homes -- church-run institutions where unmarried women were sent to deliver their babies in secret, often against their will -- over eight decades, according to a landmark report.

On Tuesday, the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes and Certain Related Matters -- which was set up to investigate what happened in 14 mother and baby homes and four county homes from 1922 to 1998 -- announced the 9,000 deaths as part of the final findings of its near six-year inquiry.

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One in seven of those children (15%) didn't survive long enough to leave the homes, yet no alarm was raised by the State over the high mortality rates, even though it was "known to local and national authorities" and was "recorded in official publications," the report found.
Prior to 1960, mother and baby homes "did not save the lives of 'illegitimate' children; in fact, they appear to have significantly reduced their prospects of survival," it said.

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During her time at the Sean Ross Abbey mother and baby home, Lee said that she was "deprived" of her liberty, independence and autonomy, and was "subject to the tyranny of the nuns," who told mothers daily that they were to atone for their sins by "working for our keep and surrendering our children to the nuns for forced adoption."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/europe/ireland-mother-baby-homes-final-report-intl/index.html

[IcyPeas]

1. Joni Mitchell - The Magdalene Laundries (with lyrics)

[OnDoutside]

2. My mother in law grew up in a house that backed onto a

Mother and Baby home run by the nuns, where the women or inmates worked in the Magdalene laundry. Many never left, effectively slave labour.

If you want an example as to why Mass attendance has dropped from about 90% to around 30%, it's the exposure of scandals like this. And it will go lower as the elderly die off.

[Demovictory9]

7. Pro life unless the baby is born out if wedlock

[OnDoutside]

9. Yes, hypocrites to the last. Thankfully we are moving beyond that and

I well remember the revulsion by good living people towards the Catholic church here, starting with the"Holy Joe" clergy like Fr Michael Clearly who would reach into the other side of the confession box and drag young women out by the hair. These women had come to confess their sin of being pregnant out of wedlock. And then he'd head back to the parish house for dinner with his housekeeper and their two children !

[stopdiggin]

3. human history is pockmarked with ugly times and incidents

these institutions (and the Catholic Church) -- please step forward to be awarded your prize.

(the heart just crumbles into pieces ....)
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[Guy Whitey Corngood]

4. K&Fuckin' R

[mopinko]

5. i wont be satisfied til the vatican art collection is on the auction block. and yes that includes

the naughty bits in the basement.

[chowder66]

6. More...

But for many, that apology will not be enough.

Lohan ​told CNN that she disagrees with the planned state apology, saying that ​no apology should be issued until survivors have had a chance to read and digest the Commission's findings, which could take many weeks.

She also suggested that an apology should be the first of a series of several, noting that the commission's investigations only covered 18 institutions, while some 180 sites were part of an Irish system that facilitated ​child neglect, premature death, forced adoptions, enforced disappearances, enforced labor, the stripping of identities, the falsification of state documents and the forging of mothers' ​consents.

The report does not ​appear to fully address the allegations of forced or illegal adoptions, only stating that "many allegations have been made that large sums of money were given to the institutions and agencies in Ireland that arranged foreign adoptions. Such allegations are impossible to prove and impossible to disprove."

[Hekate]

8. KnR