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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:42 AM Jan 2021

"Every panic button in my office had been torn out -- the whole unit," she said, though they could co


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Olga Lautman
@OlgaNYC1211
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Jan 13, 2021
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"members of Congress leading people through the Capitol on Jan. 5 in what she termed a "reconnaissance for the next day" when insurrectionists took part in a deadly siege on the legislative branch."

Olga Lautman
@OlgaNYC1211
“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then."
https://bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/nation/it-was-like-looking-evil-capitol-attack-through-eyes-massachusetts-delegation/?outputType=amp
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"Every panic button in my office had been torn out -- the whole unit," she said, though they could co (Original Post) soothsayer Jan 2021 OP
Well this certainly begs the question, who removed the panic buttons and why? tetedur Jan 2021 #1
Thank you for posting that link Rorey Jan 2021 #2
Be interesting to see what shows up on... Maxheader Jan 2021 #3
Hers were already missing on the day of the insurrection soothsayer Jan 2021 #4
Exactly. tetedur Jan 2021 #6
Those reconnaisance sorties may have led to the laptop thefts. Ret Lt Col Brock exited Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #5
+1 Mike 03 Jan 2021 #10
the laptops are useless to the thieves.... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #13
Thank you. Your scenarios make good sense and are very reassuring. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #14
Plus typically not fooled Jan 2021 #17
Conspiracy charges are no joke... Jon King Jan 2021 #7
Yup, there is a top down conspiracy and a small swarm of bottom-up conspiracies Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #15
Now the lawmakers know what it's like to be hunted onlyadream Jan 2021 #8
No soothsayer Jan 2021 #9
No. llmart Jan 2021 #11
Prime example is Lindsey Graham who yell at a Capitol cop to give them (him) more protection. tikka Jan 2021 #12
Absolutely. llmart Jan 2021 #16
Repubs? I doubt it. Dems? Already know. Hekate Jan 2021 #18

tetedur

(820 posts)
1. Well this certainly begs the question, who removed the panic buttons and why?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:00 AM
Jan 2021

If I were a member I certainly would make it my business to find out who decided to remove this safety feature.

If they were trying to make the members helpless, they were a part of the insurrection.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. Thank you for posting that link
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:10 AM
Jan 2021

I went on to read the article on Boebert. We Coloradans need to get her the hell out.

tetedur

(820 posts)
6. Exactly.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:31 AM
Jan 2021

This wasn't the invading group. This was maintenance? People responsible for hardware or safety inside the Capital?

What a betrayal.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
5. Those reconnaisance sorties may have led to the laptop thefts. Ret Lt Col Brock exited
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:20 AM
Jan 2021

Brock photo'd exiting Speaker's office just as the main group arrived there.

Some focused groups, perhaps Brock's, were fast. They may have been let in by renegade Capitol Police when a door on the side of the building was opened.

Key parts of this may have been planned.



Curved yellow lines mark barricades.

Play by play: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/benking/capitol-dc-riot-trump

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
13. the laptops are useless to the thieves....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jan 2021

Gov't laptops are encrypted. To use one, you have to insert your id and when you leave you take the id with you (it is your key to locks in the uilding - you can't forget it).

It would take a superpower level crack to gain access to the data. Additionally, they all have tracking hardware that will ping their locations the minute they are turned on, even if the hard drive has been removed.

It isn't a security threat.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. Plus typically
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jan 2021

the contents of the hard drive are backed up daily (every night).

So, should be easy for the data to be recovered.

Too bad, turds who stole them.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
7. Conspiracy charges are no joke...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:38 AM
Jan 2021

Once this unravels and the new DOJ can figure out who was involved in planning, federal conspiracy charges will result in long, long prison sentences. All for a 2 bit cowardly conman.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
15. Yup, there is a top down conspiracy and a small swarm of bottom-up conspiracies
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jan 2021

The top-down conspiracy has a lot of semi-plausible deniability built in, because they are clever. A lot of winks and nods. But put it all together and cracks start to appear, until in the end it doesn't fool courts.

The bottom-up conspiracies are easier to prove, generally, but they depend on numbers and make some attempts to use hidden ways. Parler was a big oops.

A few bottom-ups are peopled by clever people like Zip Tie Guy #1 and #2 who were part of separate groups. In their case, they couldn't help themselves but make themselves distinctive from the rest of the mob with their tactical gear.

The bottom-ups are mostly peopled with whites who depend on their white privilege. So, frankly, if you are a white at the bottom, then you are much more likely to be stupid because you don't have lack of privilege as an excuse and despite all the barriers, Western societies have lots of room for talent to rise. So the bottom-ups are starting to turn bottoms up as the investigations turn over more rocks.

onlyadream

(2,168 posts)
8. Now the lawmakers know what it's like to be hunted
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:28 AM
Jan 2021

I wonder if they will think of how horrible this is for children in their schools to have to hide and wait for it to be over. Praying they don’t get found. I know the Dems get it, but will this experience sway any Republicans?

llmart

(15,552 posts)
11. No.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jan 2021

They are self-serving people. They only care when it happens to them. They can't expand their thinking to something akin to "this has really opened my eyes to why we need stricter gun laws". The most they could come up with would be "I'm going to make a push for stricter gun laws for the Capitol because I work there".

It's called lack of empathy and GOPers have it in spades.

llmart

(15,552 posts)
16. Absolutely.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jan 2021

However, Graham is an example of someone with no moral compass whatsoever. He just goes with whichever way the wind is blowing.

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