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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:16 PM

Why does no one consider the "All Democrats are Communists" people as lunatic fringe?

Seriously . . . this frame of mind is practically mainstreamed.

What if I were to say "ALL Republicans are hateful, extremely bigoted Fascist reactionaries who worship corporations"?? I'd be rightfully admonished by people even on my side and called much worse by those targeted for such a broadbrush.

So why is it perfectly all right, no one batting an eyelash or raising one fuss, when "All Democrats are Communists!" or some variation of it comes spewing out of a TeaHadist's mouth?

Don't believe me? Ask any garden variety Republican, RIGHT NOW, if they think this is true. Think you'll get an answer like "well, no, I don't belive that they're all (insert red bait insult)s, that's crazy."???

We pretty much give them their own segments on news shows (Victoria Jackson, Bernie Marcus on CNBC, etc), Faux or otherwise.

A Communist likely wouldn't BE a member of any mainstreamed American political party.

When the red-baiters should be in the same league as birthers, their bullshit is seen as normal instead. And that is something I have a huge fucking problem with.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:18 PM

1. I suggest that those people are people who lack critical thinking skills, or they themselves are

part of the lunatic fringe



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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:18 PM

2. Why do they all seem to buy the "America is a center right nation" as well?

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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:19 PM

3. The Overton Window has been pushed far to the right in an orchestrated 30 plus year effort.

There has been billions of dollars spent on moving America to the right.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:33 PM

4. Pretty sure Allan West is considered fringe

If not downright insane.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:37 PM

5. The problem with considering America to be a centre right country is that it isn't.

The Presidents and Congress are centre right, but the people tend to be, in most instances, more left of the administrations, no matter what party they are. They've just been brainwashed to think they are centre right!

Por ejemplo, I know at least two Texans who decided, after many long discussions, traveling around the country in a rig, and being exposed to the news all over the nation, that they were, as I had told them, progressives. They had been voting Republican because that's what ya do in Texas, eh? Their inner democrat finally came out, as did their inner atheist and various other things.

People answer those damn surveys and polls as republicans, and they need saving from themselves.

I often think that religion is a big part of that, too; among other things, religion teaches you to believe four impossible things before breakfast, and the ability to believe in the unlikely, the impossible, and the fantastic is improved. Believe in the mythical becomes something to strive for and embrace; after all, it's a small price to pay for eternal life.

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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:57 PM

7. It's fucking silly and fringe no matter what degree you're red-baiting at.

Socialism and Marxism aren't "extremist", damn it.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:01 PM

9. I would disagree. I think die-hard Marxism, on the US Political Spectrum, is an outlier position.

And it should not be conflated with "socialism", which can be taken to mean everything from a European-style social safety net to a single payer health care system, which I would agree, the support of which is not extremist.

But the people who bring copies of Das Kapital with them into the voting booths? Honestly, there aren't a lot of them.

Whereas the crazies in the GOP, not only are there a lot of them, but they make up the wholly implacable nutjob base which ANY candidate must appease to survive a primary.

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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:58 PM

8. Yes, there are probably about 7 or 8 die hard Marxists in the Democratic Party, whereas half the GOP

Thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, Jesus rode a Dinosaur, and believes women should be put in prison for taking birth control pills.

Yes, clearly. There are "some extremists". But what you've done, here, is establish the classic "false equivalency". There is no false equivalency when one party, i.e. the GOP, has spent the past couple decades taking the express train to crazytown.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:34 PM

10. I don't like the fact that some of these fuckers also own guns.

They consider the 2nd amendment the only right.

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