Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:17 PM
MelissaB (15,843 posts)
*30 lawmakers asking Capitol security officials for details, say reported suspicions visits on 5thUPDATE: 30 lawmakers are now asking Capitol security officials for details on which lawmakers or staffers allowed visitors into the Capitol on Jan. 5.
They say they witnessed "suspicious" visits and even reported them the day before the violence. Link to tweet ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
47 replies, 8927 views
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
MelissaB | Jan 13 | OP |
Hugin | Jan 13 | #1 | |
dem4decades | Jan 13 | #2 | |
Dark n Stormy Knight | Jan 14 | #38 | |
malaise | Jan 13 | #3 | |
OldBaldy1701E | Jan 14 | #40 | |
dalton99a | Jan 13 | #4 | |
Nevilledog | Jan 13 | #7 | |
Guilded Lilly | Jan 13 | #8 | |
soldierant | Jan 13 | #21 | |
Guilded Lilly | Jan 13 | #26 | |
MagickMuffin | Jan 13 | #5 | |
COL Mustard | Jan 13 | #32 | |
MagickMuffin | Jan 13 | #36 | |
MyMission | Jan 15 | #45 | |
COL Mustard | Jan 15 | #46 | |
Arne | Jan 13 | #6 | |
KS Toronado | Jan 13 | #30 | |
Nevilledog | Jan 13 | #9 | |
moondust | Jan 13 | #10 | |
LiberalLovinLug | Jan 13 | #11 | |
COL Mustard | Jan 13 | #33 | |
JustAnotherGen | Jan 13 | #12 | |
Stuart G | Jan 13 | #13 | |
triron | Jan 13 | #14 | |
halfulglas | Jan 13 | #15 | |
BadgerMom | Jan 13 | #16 | |
patphil | Jan 13 | #17 | |
JudyM | Jan 13 | #29 | |
patphil | Jan 13 | #37 | |
NBachers | Jan 13 | #18 | |
Dyedinthewoolliberal | Jan 13 | #19 | |
58Sunliner | Jan 13 | #20 | |
Mr. Ected | Jan 13 | #22 | |
bullimiami | Jan 16 | #47 | |
zentrum | Jan 13 | #23 | |
malaise | Jan 13 | #24 | |
PatSeg | Jan 13 | #25 | |
Tanuki | Jan 13 | #27 | |
burrowowl | Jan 13 | #28 | |
ARPad95 | Jan 13 | #31 | |
paleotn | Jan 13 | #34 | |
bearssoapbox | Jan 13 | #35 | |
bucolic_frolic | Jan 14 | #39 | |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Jan 14 | #41 | |
BrightKnight | Jan 14 | #42 | |
Cha | Jan 14 | #43 | |
scarletwoman | Jan 15 | #44 |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:18 PM
Hugin (27,426 posts)
1. Keep an eye on this...
Now that all of the GrOPpers are 'on the record'.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:19 PM
dem4decades (7,195 posts)
2. That Capitol has more cameras than a casino, what do the tapes reveal?
Response to dem4decades (Reply #2)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:07 AM
Dark n Stormy Knight (8,623 posts)
38. Do they? I assume & hope so. But the news reports I've seen on this
haven't mentioned the cameras.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:21 PM
malaise (223,897 posts)
3. This is huge
No wonder they're babbling so much bullshit on the House floor right now.
Lock them all up. Never have I seen such obfuscation. |
Response to malaise (Reply #3)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:41 PM
OldBaldy1701E (680 posts)
40. Hear Hear! (n/t)
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:23 PM
dalton99a (58,275 posts)
4. Those questions must be answered ASAP.
Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:29 PM
Nevilledog (20,339 posts)
7. Based on those questions, they already know the answers.
Response to Nevilledog (Reply #7)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:42 PM
Guilded Lilly (5,053 posts)
8. Indeed. They know. n/t
Response to Guilded Lilly (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:06 PM
soldierant (1,695 posts)
21. Well, many of them are lawyers.
Isn't the first rule of lawyering in the courtroom "Never ask a question to which you don't know the answer"?
|
Response to soldierant (Reply #21)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:20 PM
Guilded Lilly (5,053 posts)
26. (Not even close to being a lawyer but that certainly is the rule I've heard!)
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:26 PM
MagickMuffin (11,233 posts)
5. If YES, you will provide that information ASAP
Sorry but asking will you leaves the door open for a no nope not gonna happen. However, hopefully with new leadership they will comply. |
Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #5)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:06 PM
COL Mustard (903 posts)
32. Remember That The Sergeants At Arms And The Chief of USCP Work For Congress
Answers will be forthcoming. I guarantee it (to coin a phrase).
|
Response to COL Mustard (Reply #32)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:55 PM
MagickMuffin (11,233 posts)
36. Yeah, and plus I don't own a law degree.
They know what language to use. |
Response to COL Mustard (Reply #32)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:04 AM
MyMission (512 posts)
45. Remember that both Senate and House SAA's resigned
At the request of their leadership, after they failed to safeguard the Congress.
Will they be cooperative, available for questions, and/or are they complicit, overlooking visitors? Each acting SAA will certainly investigate, but they weren't in charge on day of the insurrection. FBI and law enforcement have been pouring over footage from 1/6. Now they have cause to review the videos of the day before, and days and weeks and months before. This has been planned for a while. I don't think we'll hear anything until after the inauguration, which is only 5 days away! Maybe on President Biden's first full day in office we will get news of arrests or removals from Congress. I say first full day because I don't want to see inauguration day overshadowed by any arrests, unless they are for active insurrection which is expected to happen in many cities. I say news of arrests or removals because they can vote to remove or censure members who are under investigation, before they are arrested. They may get information now, and hold closed sessions to decide and implement their course of action, and we won't know until after that. On the other hand, it would be amazing if tomorrow they announced discovery of evidence implicating the traitors who gave tours and more. But once people are implicated they will need to be investigated and interviewed, building a case. I want these traitors removed from our house ASAP, as I know MOC's do, and look forward to seeing this unfold, like a bizarre horror mystery. This is a developing story. |
Response to MyMission (Reply #45)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:52 AM
COL Mustard (903 posts)
46. I Read Your Profile
You rock!!!
![]() |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:27 PM
Arne (1,724 posts)
6. If this information has been wiped or altered I Will have a heart attack.
Response to Arne (Reply #6)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:02 PM
KS Toronado (2,160 posts)
30. If the videos can't be found, we'll know it was a trumpig "loyalist" covering someone's ass.
Would remind me of Nixon's missing 18 minutes.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:44 PM
Nevilledog (20,339 posts)
9. Rep Sherrill comments about the letter
Link to tweet ?s=21 Link to tweet ?s=21 Tweet text:
Rep. Mikie Sherrill @RepSherrill Today I joined with more than 30 of my colleagues in requesting an investigation from the Acting House SAA, Acting Senate SAA, and USCP into the suspicious behavior and access given to visitors to the Capitol Complex on Jan. 5, 2021 - the day before the attacks on the Capitol. Image Image Image Many of the Members who signed this letter, including those of us who have served in the military and are trained to recognize suspicious activity, as well as various members of our staff, witnessed an extremely high number of outside groups in the complex on Tuesday, January 5. This is unusual for several reasons, including the fact that access to the Capitol Complex has been restricted since public tours ended in March due to the pandemic. We found these tours so concerning that senior staff questioned the SAA on January 5 about what was taking place. 12:35 PM · Jan 13, 2021 |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:46 PM
LiberalLovinLug (12,187 posts)
11. And did this have a connection to Ayanna Pressley's panic buttons removed from her office?
Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #11)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:07 PM
COL Mustard (903 posts)
33. Ko-in-kee-dink
Nothing more......and in case it wasn't clear.......
![]() |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:53 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,267 posts)
12. Congressman Malinowski is not playing around
He knows his constituents are worried for him - and the nation.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:53 PM
Stuart G (29,450 posts)
13. The FBI will figure this out, and the insiders will be arrested, tried and convicted.
Too obvious to ignore, and all so easy to prove....Who, what..why..and When...?
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:00 PM
halfulglas (209 posts)
15. They want to get this on multiple records.
Rep. Sherrill and the others want to make sure the information doesn't get disappeared. The more this knowledge is disseminated, the less chance somehow the records get "accidentally erased" by some unknown underling. Oops, sorry about that, can't find it. If they somehow didn't sign those visitors in, we have to know why, although I doubt they were allowed in without signing in. If so, that in itself was deliberate. All this is going into the history books so we better have records that reflect the truth.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:03 PM
BadgerMom (2,078 posts)
16. I hope the findings of these investigations aren't shielded by Republicans.
Control of both Houses of Congress and the Presidency is so important. After 4 harrowing years of lies, gaslighting and cover-ups, I’m more skeptical of Republicans and their motives than ever. Without Dem control of government I’m sure there would be no transparency.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:06 PM
patphil (1,885 posts)
17. This is becoming more and more of a planned action to overthrow the government each day.
No wonder the insurgents seemed to know exactly where they were going. The had inside help in mapping out the areas to attack.
And I wonder how many more members of Congress besides Congresswoman Pressley had panic buttons removed from their offices. And I wonder how many Republican Representatives knew what was going to happen on January 6th. I think we are looking at a pretty large conspiracy to, not just block the installation of Biden and Harris as President and Vice-president, but to install Trump as President, while removing the first two people in line for succession, namely Pence and Pelosi. I think this was meant to be the end of the Republic, and the establishment of a facist dictatorship under Trump. |
Response to patphil (Reply #17)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:55 PM
JudyM (19,945 posts)
29. Who are the players you believe to have masterminded it?
Meaning an actual overthrow & installation attempt
|
Response to JudyM (Reply #29)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:58 PM
patphil (1,885 posts)
37. Don't know, this is speculation on my part based on what appears to have happened.
When at least 34 Representatives sign a letter about suspicious tours, at least one Representative had her office panic buttons removed, a gallows is built to hang the Vice-President, and many of the insurrectionists look like they came ready to do what they did, then it's reasonable to assume you have a conspiracy.
Also reasonable to assume they had sympathetic Congressmen and Congresswomen who were assisting this attempt to halt of the vote. And the only reason they would block the vote would be to keep Trump in power. One doesn't need to know the who of a crime to identify that a crime was committed. That will come later with Justice Department investigation. This whole thing was too big for just Trump though...he isn't that good at planning. And now we see with today's impeachment vote that he still has strong Republican support in the House. I can't for the life of me figure out how 197 Republicans could vote against impeachment at this time. It appears that Trump still has an iron grip on the Republican party. Is it out of fear, or because they believe in what he is trying to do, or both? |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:46 PM
NBachers (13,383 posts)
18. Start ratting each other out you sniveling "caught up in the moment" weasels.
Get down early while the gettin’s good!
Soon it will be time for people to start turning up dead. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:51 PM
Dyedinthewoolliberal (12,584 posts)
19. I'm willing to bet this whole thing was created by Hair Furor and friends.
When the investigation is concluded everyone will agree the baby looks just like him!
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:03 PM
58Sunliner (3,322 posts)
20. I'm beginning to think these people would bring a bomb or hide a weapon for someone.
No one is safe.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:10 PM
Mr. Ected (7,094 posts)
22. How in the world did any of them think they'd get away with it?
The arrogance in the GOP after 4 years of shielding Trump is beyond amazing.
Now let's see if we are, indeed, still a nation of laws or if politics skew law enforcement and criminal justice in ways the Constitution never indicated. |
Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #22)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:32 PM
bullimiami (11,011 posts)
47. trump has no forward thinking only reactive. they all just followed. stupid of them.
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:11 PM
zentrum (9,622 posts)
23. Getting more and more
….coup-like.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:12 PM
malaise (223,897 posts)
24. Kick again
HUGE!
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:14 PM
PatSeg (35,963 posts)
25. K&R for later
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:31 PM
Tanuki (12,258 posts)
27. Presumably there will be security camera footage as well.
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:06 PM
ARPad95 (578 posts)
31. Hmmm, Susan Wild is listed and I think she also ended up on tRumpy's personal hit list.
Last edited Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:43 PM - Edit history (1) [thinking out loud]
How interesting that tRumpy used the very odd phrase, "Be there, will be wild!" on Dec. 20th to summon his MAGATs to the Capitol on Jan 6th. What was happening on Dec. 20th in tRumplandia (i.e., the vast wasteland in his head)? https://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2020/12/20/Donald-Trump-US-Supreme-Court-Pennsylvania-election-results-overturn-petition-Electoral-College-Rudy-Giuliani/stories/202012200136 WASHINGTON — Undeterred by dismissals and admonitions from judges, President Donald Trump’s campaign continued with its unprecedented efforts to overturn the results of the Nov 3. election Sunday, saying it had filed a new petition with the Supreme Court. Who is Susan Wild? https://ballotpedia.org/Susan_Wild Susan Wild (Democratic Party) is a member of the U.S. House, representing Pennsylvania's 7th Congressional District. She assumed office on January 3, 2019. Her current term ends on January 3, 2023. I'm sure the toddler tyrant was seeing red when he relied on swing state, Pennsylvania, to help him overturn the election results and he was being thwarted left and right. The voices in tRumpy's head probably went something like this: "Someone has to pay for this! Who in Pennsylvania is the reason for this humiliation? Why, it's that woman over there representing Pennsylvania's 7th congressional district, a former Republican stronghold. Yeah, she's the one emasculating me and making me look like a loser! How dare she! I'll be sure to slip her name in my summons for the MAGATs to appear in the Capitol on Jan 6th. My loyal codebreakers will know what I mean." [wink, wink] Every sane person was admonished today by the Repukes in the H of R not to take anything tRumpy says literally. Well, I think we can all agree that it definitely got wild in the Capitol on Jan 6th so he was being literal when he used that phrase on Dec. 20th. Even if we give tRumpy the benefit of the doubt and that phrase is not evidence of him preplanning the insurrection, it still begs the question, what does "will be wild" mean? I propose it was code to his insider hitmen (I'm fairly sure he has them) to target Susan Wild. [/thinking out loud] |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:19 PM
paleotn (9,403 posts)
34. What comes out of all this....
will shock even us. It's going to be a wild several weeks to months.
|
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:29 PM
bearssoapbox (1,336 posts)
35. How many rethuglicons offices had their panic buttons "ripped out"?
That might be questions worth asking and getting answers about.
![]() ![]() |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:21 AM
bucolic_frolic (22,479 posts)
39. That's just on the 5th
How about the last few months? Are records kept of who visits?
I would find it curious if they weren't. I had to ID myself at a district home office just to pick up a couple tax forms. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:24 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (60,310 posts)
41. K&R
![]() |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:08 PM
BrightKnight (3,411 posts)
42. Should be automatic event notifications for all wireless events.
Any personal hot spot, SSID, wireless events should be flagged with automated event notifications sent. This is off the shelf stuff and is used in non-sensitive corporate environments everywhere.
This is a secure Government facility with classified information. There are standards for securing and monitoring sites like that. They also have a huge annual budget. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:17 PM
Cha (268,499 posts)
43. Rt TY! & bookmarked!
Response to Cha (Reply #43)
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:46 AM
scarletwoman (31,595 posts)
44. Who is Laura Sessions and where did her information come from?
I don't see any value in this sort of unverified statement posted by a random Twitter user.
|