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DSandra

(999 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:00 PM Jan 2021

This coup attempt would not have happened if White America wasn't so racist

Trump and the MAGATs have been heavily fueled by racism (including white chauvinism) and anxiety of losing their white privileges, especially because of Obama, and can't stand their "white America" being taken away.

IT IS TIME TO END RACISM IN AMERICA. These MAGATs need to accept that America is rooted in ideas and values and NOT race! America is for everyone of every race, gender, religion, etc... and NOT just for one race! If you can't understand someone of a different race or other minority group, that DOES NOT mean that it gives YOU any right to judge them, and especially to do any hostile / harmful action against them!

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This coup attempt would not have happened if White America wasn't so racist (Original Post) DSandra Jan 2021 OP
I would argue that America is rooted in racism and white supremacy. David__77 Jan 2021 #1
100 times THIS Shell_Seas Jan 2021 #2
There were lots of "We Want Our Country Back!" at the Capital building last week. :( madaboutharry Jan 2021 #3
Few if any non-white in Capitol attack photos. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #4
Absolutely, unequivocally, this. Zoonart Jan 2021 #5
Please explain Ali Alexander to me then. cwydro Jan 2021 #6
the exception, a donkey who works for him uponit7771 Jan 2021 #8
Except that poor Boy asshat, whose name I can't remember. cwydro Jan 2021 #10
Enrique Tarrio LeftInTX Jan 2021 #24
Proud Boys use him to claim they aren't racist JonLP24 Jan 2021 #11
Proud Boys "use" him? What? He's got no self? Can't think for himself? cwydro Jan 2021 #14
I agree JonLP24 Jan 2021 #15
The Law of Large Numbers. LanternWaste Jan 2021 #18
Ah, well. Thanks so much! cwydro Jan 2021 #20
This country is built on white supremacy and people are going to work really hard to keep from WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #7
White supremacy. cwydro Jan 2021 #21
Why would it? It's a killer. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #22
+100000000. Simple, concise, and true. Celerity Jan 2021 #23
Well the cult leader bdamomma Jan 2021 #9
Or fucking dumb. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #12
Well said llashram Jan 2021 #13
America is rooted in racism BainsBane Jan 2021 #16
Racism is a favorite tool in their box of tricks. LanternWaste Jan 2021 #17
Honestly, the actual racists in white America aren't the biggest problem. better Jan 2021 #19
And Rupert Murdoch with his big "bullhorn" Duppers Jan 2021 #25

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
3. There were lots of "We Want Our Country Back!" at the Capital building last week. :(
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:03 PM
Jan 2021

That chant makes my blood boil. It is ugly code.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
11. Proud Boys use him to claim they aren't racist
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jan 2021

I'm surprised to see that argument at DU.

Proud Boys Infighting Sees Leading Member Form Breakaway Group to Fight 'White Genocide'

Infighting has broken out between two leading members of the Proud Boys group, with one announcing he will be taking control of the far-right organization to address "White Genocide" and the "failures of multiculturalism."

White nationalist Kyle Chapman—who set up the "tactical defense arm" of the Proud Boys, the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights (FOAK)—has criticized the group's chairman Enrique Tarrio while announcing a so-called rebranding of the organization.

Writing on encrypted messaging app Telegram, Chapman used racial slurs against Tarrio and other neo-Nazi rhetoric while announcing that the "grifting leaders" had been deposed and the group would be renamed the Proud Goys. The term "goy"—a Hebrew word for a non-Jewish person—is sometimes used by white supremacists to signal their anti-Semitic beliefs, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

"Due to the recent failure of Proud Boy Chairman Enrique Tarrio to conduct himself with honor and courage on the battlefield, it has been decided that I Kyle Chapman reassume my post as President of Proud Boys effective immediately," Chapman wrote. "Our logo will forthwith be changed to reflect the core beliefs of Proud Boy members.

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-based-stickman-enrique-tarrio-goys-1546597

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. Proud Boys "use" him? What? He's got no self? Can't think for himself?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

Wtf does that mean?

I find it difficult to believe that the Poor Boys are smarter than anyone. Sounds like Enrique screwed himself, just like the rest of the idiots he hangs with.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
7. This country is built on white supremacy and people are going to work really hard to keep from
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jan 2021

dismantling that framework.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
9. Well the cult leader
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

was a racist himself, he got them in a lather. Hates Brown, Gays, Blacks, Women.....you get the picture.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
13. Well said
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

President Obama did scare the living the shit out of racist RW America. For 8 years their fear of President Obama was palpable in their social media. I always wondered how we could go from an excellent representative voice of the American people to a voice coming from 180 degrees in the other direction from democracy that represented racism, sexism, fascism. In one fell swoop. Right after President Obama.

Well, many millions have followed the RW standard-bearer, this cult leader, right over the precipice into a morass of legal trouble many will be years digging out from under. And they deserve to be under trumps huge pile of s***.

America is for all of us, not some idealized white supremacy fantasy land where all non-white are beholden to the white master. Those days are long gone.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Racism is a favorite tool in their box of tricks.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:34 PM
Jan 2021

Racism is inarguably inherently bad. Exploiting that same racism for power is arguably worse.

better

(884 posts)
19. Honestly, the actual racists in white America aren't the biggest problem.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jan 2021

The biggest problem in white America are the staggering number of white folk who as yet fail to recognize that the reason they were led to believe many of the things they believe, upon the basis of which they have been manipulated to oppose the things they oppose, IS, in fact, racism, despite however it may have been packaged and advertised to them...

Whether or not said individual white American actually shares the racism to perpetuate which their beliefs and positions have been manipulated.

That's how we can end up with movements like MAGA, or at least some parts of the coalition, welcoming folks like Ali Alexander or what's-his-face from the Insecure Toddlers. On paper, the issue is voter fraud, not race, so their race does not automatically make them an enemy to other people who believe the same shit, fed to them for the same reason. At least not to those who are not actually racist. But that doesn't change the underlying beliefs and positions themselves actually being rooted in racism, and designed to perpetuate white supremacy.

In short, we have a *comparatively* small number of actual racists in white America.
But we have a staggering number of people who allow themselves to be/remain useful idiots to racists.

Now that's not to excuse them from the consequences of their ignorance, be it willful or merely as a product of negligence, but I do think it is important for us to recognize that we face two very distinct problems when it comes to the perpetuation of racism, because not embracing it does not mean that you are not perpetuating it.



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