Steve Schmidt now on msnbc nt

[spooky3]

[spooky3]

1. "There will be no unity with seditionists"

[malaise]

2. Looked up when I heard that

[spooky3]

3. Hi malaise!

[elleng]

4. thx

'Throw the deadweight overboard.'

[nolabear]

5. Where the heck is he?

Last couple times I've seen him it looks like Nighttime on Safari.

[spooky3]

6. Could be a fake background, because there's an echo

Though he appears to be on a patio.

[nolabear]

11. Where? Florida? What patio is that warm? Sorry for the fascination.

You're right about the echo.

[spooky3]

13. From the shots in his house at other times,

I thought he might live in Arizona.

[jcgoldie]

20. Yeah he usually has snowy mountains in the background at his house

He must be on vacation.

Just wish Steve would stop being so ambivalent and tell us how he really feels about Donald Trump sometime...

[spooky3]

7. Righteous rant and call to action - catch it on repeat if you can.

[spooky3]

9. Si! Nt

[PlanetBev]

10. If that patio is real

I’ll bet he’s decompressed on that hammock many a time. He’s been righteously pissed for a long time.

[mysteryowl]

12. Wow, it is a filibuster

This is longest speech I have ever seen on the news.

if you want to listen...
https://www.livenewsmag.com/msnbc-news-live-stream/

[spooky3]

18. But it was very good. I disagree only that

This started only 4 years ago, but Steve probably doesn’t want to accept that he had a role in Repub politics before then. This goes back to the Reagan era.

[mysteryowl]

24. No, you are right, I have heard Steve take responsibility for his role in creating the mess

we are in. He sits with a different position now.

[CatWoman]

14. Steve is not fucking around

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

[mnmoderatedem]

15. he's pulling no punches as usual

really liking the guy.

I mean he's a democrat now!

[JHB]

17. I'm going to get crapped on for complaining about Steve Schmidt being the party spokesman...

...aren't I?

NBC couldn't get an actual Democrat to say this, not Mr. "Signed up 5 minutes ago"?

[SharonClark]

19. He wasn't speaking as a rep of the Democratic Party.

He was saying that the Lincoln Project is going to work on getting Hawley out of Congress.

[JHB]

21. Ok, so which Democrat do they have on saying "no unity with seditionists"?

[spooky3]

22. Who is stopping any of their Dem guests from saying that? Nt

[JHB]

23. Well, since you're obviously watching it and I'm not, why don't you tell me who they have on?

[spooky3]

25. As you surely know, Nicolle Wallace has LOTS of

Dem guests. Jason Johnson, John Heilmann, Ari Melber, and several Dem Congresspersons were on previously, as just a few examples.

[JHB]

27. In other words, academics, analysts and journalists...

...not activists or wordsmiths who are inclined to actually hit the Republicans and call them the bad guys that they are. The people who can deliver a simple strong message.

That part, the one that will get quoted and shared all over the place and keep it's author in the limelight, gets left to the "ex-"Republican.

[JI7]

31. The people they have on do call them the bad guys they are

[spooky3]

32. I really don't get posts like this. You began the conversation by saying that

you thought people would criticize you for saying you don't like Steve Schmidt. But when they didn't, you didn't seem satisfied. You then moved the goalposts to criticize MSNBC for having the "wrong" Democrats on. If you really think MSNBC needs to change the invitations, you should write to them. If you just want to argue, fine, but I don't, so this is the last of my replies to you.

[JHB]

38. Then let me explain my frame of mind, whether you decide to reply or not.

Right now in GD, there are three separate threads eagerly reporting on Schmidt's resolute words. I don't think there are any devoted to what the other guests have to say.

I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about the prominence being given to NeverTrumpers for basically regurgitating liberal analysis of the Republicans and firebrand words leveled at them over the past 10, 20, 30 years.

Their high profile makes them the common reference point, the one the widest number of people will be familiar with.

That also gives them the lead when discussions turn to what's "reasonable" vs what's "extreme", what's "center" vs what's "far left".

As a "take the best of the New Deal and modernize it" liberal who's been repeatedly categorized as "radical leftist" by allegedly "reasonable" Republicans, I have a certain skepticism about allowing them to entrench themselves in such positions.

We have plenty of people who can deliver hard-hitting lines against the GOP. We would behoove ourselves to develop in-house talent over a guy who is on our side mostly because that's where he smells a paycheck.

[JI7]

46. Why don't you start a thread about others ? People like him what he says

which is why there are always threads on him which actually get lots of responses.

[JI7]

26. He is a paid contributor. But as long as someone is saying the right thing who gives a shit

who it is.

People have things to do .

[JHB]

28. Yes. People have things to do. Steve has a check to collect from NBC.

However, I have a real problem with Republicans being the strong, attention-getting voices of the Democratic Party.

The election is won. Whatever happened to "and then we'll drop them"?

I don't want Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson being the people who get on TV all the time opining about where the "reasonable center" is.

[JI7]

29. Schmidt is a Democrat and I never said I' dropping anyone that continues to support the right issues

You think we should get rid of Elizabeth Warren also ?

No thanks.

[JHB]

33. Warren has been a Democrat in good standing for many years and has fought the good fight

Schmidt signed up mere weeks ago, after a career of helping vandalize our politics. Even as a neverTrumper, his dedication to ousting Trump took a back seat when Howard Schultz waved a check under his nose.

So spare us the false equivalencies and "no thanks" yourself.

[JI7]

40. Nope he didn't sign up weeks ago. He supported Biden in the GE

while trash like briahna joy gray and Jimmy dore attacked Biden.

[JHB]

41. Who gives a flying fuck about briahna joy gray and Jimmy dore?

How do they enter into this?

[JI7]

43. Becsuse they are frauds and spread lies about Biden

which the Lincoln Project helps fight off.

[JHB]

44. Then go after somebody who defends them.

[Sympthsical]

34. Wonder if they'll ask him about the co-founder of the Lincoln Project being accused of rape

By young men at that. So, you know, not that unusual for a Republican.

It's a whole story. I've been tempted to post about it here. What does it say when I kind of don't want to bother with the blowback from posting about a Republican's sexual assault accusations on a Democratic message board?

May still do, though.

[spooky3]

37. Why are the only sources I found that mentioned this rightwing sites? Can you provide a link

to a more credible source?

[Sympthsical]

42. I learned of it on Twitter

It's been trending in the LGBT community. That's how it first came to my attention. There are quite a few credible people discussing it.

Link to tweet

Scott Stedman is an investigative journalist.

And you're right. The only media who picked it up are right-wing.

What does that tell you?

Want to give people like Steve "Palin" Schmidt and Newton conspiracy theorist Rick Wilson a pass? Fine.

Want to be verrrry quiet about multiple credible accounts of sexual harassment and assault? I have a big problem. Hating Trump is not enough to be handing these Republicans constant passes.

[JI7]

45. That person's source is Don Jr

[Sympthsical]

48. The story started coming out last summer

And the Twitter I linked is an investigative journalist who is not right-wing. If you click on the link and read his thread, he has quite a bit to say on the matter.

Don Jr merely picked up on what had already been floating around for quite awhile.

[JI7]

49. He has nothing other than Don Jr

[Sympthsical]

51. Click on the post to read the thread. He's talking of his own experience and those of others

If you're not going to bother even reading the story, that's fine. But this story did not come from Don Jr. He's merely the one that got right-wingers reporting on it.

[spooky3]

47. Thanks for your reply. I will wait until a news outlet I trust reports this story.

Schmidt is not responsible for what others have done (or not) if he was not involved.

Everyone here knows about Palin, Howard Schultz, and other bad judgments of Schmidt's. But rather than engage in ad hominem attacks (https://www.logicalfallacies.org/ad-hominem.html), most of us judge his current comments on how correct or well-said we think they are.

[Sympthsical]

52. It's a story about alleged rape

Still going to worry about Schmidt? Odd choice of focus.

I don't like the guy. I think he's grifting. Wilson is even worse. But for some reason, too many people hold TLP weirdly sacrosanct.

If John Weaver were a Republican - wait, he is a Republican - we'd be all over this. The story would be everywhere. But it's TLP, so we get crickets.

And what source are you waiting to read? I literally linked to an investigative journalist who shared his own experience (with screenshots), and he talks about what he's been told about the situation from others.

He's literally a source. You don't need a news outlet to filter the story through. A person involved is telling it.

This is what I mean about how some Democrats treat TLP and why I'm hesitant to post about the story. People would act like personal defense attorneys. At least until AOC, I dunno, breathed. That would get rid of a significant chunk.

[Demonaut]

36. He switched parties and has a way with words like no other

[JHB]

39. Like none others /they put on MSNBC/

The distinction is significant.

[Demonaut]

50. ?

was that bad grammar?

[oasis]

30. Taking no prisoners. nt

[Demonaut]

35. EPIC

[Gothmog]

53. Steve was great