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Nevilledog

(55,078 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:13 PM Jan 2021

NEW: Audio of militia members narrating the Capitol invasion (using Zello walkie-talkie app)



Tweet text:
Lois Beckett
@loisbeckett
NEW: Audio of militia members narrating the Capitol invasion:

“We have a good group: 30 to 40 of us. We’re sticking together and sticking to the plan."

“We are in the main dome right now."

"Keep going.”

"...Everything we fucking trained for.”

Revealed: walkie-talkie app Zello hosted far-right groups who stormed Capitol
Audio and chat logs show insurrectionists communicated via the app, which has avoided proactive content moderation
theguardian.com
6:16 PM · Jan 13, 2021


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/13/zello-app-us-capitol-attack-far-right
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MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
1. So, there is a digital footprint that we can find these Terrorists?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jan 2021

If so, THEY BE GOING TO JAIL!

UpInArms

(54,973 posts)
3. These people are delusional
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:10 AM - Edit history (1)

The user’s Zello messages also bear strong resemblance to posts on Watkin’s Parler profile, according to our research: “Yeah. We stormed the Capitol today. Teargassed, the whole, 9,” she wrote on Parler. “Pushed our way into the rotunda. Made it into the Senate even.”

Watkins, who could not be reached for comment, told the Journal that she did not believe she had done anything wrong.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
4. "She believed she didn't do anything wrong
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jan 2021

That's what happens when you believe in fantasies.

You be GOING TO JAIL FOR TRYING TO OVER THROW THE GOVERNMENT.

mackdaddy

(1,976 posts)
5. So is there a digital record of all of these channels?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jan 2021

I could not tell from the article if the instant voice chats had a longer term record, or if they were not kept.

Would make a big difference for investigators.

dalton99a

(94,109 posts)
6. Ohio Bartender and Her 'Militia' Drove to D.C. to Join the Capitol Breach
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.citybeat.com/news/blog/21147932/ohio-bartender-and-her-militia-drove-to-dc-to-join-the-capitol-breach

Ohio Bartender and Her ‘Militia’ Drove to D.C. to Join the Capitol Breach
A Champaign County bartender who runs a self-identified militia, joined by three others in her unit, drove to Washington D.C. last week to join what descended into a seditious mob invasion of the U.S. Capitol.h
Jake Zuckerman, Ohio Capital Journal
Jan 13, 2021 11 AM

foo_fighter999

(87 posts)
8. Hmm...I'm not sure I believe her
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:48 AM
Jan 2021

According to the article:

Watkins dismissed characterizations of the riots as insurrectionist or violent as media spin. She said she and several other militia members who she entered the complex with saw the invaders marveling at the art and architecture of the Capitol like tourists.


But from the article the OP linked to:

As she narrated her march toward and into the Capitol, others in the Zello channel cheered on the insurrection and called for the kidnapping of politicians.

“You are executing citizen’s arrest,” said “1% Watchdog”, the creator of the channel, evoking the viral image of a man carrying zip ties in the Senate chamber. “We have probable cause: treason, acts of treason, election fraud, all kinds of felony crimes, no competent authority,” he said, referencing claims of voter fraud that have been promoted by Donald Trump and other Republican lawmakers but repeatedly debunked by journalists and the courts.

So, which is it? Was she just there to "marvel at the art" with the others, or did her group have more sinister motives that she is now denying because the mission failed? I think we all know the answer to that.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
9. It seems bars and restaurants really figure in all this.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:18 AM
Jan 2021

I notice flex-cuff dude is/was a bartender. Freak congress woman from Rifle, Colorado owns a bar. I read an article about Northern California militias and the leadership has ties to bars and restaurants.

I think the common theme is the virus hurts them personally because of lost wages and tips. But, they like to forget that Trump screwed this from the beginning so now Dems have to start over. It’s that individual mentality that drives them. Very selfish.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
7. It occurred to me the terrorists had no plan B. There must be a lot of them panicked and trying
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jan 2021

to organize some other attack. They won't find a secure way to communicate that can't be traced. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them cornered, shootouts and standoffs, any second now. You also had a lot of guys that feel like they missed out, maybe looking for some way to make a name for themselves. They might attack anything they think is an enemy.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
11. I wondered what they used when radio instead of cell phone comms was mentioned earlier on.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:18 AM
Jan 2021

From the article:

Being slow to respond may threaten the future of Zello, which relies on servers from Amazon Web Services and access to the Google and Apple app stores. By booting Parler from their platforms, the three companies have demonstrated they may not tolerate companies hosting extremist content.

So far, that’s not true of Zello.


Interesting. Zello might have to get busy or get gone.

“Zello was completely unresponsive,” said Talia Lavin, an outspoken critic of platforms that host extremist speech and the author of Culture Warlords. She led a campaign on Twitter in October to pressure the company to take more urgent action against Oath Keepers and other militias on the app. “They gave every indication of not caring at all about public opinion.”


Talia Lavin's Twitter thread is worth a look, with lots of info and links:







@Zello itself has known for months about this; according to info from inside the company they have known about many of these groups since violent anti-BLM counterprotests began in June. They have taken no significant action to curb this activity. 9/


😡

Great find, Nevilledog.
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