Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:23 PM

Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report

On Wednesday, ABC News reported that President Donald Trump seriously considered resigning ahead of the end of his term in discussion with White House aides. In the end, however, after asking questions about the process, he decided against it.

The reason? He doesn't trust that Vice President Mike Pence would pardon him, the way that Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon after he left.

Trump and Pence have been on the outs for several days now, with the president enraged that Pence did not buy a fringe legal theory that he had the power to prevent electoral votes from being counted for President-elect Joe Biden during congressional certification.

The president has also reportedly discussed pardoning himself, but legal advisers have warned him it may not be allowed and would increase his exposure to lawsuits.

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649932880/

Does that mean that DJT still wants a pardon, and will self-pardon?

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Trump considered resigning -- but refused because he doesn't trust Pence to pardon him: report (Original post)	TheBlackAdder	Wednesday	OP
He bet on a Coup. And lost. Again.	C_U_L8R	Wednesday	#1
He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally	Xipe Totec	Wednesday	#2
Maybe his lover from NK would pardon him.	Doreen	Wednesday	#12
Sadly, he's busy having an anal parasite removed. nt	Xipe Totec	Wednesday	#18
Is donny the parasite?	Doreen	Wednesday	#19
Kim didn't say. He just smiled. nt	Xipe Totec	Wednesday	#20
The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he?	underpants	Wednesday	#3
Why would Trump need a pardon? Has he done something wrong?	Beartracks	Wednesday	#4
Yerkillinme!	lindysalsagal	Wednesday	#5
since Trump is a double-crossing slime bucket...	RussBLib	Wednesday	#6
Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you	lindysalsagal	Wednesday	#7
Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence	NCjack	Wednesday	#10
How is self pardon on the table.	apnu	Wednesday	#8
Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo	NQCowboy68	Wednesday	#9
He's going to barricade himself in a room in the White House, isn't he?	tanyev	Wednesday	#11
It made me laugh when I read the header ...	CatMor	Wednesday	#13
You mean " Hang Mike Pence" might not pardon him?	lame54	Wednesday	#14
Accomplice to an attempted murder? I like that idea.	LiberalFighter	Wednesday	#17
"Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have called him a pussy..."	soothsayer	Wednesday	#15
One dimensional thinking.	Xolodno	Wednesday	#16
Just a big circular backstabbing fest	Blue Owl	Wednesday	#21
You have to admit...	Totally Tunsie	Wednesday	#22
Personally I would love to see him resign, and then pence forgets about their agreement.	captain queeg	Wednesday	#23
He will attempt to pardon himself.	Happy Hoosier	Wednesday	#24

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:26 PM

C_U_L8R (39,596 posts)

1. He bet on a Coup. And lost. Again.

Such a freakin loser. Rot in prison.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:27 PM

Xipe Totec (42,876 posts)

2. He would have to be pardoned by somebody who he trusts unconditionally

Which would be...

Um....

Ah....

Er...

Nobody...

Except maybe Putin....

But he's indisposed, and not taking any calls....

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:48 PM

Doreen (10,478 posts)

12. Maybe his lover from NK would pardon him.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:18 PM

Xipe Totec (42,876 posts)

18. Sadly, he's busy having an anal parasite removed. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:19 PM

Doreen (10,478 posts)

19. Is donny the parasite?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:20 PM

Xipe Totec (42,876 posts)

20. Kim didn't say. He just smiled. nt

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:27 PM

underpants (159,056 posts)

3. The Jenius really thought this one out didn't he?

Treat him like shit and call other people not him during a riot with his family in the middle of it.

Jesus Pence might actually get away from Trump without getting burned .....well okay just a bit.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:31 PM

Beartracks (10,710 posts)

4. Why would Trump need a pardon? Has he done something wrong?

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:33 PM

lindysalsagal (14,151 posts)

5. Yerkillinme!

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:34 PM

RussBLib (4,413 posts)

6. since Trump is a double-crossing slime bucket...

he thinks everyone is a double-crossing slime bucket

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:35 PM

lindysalsagal (14,151 posts)

7. Gosh, donny. Maybe "he doesn't like you so much since you

Completely screwed him for 4 years, and then demanded he attempt an illegal constitutional insurgency.

But what do I know?

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

NCjack (8,008 posts)

10. Trying to have mob at the Capitol try to hang Pence drove Pence

over the edge. Trump can't trust a person he tried to kill.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:37 PM

apnu (8,259 posts)

8. How is self pardon on the table.

The Constitution does not say the POTUS can pardon himself. And the same DOJ policy paper that states the POTUS cannot be sued, it also states the POTUS cannot self-pardon.

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Response to apnu (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

NQCowboy68 (26 posts)

9. Frustrates me the media never talks about this OLC memo

When the Mueller investigation was going on all we heard about was you can't indict a sitting president because of an OLC memo. For months we heard about the possibility of the self pardon but very rarely do they counter that with this self pardon OLC memo.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

tanyev (33,311 posts)