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Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:46 AM

How much different would we feel had we lost the runoffs

I know it's really hard to gauge given what's going on in the last week.

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Reply How much different would we feel had we lost the runoffs (Original post)
Tribetime Thursday OP
Me. Thursday #1
Sneederbunk Thursday #16
mobeau69 Thursday #2
empedocles Thursday #7
Silent3 Thursday #3
empedocles Thursday #8
TheRealNorth Thursday #4
SKKY Thursday #5
Turin_C3PO Thursday #12
SKKY Thursday #17
Johnny2X2X Thursday #6
empedocles Thursday #9
Johnny2X2X Thursday #10
Turin_C3PO Thursday #13
Johnny2X2X Thursday #14
MyOwnPeace Thursday #11
MineralMan Thursday #15

Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:49 AM

1. Don't Know, Don't Care, We Didn't

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:17 PM

16. ....

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:50 AM

2. What if we lost the election?

The End

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:11 AM

7. We could have

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:53 AM

3. If you want to consider hypothetical nightmares...

...I think the scariest would have been Democrats not getting the House in 2018. That was the biggest key to keeping Trump and the Republicans from grabbing up all power in a way that would have been nearly impossible to reverse, not for a very long, dark time.

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Response to Silent3 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:12 AM

8. Very useful hypothetical - how we won that

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

4. The runoff were icing on the cake

Defeating Trump in the general was what was critical.

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:54 AM

5. I said this a million times during the Democrat Primary, and into the general...

...it was more important to keep the house and flip the Senate than to take back the WH. So, yea, I think we would be feeling very different had Ossoff and Warnock not pulled off their massive wins.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:45 AM

12. I don't agree that it's more important.

With Trump in the executive for four more years he would have destroyed the country. Executives have tremendous (too much) power in our system. They can issue executive orders, control the Cabinet, etc.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:22 PM

17. A Democrat controlled Congress would have have much, much more power...

...to keep his silly ass in check. Make to mistake about it, I'm over the moon we have all three. But, given the choice between the WH or the Senate, the Senate can keep the president in check to a large degree. A republican controlled Senate and a Democrat in the WH, well, we've seen that movie before.

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:57 AM

6. That's the thing

The last 2-1/2 months should have been a time for celebration, Trump knew that too, so he's desperately tried to ruin it for all Dems. I feel relief that Joe won, but it's been such an all out assault on our Democracy by Trump and his partners that it's been a constant state of anxiety.

Then we won the runoffs in GA, a brief moment of joy before they tried to overthrow our Democracy by force. It's been a delayed celebration. I think next week Wednesday is going to be a huge release of emotion for 60% of the country, joy/relief/raw emotion. It's all going to come pouring out at once.

I tell you this though, since Trump lost Twitter and social media, his ability to terrorize the left has been gone, been a great last week without his every Tweet causing anxiety non stop.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:14 AM

9. The last 2-1/2 months have turned out to be very useful, as trumpism is well exposed.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:17 AM

10. It's exposed, but far from dead

Our Democracy was on the brink, almost over the brink, we barely kept it. We need to strengthen it if we hope to keep it going forward. Trump and his minions aren't going anywhere, and Congress is filled with people loyal to Trump over the country.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:50 AM

13. I am cautiously optimistic

that Trumpism will decline now that the FBI, DOJ, and NSA will be treating the extremists as terrorists. I was reading an article that explains that the far right has managed to fly under the radar until now, with our ďdeep stateĒ focused on Islamic terrorism. Thatís over and these groups will be pushed back under their rocks, I believe. Social media will be more alert to their activities too. The less extreme Trumpers will likely go back to being non-voting idiots and leave the governing to the adults. Thatís my hope anyway. We shall see.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:56 AM

14. Social media can be the key

These tech companies finally seem to be waking up to the fact that if they donít start arbitrating the truth at a minimal level, that society will collapse.

This last week was good for the country and freedom of speech. Our speech is more free when hate and fake news gets pushed down.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:43 AM

11. Nice summary........

We kept winning - and BunkerBoy kept pissing on our victory parade, throwing out roadblocks and lies that made us be quite active in defending what had been gained, only to have to work harder for the run-offs, and even NOW after the failed coup.
I think all of this has really "tempered the blade" as Ahnald (Arnold Schwarzenegger) showed in his video a few days ago. We are alert, strong, and ready to do what it takes to Make Amer.....(nah, just can't say it THAT way!) - make our country what we dream it could be.

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Response to Tribetime (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:57 AM

15. But we did not.

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