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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI still can't get over the fact that Trump literally tried to overturn the election after he lost
I still can't get over the fact that he literally tried to overturn the election after he lost and so many of his party went along with him. What did they think would have happened if they succeeded? Did they really think things would go on as if nothing happened?
The markets would tank as capital fled. There would be general strikes. Commerce would be ----ed. Free nations would withdraw their ambassadors at the request/demand of their voters. There would be riots everywhere. It wouldn't be civil war. It would be anarchy. If our military couldn't pacify Iraq or Afghanistan it's not going to be able to pacify America which has eight times as many people.
If you think about it it would have made Mexico and Canada great.
Walleye
(31,022 posts)woodsprite
(11,914 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Here's your key word - THINK!
NO indication of THAT ever happening with that gang.....
onetexan
(13,041 posts)He is sociopathic as his niece has said, & combined w the meganarcisstic personality it is a combo for destruction. Power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.
underpants
(182,800 posts)because THEY claim that we are overturning an election or at least Biden himself. By himself basically.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)We've gotten off easy.
Yonnie3
(17,437 posts)No longer term "thoughts" in his mind. Fix the loss and/or get vengeance.
A five year old on the playground.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I cant believe they thought any of the insurrection caper would work.
Another thing I cant get over: he travels around with a woman who is pretending to be his wife, but shes not his wife. He holds her hand, hugs and kisses her, and introduces her as the First Lady. So, so weird.
NJCher
(35,667 posts)Sometimes several times a day.
I'd add this: some of the military might go along with it, but most wouldn't. What would happen then? Military units fighting against each other?
Sheer craziness.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)for as long as they did in supporting Trump and contributing to him. Yes I know they got some huge payoffs for doing so, but they were always playing with matches inan oil refinery. At whatever point Trump "went off" he was going to implode the nation and, materially, they had the most to lose when it happened . The handwriting was emblazoned on the wall how Trump would have ruled had he actually remained in office for another four years. Domestic stability favors the haves more than it does the have nots.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)So much of our economy is knowledge based. How hard would it be for a Microsoft or a Google to move their headquarters to Toronto?
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)For the information sector, it is easy to hedge their bets.
For a long time I have believed that many in corporate America are presuming America's decline and have therefor been looting the store as a preface to leaving town. But even they should know that a sudden collapse in America's stability, rather than just a steady slow decline, would shake the foundations of the world economy, undermining even seemingly safe havens.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)As if that was the level of sophistication on the left. There would be general strikes with unions like the Teamsters, the American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association, and AFCSME telling their people to stay home. America would lose its babysitters for starters. There would be enormous pressure on major corporations to move their headquarters to Canada. Even what's left of the Big Three automakers could be moved to Mexico or Canada.
The reason Venezuela and Cuba went sideways is because that those could leave did
unblock
(52,221 posts)He never cared about America or Americans. He wants to be top dog and stay top dog and if he has to burn it to the ground to make that happen that wouldn't bother him in the least.
What's really staggering is that he thought this would work. Now, it's conceivable that the mob might have stolen or destroyed some of the electoral vote certificates. Maybe it's even conceivable that they might have gotten the house, under threat of further violence, to declare Donnie the winner. But then what? Did Donnie really think the majority, that voted for Biden, would stand for that?
There's a lot of fog of war leading up to an election and during the election itself. That's when an election can be stolen. But afterwards, after everyone declared you the loser?
As Biden would say, "c'mon, man!"
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I am thankful that the system held. But then again, it wasn't even close enough for the Republicans to stop/steal like in 2000 (and that outcome wasn't ever fully accepted by a lot of people even though Bush ultimately took office).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)and for some I imagine they'd prefer one here. But the chaos created by going completely fascist in a country with a mostly strong and stable history of democracy would probably scare a lot of businesses off. And a lot of businesses are pulling their money- at least temporarily- from the GOP because of what happened last week.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The thing that holds this whole edifice together is that people believe they are free and have agency even though they are a lot less free and have a lot less agency than they believe they have. Remove that illusion and things go sideways quickly.
On a more mundane level folks that work at companies like google, Intel, and Microsoft aren't going to hang around in a nation where Jethro and Billy Bob are calling the shots.
A hillbilly dictatorship would make Canada great.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)They all need to be voted out when they come up for re-election.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)after the past four years.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I wish I could say that Obama made so many good strides to make this country less racist, but I get depressed when I see all of it flooding back. God save us.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)We just have to keep working at it.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)way, all of them. I am so glad.
NQCowboy68
(67 posts)Is it Stone, Manafort, Flynn, Kushner, Miller. Someone had to have hatched this idea and then put the wheels in motion to plan and organize.
dmkinsey
(840 posts)for the rest of his life.
If the economy is a shambles and civil war breaks out like Syria he would not care.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Guilty of treason, the traitor can choose his beloved firing squad over hanging if he wants, I will let him choose that
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Retrograde
(10,136 posts)and Trump succeeding in his plans to make himself president-for-life plays into that, IMHO. He and his supporters did not think through the ramifications: one-time allies would refuse to recognize the regime, and realize that they can do just as well for their people without the US throwing its weight around. We'd see restrictions on imports from the US, and travelers from the US. China and the EU would be the dominant players, trying to see who can sway African nations to their sides. Putin would be very happy seeing the US diminished.
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)When the reporter noted that people are rioting, Trump replied: Get rid of the ballots, and youll have a very youll have a very peaceful there wont be a transfer, frankly, therell be a continuation.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/23/trump-wont-commit-to-peaceful-transfer-of-power-if-he-loses-the-election.html
David__77
(23,388 posts)Like the National Association of Manufacturers has now opposed Trump- and not before the election to my knowledge. A second term would have devastated the system.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)Widespread instability and an illegitate gov't (which would've been if Trump subverted the EC) is terrible for business, which relies on stability and people just going about their lives.