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Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:03 PM Jan 2021

Curt Schilling claims AIG canceled his insurance, due to his pro-trump* social media??

The link is to the Washington Examiner so....... And, not that I care but, if true, what kind of sense does that make?

Curt Schilling says AIG canceled his insurance policy over pro-Trump social media profile

World Series champion pitcher Curt Schilling says his insurance company canceled his plan due to his social media posts, which have recently praised President Trump.

"We will be just fine, but wanted to let Americans know that @AIGinsurance canceled our insurance due to my 'Social Media profile,'" Schilling tweeted Tuesday while tagging the insurance company AIG.

Schilling responded to a skeptical Twitter user by posting a screenshot from his communication with the company.

“Cut out personal information and kept the relevant part readable,” Schilling tweeted. “But ya, it's real and I don't imagine it's even close to what we will witness in the coming months, years, if we let the Nazi's win and the fraud is allowed to stand.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schilling-insurance-cancel-trump-support

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Curt Schilling claims AIG canceled his insurance, due to his pro-trump* social media?? (Original Post) Siwsan Jan 2021 OP
The key word here is 'says'. Hugin Jan 2021 #1
Here's a screen shot of the tweet Siwsan Jan 2021 #9
Even if the screenshot is authentic.... Dale Neiburg Jan 2021 #15
I'm going to check back, later, and see if AIG responds to his tweet Siwsan Jan 2021 #18
I suspect there was more to it than that. JHB Jan 2021 #2
More likely, Curt, they cancelled you because Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #3
Yup. Actuaries have many ways of identifying people who fall into Hortensis Jan 2021 #34
Yep Actuarial 201 underpants Jan 2021 #4
Curt Schilling actually collects Nazi memorabilia. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #5
Fake blood fake insurance claims fearnobush Jan 2021 #6
Seems like a reasonable business decision. When people do things which increase their RockRaven Jan 2021 #7
Life insurance companies DO assess social media histories to evaluate risk Hortensis Jan 2021 #37
That "proof" looks a tad suspect to me. catbyte Jan 2021 #8
I'm thinking the same thing. Siwsan Jan 2021 #11
Pukes think there are no consequences for what spews out pwb Jan 2021 #10
Slander and libel risk? JenniferJuniper Jan 2021 #12
Maybe the insurance company does not want to be liable for Schilling's actions UpInArms Jan 2021 #13
I work for insurance co - very skeptical Sugarmaggie Jan 2021 #14
I am betting he let it lapse Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #21
Curt is a gay wedding cake. KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #16
I worked with (not for) AIG for many years Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #17
A company refused to renew the insurance on my aunt's house, after my uncle died. Siwsan Jan 2021 #22
I kinda think pro trump high profiler's should probably stfu. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #19
I'm calling BULLSHIT on a known liar... Raster Jan 2021 #20
To be honest, I had no idea who he is, until I read the article. Siwsan Jan 2021 #23
Notice... tarheelsunc Jan 2021 #24
The screen shot doesn't say a policy was Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #25
But that's his EVIDENCE!!! Siwsan Jan 2021 #28
Washington Examiner, Daily Mail and The Blaze are on this Brother Buzz Jan 2021 #26
Since I really didn't even know who this guy is, it's hard for me to judge public interest Siwsan Jan 2021 #30
He kinda, sorta ran for senate against Elizabeth Warren Brother Buzz Jan 2021 #40
Woohoo, Curt made the New York Post, too Brother Buzz Jan 2021 #48
I wonder if he took part in the coup attempt and is trying to cover his tracks nt maryellen99 Jan 2021 #27
Read your policy asshole. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #29
Maybe It's Because He Used Steroids ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #31
If this is about The Affordable Care Act, then Schilling has a valid complaint against the insurer. Marcuse Jan 2021 #32
Schilling's racism just bubbles right up to his mouth and spills out Pantagruel Jan 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Jan 2021 #35
What a Snowflake! RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #36
I don't see how the proof he provided is proof dsc Jan 2021 #38
Well, he had to 'remove' all of that identification information Siwsan Jan 2021 #39
I don't really care to give RW media clicks..... TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #41
Ah, AIG. dawg Jan 2021 #42
Does Invoking the 'Insurrection Act of 1807' Affect Property Coverage? ARPad95 Jan 2021 #43
his wife is battling breast cancer. I bet that's why they threw him off Baltimike Jan 2021 #44
I don't think AIG offers health insurance. ARPad95 Jan 2021 #45
AAAh...my bad. Happy to stand corrected. nt Baltimike Jan 2021 #47
I'm calling bs. Schilling's 'relevant' text is in no way relevant to backing his claim. MerryBlooms Jan 2021 #46

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
1. The key word here is 'says'.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jan 2021

(and it's in the Washington Examiner.)

Any confirmation from AIG, yet?

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
9. Here's a screen shot of the tweet
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

I wouldn't have a clue how to find out if AIG would even bother to confirm it. Truthfully, perhaps it was canceled but it might have had nothing to do with his beliefs. Perhaps it's just another trump*ster looking to appear victimized?

Just weird.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
15. Even if the screenshot is authentic....
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jan 2021

it doesn't say anything about the carrier's reason for terminating/not issuing a policy.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
18. I'm going to check back, later, and see if AIG responds to his tweet
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

Long shot, I know, but that's all I can come up with, right now. I've got nothing but time on my hands while I wait for the plumber to finish installing the new water softener, anyway.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
2. I suspect there was more to it than that.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

Given the histrionics about "Nazis" (meaning Democrats) and "the fraud" (Joe winning the election), Schilly-schally does not come across as a reliable narrator.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Yup. Actuaries have many ways of identifying people who fall into
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

higher risk categories, but I'm pretty sure assholes tend to fall into a number of them.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
7. Seems like a reasonable business decision. When people do things which increase their
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jan 2021

chances of being attacked, the insurers calculation of the likelihood of an injury and therefore a payout changes, and the original terms may no longer be appropriate.

These conservatives love free markets and rational self-interested business decisions by corporations........... until they don't.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Life insurance companies DO assess social media histories to evaluate risk
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

for the purpose of setting premiums. They apparently use algorhithms to search for items of possible interest.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if auto insurers have started doing that also. What's more likely than that the kind of people who'd let a creep like Trump work them up into joining a violent insurgency would be more prone to having accidents than others?

pwb

(11,261 posts)
10. Pukes think there are no consequences for what spews out
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jan 2021

of their mouths. The feel falsely protected by trump who cares less about them.

JenniferJuniper

(4,510 posts)
12. Slander and libel risk?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

I'm not sure if this is a personal policy or a business policy (probably business) but a fair guess is that AIG is concerned about the risk he poses under the personal injury liability portion of the policy which covers slander and libel. Considering that the asshole never shuts his mouth.

Capitalism, dude. That's how it works.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
13. Maybe the insurance company does not want to be liable for Schilling's actions
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

Depends on what the coverage was for.

Sugarmaggie

(110 posts)
14. I work for insurance co - very skeptical
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

Normal contract provisions don’t include cancellation provisions based on political affiliation. If he was a spokesperson for company there may be a provision in marketing contract. I had to chuckle at this one. Not enough info to validate so I’m not trusting his claim. Maybe he allowed policy to lapse because of not paying premiums.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
17. I worked with (not for) AIG for many years
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

This sounds pretty fishy, to be honest. I wonder what kind of insurance it is. Generally you have a contract and I have never seen social media mentioned on them. He probably let the policy lapse, because shilling sucks at paying his bills.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
22. A company refused to renew the insurance on my aunt's house, after my uncle died.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jan 2021

Another 'underwriting' decision. She was in her mid-80's with no children, not in the best of health, and we wondered if that was the issue. She moved in with my mother, I moved in to the house and had no problem finding another company to insure it. (I was on the quit claim deed.) All I could think was what would have happened if she didn't have family to step in.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
19. I kinda think pro trump high profiler's should probably stfu.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

Because most "educated" Pro Trumpers' are Nazi Sympathizers whether they are self aware of that fact or not. (Adelson can go f himself in hell where i hope he's burning for eternity)

But I do believe Businesses can draw the line on doing business with anyone inciting insurrection on the Capitol.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
20. I'm calling BULLSHIT on a known liar...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

...I guarantee that there is NO WAY any insurance company canceled Schilling's insurance because of his political beliefs. That would leave them open to major repercussions.

Tell ya what, Schilling, present verifiable proof, and not some rigged up "communication" with the Company. If they truly did cancel Schilling, there is more to the story.

Schilling is a reich-wing liar.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
23. To be honest, I had no idea who he is, until I read the article.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jan 2021
Needless to say, I'm not a sports fan.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
24. Notice...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

that in the little snippet he posted, there was absolutely nothing to indicate he was being denied coverage based on his political beliefs. But why be surprised, Curt's always been a tool.

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
25. The screen shot doesn't say a policy was
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

cancelled. It implies he requested something and the request was refused. Marketing teams aren’t typically involved in issuing policies. Just a guess, he got a deal for being a spokesperson and when he went trumpanzie they cancelled it.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
26. Washington Examiner, Daily Mail and The Blaze are on this
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jan 2021

But not a peep out of the fake media. Most curious.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
30. Since I really didn't even know who this guy is, it's hard for me to judge public interest
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

As in would more reputable media even bother to report the claim.

The whole thing just smelled 'off', to me.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
40. He kinda, sorta ran for senate against Elizabeth Warren
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

The asshole announced his intention to run for the United States Senate as a Republican against Massachusetts Democrat Elizabeth Warren in 2018, but quietly folded after smarter people put the buzz in his ear.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
29. Read your policy asshole.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jan 2021

There are about a thousand reasons why an insurance company an cancel your policy. Those clauses may or may not include being a spoiled brat.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
31. Maybe It's Because He Used Steroids
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jan 2021

Never paid the price for that! Completely skated on that.
Guy picked up 3mph on his fastball & 7 inches of cut on his slider after he was 32!
And, the bloody sock? A wound that won't stop bleeding after 3 days? Hmmmm.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
32. If this is about The Affordable Care Act, then Schilling has a valid complaint against the insurer.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
33. Schilling's racism just bubbles right up to his mouth and spills out
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jan 2021

“You cowards sat on your hands, did nothing while liberal trash looted rioted and burned for air Jordan’s and big screens, sit back, stfu, and watch folks start a confrontation for shit that matters like rights, democracy and the end of govt corruption,” Schilling tweeted on Jan. 6 with the hashtag “#itshappening.

Response to Siwsan (Original post)

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
36. What a Snowflake!
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

wasn't he supposed to be a tough guy on the mound.

This guy is a whiny beast...nothing more nothing less

dsc

(52,155 posts)
38. I don't see how the proof he provided is proof
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jan 2021

all it says is the denial stands not why the denial occurred

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
39. Well, he had to 'remove' all of that identification information
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jan 2021

Apparently that took up most of the page.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
41. I don't really care to give RW media clicks.....
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:01 PM
Jan 2021

Was this health insurance, life insurance, or other type of insurance? I don't know if there would be certain types of insurance where political extremism would be considered a risk by an actuary?

Seem fishy overall though.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
43. Does Invoking the 'Insurrection Act of 1807' Affect Property Coverage?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.insurancejournal.com/blogs/big-i-insights/2020/06/05/571152.htm

Does Invoking the ‘Insurrection Act of 1807’ Affect Property Coverage?
By Christopher J. Boggs | June 5, 2020

Second, what is an insurrection and who qualifies as an insurrectionist?

Insurrection: A violent revolt against an oppressive authority, usually a government. “Insurrection is distinguished from rout, riot, and offense connected with mob violence by the fact that in insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government, while crimes growing out of mob violence, however serious they may be and however numerous the participants, are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.” (Black’s Law Dictionary)

Insurrectionist: A person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving conditions) freedom fighter, insurgent, rebel.

Based on the initial purpose of the protests that led to riots in some cases, they were not acts of insurrection, nor were the participants insurrectionists. These were not organized armed uprisings intent on overthrowing the government.

Lastly, where is the exclusion found? In nearly every case, the “insurrection exclusion” is found within a broader exclusion – either the “War” exclusion or the “War and Military Action” exclusion. The only exception is the Personal Auto Policy. Following is the relevant exclusionary wording from several policies:

Homeowners’ Policy Property Exclusion: War
War includes the following and any consequence of any of the following:
a. Undeclared war, civil war, insurrection, rebellion or revolution;

Commercial Property (CP 10 30) Exclusion: War And Military Action
(3) Insurrection, rebellion, revolution, usurped power, or action taken by governmental authority in hindering or defending against any of these.

Business Auto Coverage (Physical Damage):
War Or Military Action
(3) Insurrection, rebellion, revolution, usurped power or action taken by governmental authority in hindering or defending against any of these.

Personal Auto Policy (Physical Damage):Loss due to or as a consequence of:
a. Radioactive contamination;
b. Discharge of any nuclear weapon (even if accidental);
c. War (declared or undeclared);
d. Civil war;
e. Insurrection; or
f. Rebellion or revolution.


****************************************

Is the Exclusion Triggered?

Given the facts of the act and the exclusion, the “insurrection” exclusion does not appear to be triggered simply by the President’s invoking of the act. Further, even if a political figure or the media calls this an insurrection (towards a specific goal), the various protests do not pass the “insurrection” test.

Saying the grass is purple does not make it purple. There are certain facts that must be applied before ultimately declaring a condition or action to be something. It’s not insurrection just because the President or the news reports claims it is (generally for effect); what are the facts?

Overall, the activities of the protestors and rioters do not reach the level required to be considered an insurrection, nor does it appear the intent of the policy to exclude damage caused by insurrection applies to their actions. The exclusion does not apply.



[Full article at link above.]

Baltimike

(4,143 posts)
44. his wife is battling breast cancer. I bet that's why they threw him off
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

Like Elizabeth Warren said, "You don't have insurance...you only THINK you have insurance"

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
45. I don't think AIG offers health insurance.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:13 PM
Jan 2021

What kind of insurance is AIG?

In the United States, AIG is the largest underwriter of commercial and industrial insurance. AIG offers property casualty insurance, life insurance, retirement products, mortgage insurance and other financial services.

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