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Remember when Rick Wilson wished Matt Gaetz a happy birthday on twitter? (Original Post) melman Jan 2021 OP
Hum. Did he wish him a happy birthday SharonClark Jan 2021 #1
"Research"...That's an interesting way of putting it. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #3
The campaign to smear anything associated with the TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #2
lol No shit.. how's that working out? Cha Jan 2021 #4
Impotent rage. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #6
I never understand why people want to trash something that is extremely effective for us? Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #7
I don't either but they sure do. Cha Jan 2021 #11
"People" need someone to focus on. I can only imagine the bile that is being dished out on other OnDoutside Jan 2021 #24
Methinks this thread was a............ George II Jan 2021 #17
lol.. And, he Swings & Cha Jan 2021 #18
He's taking a little break now Hekate Jan 2021 #27
... Cha Jan 2021 #28
Maybe a little time is needed for some rethinking? MineralMan Jan 2021 #39
Yep. Wait till the Biden policy "critiques" start. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #5
It did, shortly thereafter: George II Jan 2021 #15
Seriously obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #8
I am in agreement that some of the activities from the TLP members were loathsome. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #12
Totally agree. We know they do not agree with moonscape Jan 2021 #29
And the campaign to look backward vs. forward continues. George II Jan 2021 #14
It has gotten old by now Hekate Jan 2021 #25
When your co-founder is accused of sexual harrassment and assault, hard to paper over it Sympthsical Jan 2021 #31
Playing the victim card can also be politically convenient. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #32
Rick Wilson stirred up Newton nonsense. Some things are unforgivable. Sympthsical Jan 2021 #33
It's your right to have that opinion. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #34
That Weaver accusation was third-hand from Ryan Girdusky with no substantiation and it went nowhere. George II Jan 2021 #45
There was a first hand account, with DM screen shots Sympthsical Jan 2021 #46
1. What does this have to do with Rick Wilson? 2. What does this have to do with Bernie Sanders? George II Jan 2021 #47
It's about the Lincoln Project Sympthsical Jan 2021 #48
So what does it have to do with Sanders, is he a member of The Lincoln Project? George II Jan 2021 #49
I'm going to go play World of Warcraft now Sympthsical Jan 2021 #50
In other words, it has nothing to do with Sanders but you just threw that in for whatever... George II Jan 2021 #51
I guess I missed the trial. When was he convicted of "sexual harassment and assault"? Don't forget.. George II Jan 2021 #44
You seem focused SunsetDreams2 Jan 2021 #9
5 years ago? Caliman73 Jan 2021 #10
Years ago? Guess what, I farted in class when I was in 2nd grade. What say you about that? George II Jan 2021 #13
In hindsight (pun intended), did you remember to tweet about it? TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author highplainsdem Jan 2021 #16
There was no treason in 2015 Generic Brad Jan 2021 #19
It's no secret that Rick Wilson WAS a RW operative. But he's clearly not now. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #20
Wilson is still a Republican and has never said otherwise melman Jan 2021 #21
Fine. He's still a republican who is speaking the truth and that should be Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #22
He's not a "RW operative" as noted. But I guess now it doesn't really matter anymore. George II Jan 2021 #35
Bazinga! NurseJackie Jan 2021 #37
so we should tell him to shut up bc is isn't pure in ideology? Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #40
Not at all, in fact I agree with you 100%. I don't believe in that purity thing, NO ONE is pure... George II Jan 2021 #52
He is no longer a republican FreeState Jan 2021 #43
You realize that's 5-years ago, right? herding cats Jan 2021 #26
How does one even find this irrelevant stuff Hav Jan 2021 #30
Calvin Klein knows... NurseJackie Jan 2021 #41
LOL betsuni Jan 2021 #36
You know how folks appeciate convicts let out of jail to fight on front lines against forest fires? Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #38
I like that analogy. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #42

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
1. Hum. Did he wish him a happy birthday
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021

in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020?
Isn’t that included in your Rick Wilson research?

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
3. "Research"...That's an interesting way of putting it.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:06 PM
Jan 2021

You’re far more diplomatic than I am.

Quixote1818

(31,155 posts)
7. I never understand why people want to trash something that is extremely effective for us?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jan 2021

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
24. "People" need someone to focus on. I can only imagine the bile that is being dished out on other
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:08 AM
Jan 2021

forums where DU's TOC don't exist.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
27. He's taking a little break now
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:32 AM
Jan 2021

I checked his file — as anyone can A little break. Clears the mind.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
5. Yep. Wait till the Biden policy "critiques" start.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jan 2021

(I’m not talking about policy critiques from TLP to clarify.)

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
8. Seriously
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:13 PM
Jan 2021

I know many of TLP guys have done some pretty loathsome stuff in the past.

In the past.

AOC is working with them now.

NOW.

I do not care right now -- they want the Nazis out, that is all I care about now.

TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
12. I am in agreement that some of the activities from the TLP members were loathsome.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jan 2021

The members of TLP are not asking for forgiveness and they do not appear to be formulating any policy proposals for the Biden administration to follow. They are working to rid the extremist elements that enabled the Trump regime and get Democrats elected so I have difficulty understanding the vendetta that we have observed over the past few months.

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
29. Totally agree. We know they do not agree with
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 05:54 AM
Jan 2021

many to most of dem policies, but are singularly focused on democracy and destroying Trumpism. They’d love nothing more than feeling free to get back in the mud with us on policies and I for one can’t wait.

I have a good friend who is a conservative never-Trumper, and is as anguished as we are about it. I told her - we are suffering equally with the horror of what we’re enduring, but you have it tougher. I haven’t lost my home, my party, while you’re left wandering the streets. She agreed.

Their fight for democracy means working hard for our success, which means also our policies they don’t agree with. What could be more admirable and country-first than that?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
31. When your co-founder is accused of sexual harrassment and assault, hard to paper over it
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:40 AM
Jan 2021

But our side likes these Republicans, so I guess that sort of thing deserves ignoring.

It's always curious. Which victims we value and which we do not, because it's politically convenient.

TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
32. Playing the victim card can also be politically convenient.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 07:12 AM
Jan 2021

The OP dug nearly 6 years back into the past. It looks like you are digging nearly two decades in the past to try and make a point. People change and the more thoughtful of them try to atone and make amends for their faults. Some people have the capacity to forgive while others lack that ability--I consider myself to be in the former group rather than the latter. YMMV

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
33. Rick Wilson stirred up Newton nonsense. Some things are unforgivable.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 08:02 AM
Jan 2021

That's a big one for me. Hating Trump is not absolution. Bush and Cheney hate Trump. When do we give them their pass?

John Weaver is an accused sexual assaulter.

TLP had very little effect on the election. We do not need them. And we certainly do not need to be promoting or praising them. All they're interested in are Democratic dollars as they try to regain the place in the Republican establishment that Trump displaced them from.

Hard pass.

TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
34. It's your right to have that opinion.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 08:14 AM
Jan 2021

However, it appears that you are in the minority based upon the responses in this thread. Maybe melman will post another thread about Rick Wilson and/or TLP?

By the way, this is the second time that you have used the word "accused". Anyone can make accusations. The challenge comes in proving those accusations.

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. That Weaver accusation was third-hand from Ryan Girdusky with no substantiation and it went nowhere.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jan 2021

Girdusky is also a contributor to the "Ingraham Angle" so he's got an axe to grind.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
46. There was a first hand account, with DM screen shots
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:10 AM
Jan 2021

A long thread by an investigative journalist who is not right-wing.




If this were Bernie Sanders, I wonder how it'd go?

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. 1. What does this have to do with Rick Wilson? 2. What does this have to do with Bernie Sanders?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:23 AM
Jan 2021

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
48. It's about the Lincoln Project
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:26 AM
Jan 2021

And the kind of people being praised by some Democrats.

They're awful Republicans to the core. Trump messed with their gravy train and that is all. And yet, from some quarters, they earn leeway that progressives do not. It's very odd to me, as a liberal Democrat. Very odd.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
50. I'm going to go play World of Warcraft now
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

It is, oddly, a more interesting game than this.

George II

(67,782 posts)
51. In other words, it has nothing to do with Sanders but you just threw that in for whatever...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jan 2021

I never played World of Warcraft before, but I know it's pretty popular.

Are there characters other than humans, like lions, or tigers, or maybe a giraffe?

George II

(67,782 posts)
44. I guess I missed the trial. When was he convicted of "sexual harassment and assault"? Don't forget..
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jan 2021

....several months ago Joe Biden was accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault. Do you think he should not have been our nominee and now our President in 5 days. Of course we know those accusations were false.

So what was the outcome of those accusations against Rick Wilson, anything?

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
10. 5 years ago?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jan 2021

I understand that there is a reluctance to accept with open arms and no scrutiny, the presence of Republicans who prior to Trump, were right in there trying to establish conservative domination.

I personally think it is too much to pick at a generic Tweet from one person to a former colleague.

I would be more concerned if Wilson was still buddy buddy with Gaetz. A LOT has happened in 5 years.


George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Years ago? Guess what, I farted in class when I was in 2nd grade. What say you about that?
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:11 AM
Jan 2021

BTW, at the time of that tweet from Rick Wilson, Matt Gaetz was an unknown. I seriously doubt that he'd say anything even close to that today.

Again, what say you? Waiting..................................................................

Response to melman (Original post)

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
19. There was no treason in 2015
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jan 2021

Rick Wilson is not a time traveler and was a Republican then. That was an entirely different world back then.

Vivienne235729

(3,748 posts)
20. It's no secret that Rick Wilson WAS a RW operative. But he's clearly not now.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jan 2021

He may go back to being a Republican later on, too. But for now, he and TLP are working hard to dismantle trump and this virus that is taking over our political landscape. Considering they are pretty damn good at what they are doing, I’d just as well take their help and appreciate it for what it is. Good grief. Life isn’t always neat and tidy. Move on...

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
21. Wilson is still a Republican and has never said otherwise
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 01:08 AM
Jan 2021

This is just a fact. Schmidt has renounced the Republican party but Wilson has not.

Vivienne235729

(3,748 posts)
22. Fine. He's still a republican who is speaking the truth and that should be
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jan 2021

The real focus right now. He can call himself a libertarian or independent or whatever he wants. It doesn’t matter. They’re just labels. I’d take what he’s doing right now any day over “Democrats” who carry water for the RW smear machine. The proof is in the pudding. He and TLP do good work taking down authoritarianism. Let’s celebrate that...no matter what he calls himself.

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. He's not a "RW operative" as noted. But I guess now it doesn't really matter anymore.
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jan 2021

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. Not at all, in fact I agree with you 100%. I don't believe in that purity thing, NO ONE is pure...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jan 2021

...including those who demand it from our politicians.

I'm extremely happy with what The Lincoln Project, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt and all the others did during the general election campaign and the runoff elections in Georgia.

Throw in Republican Veterans against Trump and The MeidasTouch, too. They all contributed to President Biden's win and our majority in the Senate.

FreeState

(10,702 posts)
43. He is no longer a republican
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jan 2021

He states clearly he is not a republican.

https://www.salon.com/tv/video/3txl76

Former Republican strategist Rick Wilson explains on "Salon Talks how Donald Trump killed the GOP and why it caused him to leave the party for good. According to Wilson, the Republican Party was once held together by three types of conservatives: individual liberty, social and fiscal conservatives, but Trump helped "burn it all down".

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
26. You realize that's 5-years ago, right?
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 04:23 AM
Jan 2021

Now he's working to take him down. I'm good with that.

These are exceptional times in need of exceptional measures. As is evident by Wilson now handing the hard right their asses on a daily basis.

There's zero harm in letting him do his thing. We get to sit back and watch him turn his skills on his own. It's a thing of beauty.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
38. You know how folks appeciate convicts let out of jail to fight on front lines against forest fires?
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jan 2021

I kind of feel that way about the likes of Rick Wilson now. It's all hands on deck time for democracy.

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