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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Speaker Pelosi send the Article of Impeachment over to McConnell's Senate today?
I think, maybe she should?
Why?
There are still 5 days left in this Administration. Even if McConnell refuses to address it immediately, at least, it can be noted that he had it in his hands before January 20th. Why is that important?
Because it will give the Democrats the legitimacy they will need to continue the trial after Joe Biden is sworn into office.
Why should they continue with an impeachment "trial"?
Because, more than anything, this country needs the truth. If the only way to get to that truth, which may save democracy, is to have a "trial", then so be it. Call witnesses. Disprove their conspiracy theories. Let America see them in daylight. Turn over every stone. Show the American people the "Big Lie".
That is the only way we are going to resolve this dilemma in any way resembling a solution.
servermsh
(913 posts)gab13by13
(21,304 posts)I expect we will learn more damning evidence in that time period. The people who stormed the Capitol when arrested, their best defense is to say that president Trump invited them. The more people who say that the better.
doc03
(35,325 posts)learning how deep this went into the government. This had to be an inside job.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Or would they prefer a Commission do the work and report back to them in 3-6 months?
doc03
(35,325 posts)This is something that shouldn't be covered up or it
will happen again.
SunStar
(66 posts)The craven political answer is probably to take Mitch at his word and wait to give it to Schumer.
The morally right answer is to pass the articles along immediately and request a speedy trial in the Senate. Mitch will probably do the morally wrong thing. Best he and his associates be alone in that.
I'm not sure which answer is the best answer for the country, but going with politics over something so fundamentally serious feels wrong.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Not until Schumer has control, and after he. Has the votes needed for conviction, or else it will fail.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)It is a legal challenge they will make, I am sure.
...unless the turtle was willing to rush a vote and that vote was to convict trump before he leaves office, forget about it...
...the pukes don't want to unite and redeem themselves, 197 in House said they want to keep the trump ball rolling...
...we'll do it...we'll control the agenda and process...we'll methodically layout the undeniable evidence and force the pukes to choose between trump or country...we'll allow time for the gravity of what trump and his gang has done to sink in with the hope that truth and patriotism may rub off on some of the trumpkins...
...the House pukes had their chance to get on the right side of history but chose not to...the Senate pukes will probably do the same...but it doesn't matter, as we move forward more and more Americans will begin to realize just how close we came to losing our democracy...
...keep the turtles sticky fingers away from the process since he said he wasn't going to do squat anyway...
...Nancy and Chuck can handle it...
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)McConnell could dismiss the charges or find some other way to bury it. If the Dems give it to him, there may be nothing left to work with by the time they get control.
Democrats don't need to prove the "legitimacy" of any of this and they definitely don't need to prove it by turning it over to a man whose own mother probably didn't trust him any further than she could throw him.
Waiting a few days isn't going to make a bit of difference that would hurt the Democrats. Handing it over the McConnell could be a strategic mistake of historic proportions.
rgbecker
(4,826 posts)By that time, Trump's influence will have subsided and maybe a few Republicans wouldn't be afraid to vote to convict. Furthermore, more evidence of Trump's role in the insurrection will be apparent and could be used as evidence. This, and Biden could assemble his cabinet and get the vaccine, stimulus and work done undoing all the damage Trump has done. Senator Schumer should be in charge of this, not Mitch. Biden's good work will make supporting Trump seem ridiculas in 3 months.
crickets
(25,962 posts)There's time after the inauguration to get more information about how this was planned and who was involved, including other Congressional members. I could be wrong, but I firmly believe there are Repubs in Congress, in both houses, who are directly complicit. They should be exposed and expelled before any thought of a vote, imo.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)This should not be gamed. The House has done its job. Make the Senate go on record.