I'm hoping we're done with the "We need to reach out to the Trump voters"

[StarfishSaver]

Anyone who is still a Trump voter after last week doesn't need to be anywhere near us. Period.

Thank you for your attention. You may now go back to what you were doing.

[lagomorph777]

1. Reach out with the long arm of the law.

Specifically to the large minority of them who supported/support insurrection.

[exboyfil]

4. Arrest enough of them and convict them

So they lose their voting rights. Then we can take their kids away and attempt to deprogram them. Just like a cult.

[Ohioboy]

87. As convicted criminals they should lose their gun rights too

[BlueMTexpat]

47. + a million or so! eom

[BarbD]

71. Love your black stallion.

[BlueMTexpat]

107. Thanks!

I love that clip too. It's likely from the movie, but I'm not completely sure.

[spooky3]

61. +1

[whopis01]

72. When I saw the post headline, I had the exact same thought. n/t

[wnylib]

85. Reach out with a message about Biden's win.

Get over it or leave.

[lastlib]

95. failing that, heavy dimensional lumber......?

I'm ready.

[tblue37]

97. Or like this:

Link to tweet

[Irish_Dem]

2. I cannot reach out to people who want to kill me, our leaders, our government.

Doesn't seem like a safe idea.

[edhopper]

3. They were always in the minority

Trump was never a popular President.

So fuck em.

[dubyadiprecession]

8. Now your just trying to hurt their feelings.

They are very sensitive people.

[edhopper]

22. Poor babies

[treestar]

111. True. It would be better to reach out to the

Republicans that are leaving because of them and Independents.

Makes me ill they keep talking about the 72 million - not a word in 2016 about the 63 million who voted for Hillary and they were even the majority!

[in2herbs]

5. Since the day he was elected I have reached out to no trump voters and that position will

continue to my dying day.

[dreamland]

6. That's just suicidal. It be an futile mental exercise.

You'll get your brains fried with their logic and yourself twisted in a knot.

[Turin_C3PO]

7. I was done reaching out a long time ago.

[StarfishSaver]

9. I was, too

But still had to put up with Democrats who kept telling me my calling these people out for what they are was going to make it harder to convince them to vote Democratic.

How many times did we have to deal were even the mildest criticisms of these people met with such retorts as "Oh, that's a GREAT way to get them to vote with us."

[Turin_C3PO]

10. My pet peeve

is when people claim that “economic anxiety” is at the root of their anger and ridiculous beliefs. No, bigotry and ignorance is the root of their world view.

[CTyankee]

69. What I hated is their lying and jesting about "government health care."

That and "big government" being such a bad thing. Big government won World War II and put a man on the moon.

[Wounded Bear]

11. They declared war on us...

can't really reach out to them until they stop attacking us.

[wnylib]

92. Agree completely. The Republican call

for unity and peace is a farce since they broke both the unity and the peace and show no sign of changing.

[Aristus]

12. I've been reaching out to punch the 'un-friend' button.

I'll be happy to reach out to punch the Trumpsters if they insist on not going away.

That's the only outreach that traitorous bunch of clodhoppers is going to get from me...

[Demsrule86]

100. You work in those districts to turn voters who might be accessible...have to do it or we won't hold

majorities the way our government is structured.

[Demsrule86]

13. We need to reach out to former Trump voters in order to increase our majorities...

that is a different thing. Reaching out Trump voters in the suburbs helped us take Georgia.

[Wednesdays]

15. It's an exercise in futility for most of them.

Our energy is better spent wooing the never-Trumpers and the TLP types.

[Demsrule86]

49. It is how we took Georgia and Virginia before. my entire Virginia family used to be

reliable GOP voters and are now yellow dog Democrrats.

[Demsrule86]

98. Again, if Democrats had not been reaching out to Paulding County Democrats and they voted as

they did in 16, Biden would have lost Georgia. He took a small number of votes but without them he would have lost...about 26 thousand. We have to win votes in red districts even if it is just reducing the margin they win buy in order to win more statewide and national elections.

[JonLP24]

21. Georgia Trump voters in DC also helped Democrats win Georgia

They decided to go to the insurrection instead of staying home and voting for the Georgia Senate candidates.

[Demsrule86]

50. That is one way of looking at it but ...you know Georgia has extensive early voting.

But the idiots like Lin Wood saying don't vote for the Georgia GOP Senators helped IMHO.

[Turin_C3PO]

34. But what helped us even more

in GA was strong African American turnout in key districts.

[wishstar]

42. African American voters have saved our democracy from dictatorship this year

Without their wisdom and turnout giving momentum to Biden in primary and then our victories in Georgia and elsewhere we would have lost both the WH and the Senate since only about 20% of whites voted Democratic in many places.

[Turin_C3PO]

46. Yeah, I think New England and maybe the West Coast

are the only areas where a majority of white vote Democratic.

[Demsrule86]

66. That needs to be increased... we need to win larage majorities which can't be expanded

New England or the West Coast particularly in the Senate.

[Turin_C3PO]

67. Yes but I'm not sure what we can do.

White people (not all) across the West, Midwest, and South seem to harbor hatred toward liberals. I don’t know how to fix that.

[Demsrule86]

60. I agree. Without strong AA support Biden wouldn't have won. But that vote alone can't

guarantee a win, although a poor showing can guarantee a loss, we still need to pick off voters in red counties.

[burrowowl]

94. Native American voters turned out and voted for Biden too!

The Navajo and Hopi Nations voted 97% for Biden!

[Demsrule86]

56. I agree with that...but consider Paulding County where my sister lives...about 26,000 voted

for Biden. He lost the county by a pretty large margin. This is a majority white county sis tells me. Without those votes Biden would have lost Georgia. We need all voters in Georgia and everywhere...all that we can get. The same is true in the Senate race, we lowered Trump's numbers considerably in red counties which combined with the AA vote helped pick off two GOP Senators. We need the burbs and the AA vote. In fact, suburbs are increasingly diverse.

[Turin_C3PO]

57. Agree.

I think our long term goal should be increasing turnout even more among African-Americans and flipping more moderate suburban voters to our side. I imagine some of them weren’t too keen on the attempted Capitol coup.

[Demsrule86]

62. I 100% agree with you. I don't think we should take the AA vote for granted...it is a gift for our

party not a duty. We can increase all votes with strategies based on states and districts.

[llmart]

48. I think it had more to do with the massive get out the vote campaign.

I doubt many trump supporters voted for the two Dem senators.

[StarfishSaver]

74. Trump voters had nothing to do with us taking Georgia

Black and Brown voters who busted their butts, stood in line for hours and faced down blatant and often violent voter intimidation took Georgia.

[Paladin]

14. No more of that goody-two-shoes "reaching out" bullshit.

The trump hordes are the enemy. They want Democrats dead. They deserve the same in return.

[LakeArenal]

16. I'm still reaching. None of the Republicans I know were part of the MAGAdeath rush into the Capitol.

If there’s a chance their legislatures will vote for impeachment I will ask them til blue in the face.

It’s what Joe has said since he announced so I’ll try my best.

[StarfishSaver]

77. No, they just voted for the people who incited and assisted the riots

Screw them. I don't want them anywhere near me.

[LakeArenal]

103. Good on you.

[Hekate]

17. Any GOP politician who tells us we need to "heal" by having the Dems stfu needs a healing clout...

....across the ear.

[Tom Rinaldo]

18. Reach out, no. Deprogram, when possible, yes.

But the latter ain't gonna be easy, and I think groups like The Lincoln Project are better able to figure out potential points of entry into the delusional field encompassing them than are long time Dems. I only say that that effort is worth pursuing out of concern for all of our safety, not out of anyparticular concern brainwashed Trumpers.

Point of order though. There literally have not been any Trump voters since November. Some of those who may have voted for Trump before his effort to first overturn the election and then overthrow our government may be reachable if they are not still swearing allegiance to Trump.

[nam78_two]

30. Good post

It is not about reaching out but about deradicalizing. It is not about elections. Having a large portion of the people in one's country being bat shit crazy is bad whoever is in power. Their own less crazy conservatives should try to reach them.

[Turin_C3PO]

39. Good points

and I tend to think many of the most hardcore Trumpers will go back to not voting when he’s not on the ticket. They’ll crawl back under their rocks. That’s my hope anyway.

[Turin_C3PO]

40. Good points

and I tend to think many of the most hardcore Trumpers will go back to not voting when he’s not on the ticket. They’ll crawl back under their rocks. That’s my hope anyway.

[mjvpi]

90. It's hard to deprogram a fact averse population.

A cable news truth a reconciliation commission is needed. No charges if they own up to their shit.

[Poiuyt]

101. I think it will be necessary to use the techniques of religious cult deprogrammers

to reach trump supporters. You can't use rationality to cure people who are divorced from reality.

[Freddie]

19. All this time we were told to "understand" the poor rural Trump voter

And now we know who they really are. Police officers, firemen, lawyers. People who took vacation days to state a coup. Middle class and above. And screw trying to “understand” them.

[nam78_two]

32. This is also a good point

If you are educated and middle-class there really is no excuse. Unless they try to change at least now. No one gains from large numbers of people remaining bat shit crazy. They have deradicalization programs for people like these. I don't know how effective they are though.

[kimbutgar]

20. And I don't want to see ever again cable tv reporters interviewing republicans in diners!

[CaptainTruth]

23. I'll reach out to smack them upside the head.

[littlemissmartypants]

24. Sure. But can I have one hand behind my back with my fingers crossed? nt

[pandr32]

25. I know that I'm done

There is no quicker way to get into a conflict and I find them stressful.

[Tommymac]

26. Reach out? BWAAHAHAHAHA

[Jetheels]

27. Done splaining.

[Lonestarblue]

28. I don't particularly care what delusional people think.

Their opinions and thoughts are not enlightening in any way. Trump supporters have been Disneyfied into believing that Cinderella’s castle is real and Donald and Mickey are the real leaders of the free world.

[Hav]

29. Right, it's always the Dems that are asked to make nice

Didn't see much reaching out after the 2016 election from them. They set the tone with "fuck your feelings".
Further, given the current lunacy of Trumpism and the attempted coup, it would be comparable to demanding that a victim of violence needs to reach out to the thug.

[Dukkha]

31. yelling at a brick wall is more productive

Will never waste a second of my time. Just silence then and send them scurrying back to their dark cockroach dwelling.

[Orrex]

33. I've rejected that silly exhortation for years

The cancerous fuckheads on the right mock our attempts at understanding, they attack us for trying to empathize, and they ridicule our efforts at outreach.

They do not want or deserve our understanding; they want our destruction or, at the very least, our silence and invisibility.

They are a proudly defiant enemy attacking us in real time, and we are under no obligation to empathize with our attackers.

Let them reach out to us.
Let them understand us.
Let them empathize with us.

Until then, fuck every last one of those worthless assholes.

[BarbD]

75. No reasoning with unreasonable people.

It's an exercise in futility.

[Mr. Ected]

35. I wouldn't reach out to them if they were drowning and I was the only witness

Well, maybe I would, but I'd want to be sure they suffered a little bit before the arm of kindness blessed their snowflake world.

[wishstar]

36. and the notion that economic anxiety and lack of opportunity was to blame

When so many of those arrested had higher education and training in professional careers including military and law enforcement as well as some corporate executives.

My closest Trumper relative is an Ivy League educated retired corporate executive driven into rightwing delusion by hatred of taxes and attitude of elitist white privilege and superiority but driven to extreme beliefs by Fox News over 20+ years.

[MontanaMama]

37. Someone needs to get the memo to James Fucking Comey.

He’s out there suggesting Joe Biden consider pardoning the traitor. No. Just no. It is this kind of thinking that will give rise to another dictator wannabe.

[MyMission]

84. Absolutely! He's a partisan shill

With a smidgen of loyalty to this country, and the bulk to his party and who knows who else. He is complicit in the 2016 outcome. Now he's trying to set things up for them to take back the government in 2024; thinking if we forgive (and don't prosecute) we will forget. WE won't.
He should be investigated, seriously. Release his emails and scrutinize his social media. Who's he been talking to?
James fucking Comey indeed!

[SayItLoud]

38. Anyone, family included, still a tRUMPER. Dead to me. nt.

[Roc2020]

41. A family member is a frothing Trump fan

and I didn't know until after the election. Then her true colors showed ranting and all. I'm still in shock. I will never see her the same again.

[hay rick]

43. They need to be held accountable.

They need to reach out to us. There is no reasonable middle halfway between us and them. We need to continue to condemn their bad behavior, their self-indulgent and transparent lies, and the immoral, opportunistic politicians they support. I hope enough Trump supporters see enough light to at least wander off from the herd- but it's up to them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. They can reach out w "Biden is President, election was fair, "Steal" was a lie". Then, maybe. nt

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

45. All my bridges are nuked...

No place to build more.

[Pepsidog]

51. We need to reach out to stomp Trumpism into dust.

[Nexus2]

52. Why are 'we' (its a pretty big tent) required to reach out to people only seem to want us wiped out

, imprioned or driven out of the country? And make no secret of it. It wasn't so called "libtards" or what ever that stormed the capital with guns and kidnap gear but we're supposed to extend the olive branch of peace and understanding, expecting nothing?

Except maybe to have it yanked out of our hand and used to beat us...

[Leith]

53. I agree

Reaching out just lets them chomp your arm clean off.

They went too far - waaay to far. They don't deserve empathy or understanding. They can claw their way back to sanity by themselves.

[cayugafalls]

54. I'll reach out, but they won't like what I reach out with...

[Sogo]

55. Amen.

[OneBlueSky]

58. As my brother always says . . .

"You can't fix stupid" . . . and anyone still trumping is, by definition, stupid . . . fuck 'em . . .

[PatrickforO]

59. Yes, anyone still supporting Trump is an insurrectionist.

I'm glad you are pointing this out, because there are many trolls out there criticizing Biden, upholding Trump, and even a few still contesting the election. In all cases, we need to point out that if they are still supporting Trump then essentially they want to tear down our republic and replace it with a dictatorship. Because Trump attempted to pull off a coup using the same strategies Putin used in Ukraine.

Trump is a traitor and his supporters are insurrectionists.

[jalan48]

63. And reaching across the aisle to find consensus with them as well.

[Heartstrings]

64. Nope, just nope....

I “see” what’s in their hearts. The Republicans worth saving have already seen the light, the hard core trumpers never will. Not worth my time trying to persuade them....

[Maru Kitteh]

65. Ohmigod SFS, THANK YOU FOR THIS THREAD.

FUCK those assholes. Trump is about white power, period, full stop.

[Mr.Bill]

68. And thank you all for wearing those red hats

and putting flags and signs in your yards so we know who the fuck you are. We won't forget.

[Evolve Dammit]

70. I know I am done. That's for damn sure.

[peggysue2]

73. Agreed!

People who still cannot see through the veil of excuses and apologies after January 6th are no longer credible in standing with the country or defending our democratic Republic. That includes Republicans and all other enablers who continue to defend Trump and his willingness of set the world on fire.

There's no reaching out to sedition. There's no understanding of Nazis, fascists, white nationalists. They mean to bring the country down, burn it to the ground and reshape it in their own image.

We need to make sure that never happens.

[BarbD]

80. Brava!

[NoMoreRepugs]

76. I've been on that train for years, I love the ride.

[Nevilledog]

78. I never once considered reaching out. Fuck those guys.

[hibbing]

79. Kick n/t

[MyNameGoesHere]

81. Not just trump voters but the entire GOP

Aiding and enabling insurrectionist is just as criminal and undemocratic as doing it.

[Desert_Leslie]

82. Answer Passion ...

with Compassion.

Answer Rage with Peace

[KY_EnviroGuy]

83. Let us never forget the eight years of hatred toward President Obama.

I'm sure President-elect Biden has not forgotten either.

All the ones I still know are beyond redemption.


KY.......

[mcar]

86. I expect NYT will continue their front-page interviews

of poor, misunderstood Trump voters.

I won't hold my breath for similar stories about Biden voters.

[BobTheSubgenius]

88. There is at least one VERY good reason for "reaching out."

A zip tie.

[MyMission]

89. I'm ready to start reaching out,

With my stun gun!

Reaching out to let them know to back up and keep away from me!

[Initech]

91. Agreed! Fuck 'em!

I think from now on we need to start making the MAGA brand as toxic as Germany made the Nazi brand.

[Gore1FL]

93. I agree whole-heartedly. nt

[tblue37]

96. Ms. Ashanti Smith reached out to this Trumper:

Link to tweet

[spanone]

99. K&R

[Blue Owl]

102. K&R

[SlogginThroughIt]

104. Can we reach out and drown em in the toilet?

[Luka Boyd]

105. Reach out and punch somebody

They better stay out of arms reach of me

[Dem2theMax]

106. Someone just posted on my local Nextdoor app

that we should see Inauguration Day as 'Unity day.'

No way in hell. I will never forget what they've done.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

108. We need to reach out with a clue-by-four.

[Crowman2009]

109. Give me a +1 if you're like me and never wanted to reach out to these bigoted assholes...

...since the very beginning.

[ancianita]

110. +1

[ancianita]

112. Oh, we're done. Some more than others. But this is beyond us Democrats and the party.

The 72 million we're around are only one out of five people we might be around.

We should no longer try to give people help they don't understand, want, or ask for.

We've spent decades understanding them. We get it.

No more intellectual or political caretaking. Be polite, that's it.

We don't help ourselves with any more "understanding" of people who've used "stories" to plaster defamations on us, still calling us 'Demoncrats', still validating their collective white supremacy privately and calling it something else publicly, still pejoratively calling our building back better goal as radical liberalism or socialism, both of which I embrace and refuse to explain anymore. Top to bottom, we've wasted enough of our past cleaning up after the damage and danger they've threatened and followed through on.

This is no longer about being the better person, decent or even being kind.
We've all been there done that. We still do that.

We've got nothing to prove to the 72 million or their leaders.
We who saved democracy are leaving them to fix themselves.
It's not "rejection."
It's a redirection of our energies and vision.

We don't have to be dragged down by them. Ain't nobody got time for that.

They will have to change by watching and learning from us.
That alone will be their help.
If they want it.

78% of us in America are ready to get moving beyond race sickness, and we're the people with the can-do leadership to get us all there.

Thanks for confirming.

[Atticus]

113. Amen! nt

[BrightKnight]

114. We need to find ways to reach the demographics.

The hate, guns, etc. are just false gods they worship to fill a void. I do not know how you defuse the tribalism but nothing happens by ignoring it. Also, they are not a monolithic group.

[AmyStrange]

115. They're BAT-SHIT CRAZY people, and...

-

hopefully, they'll stop voting, because they think it's fixed.

All we can really do is hope.
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