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TheDemsshouldhireme

(172 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:10 AM Jan 2021

Worst Bill Maher ever

With a attempted insurrection taking place and the disgraceful ending of the Trump administration, Bill Maher's new season, he opens with Kellyanne Conway and give her 5 plus minutes for her to get her robot accomplishment talking point out. Then during the panel is against Trump losing his platforms, throws in Tiabbi, repeatedly makes Trump a 800 lb gorilla. Then ends with bashing California. Talk about missing the moment in history.

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Worst Bill Maher ever (Original Post) TheDemsshouldhireme Jan 2021 OP
BillyBoy and his gargantuan ego have been on a steady decline for years. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2021 #1
Such a self aggrandizing creep... Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #2
Glad I didn't see it Blue Owl Jan 2021 #3
Who? onecaliberal Jan 2021 #4
What did you expect? jcgoldie Jan 2021 #5
I thought it was possible. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #21
He wears me out redstateblues Jan 2021 #6
Thanks for the summary. I absolutely won't watch him anymore. Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #7
We must have watched a different show Generic Brad Jan 2021 #8
You know it was like TheDemsshouldhireme Jan 2021 #9
Yup, and playing his bothsiderisms in his closing remarks. I am surprised no one brought up still_one Jan 2021 #10
Can't watch him, won't watch him. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #11
You stole my thunder, Demsshouldhireme PlanetBev Jan 2021 #12
Yep.. from your description.. he totally Cha Jan 2021 #13
Why did I turn on HBO? occupant Jan 2021 #14
We gave him up ramapo Jan 2021 #15
You've described my experience perfectly. The mister still watches occasionally... NurseJackie Jan 2021 #26
Was not a good show Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #16
I will watch.... quickesst Jan 2021 #17
I enjoy his show and watch regularly. Dave Starsky Jan 2021 #25
Yes he is a enthusiastic critic of Trump and the right Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #27
So dems should never be criticized? Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #30
Never said that Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #31
He's a subversive element, always has been, but he's gotten worse Hortensis Jan 2021 #52
There is a reason he's gotten hostility from the left Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #56
More than that, I now believe his show is a waypoint for people on Hortensis Jan 2021 #66
Criticizing a rich white TV celebrity Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #69
No, the rich celebrity hurting people to be rich and famous is. Hortensis Jan 2021 #76
What democrats are political liars? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #78
Extremely few are registered Democrats, although we did see Hortensis Jan 2021 #79
Who are they? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #81
All rejectees by the Democratic electorate. Hortensis Jan 2021 #84
So all the people who ran for the democratic nomination Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #85
Excuse me, all WERE rejected. You know, campaigns based Hortensis Jan 2021 #86
So which ones were the liars? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #87
Fact check, Dem4. Being truth seekers is basic competence. nt Hortensis Jan 2021 #88
He calls Dems out on dumb stuff that they do. Dave Starsky Jan 2021 #36
Sometimes Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #38
It depends what people consider a right-wing talking point. Sympthsical Jan 2021 #44
While that might be true for some Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #51
You know he's not a great person, right? Sympthsical Jan 2021 #57
Hunter Biden has had problems Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #58
Ehhh, I don't want to get into it here Sympthsical Jan 2021 #65
And most of those problems are way in the past Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #70
Can you be more specific about the union thing? Sympthsical Jan 2021 #72
It was several years ago Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #73
I'm going to try to find that. I'm interested. Thanks for the heads up n/t Sympthsical Jan 2021 #92
Is Biden planning on making him a part of his administration? nt Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #91
Nope. It's why I don't care n/t Sympthsical Jan 2021 #93
Exactly! Silent3 Jan 2021 #55
He has common sense (most of the time) Sympthsical Jan 2021 #59
My biggest beef with Maher (which he had toned down on for a while... Silent3 Jan 2021 #64
Exactly. When he talks about health issues, he kind of has me, then he loses me Sympthsical Jan 2021 #67
One thing that especially bothered me early in the pandemic... Silent3 Jan 2021 #74
he only cares about pissing everyone off. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #45
Well, I disagree with you. Dave Starsky Jan 2021 #48
Ok. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #96
you are absolutely right quickesst Jan 2021 #100
Maher is critical of Democrats sometimes. Sometimes pointedly so. Sympthsical Jan 2021 #43
Maher could have had very different guests if he wanted JonLP24 Jan 2021 #47
Some on the Left will kill over political beliefs Sympthsical Jan 2021 #53
False equivalence with BLM protests JonLP24 Jan 2021 #62
The Insurrection was way, way, way worse than BLM Sympthsical Jan 2021 #90
Enjoy your visit. (nt) Paladin Jan 2021 #75
It's really way past time to walk away from Bill Maher. Paladin Jan 2021 #77
Well, you'll try I guess n/t Sympthsical Jan 2021 #102
So because I choose not to watch him, that means that I "want to live in a bubble and Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #94
very well put quickesst Jan 2021 #101
Thanks for the warning. I still moonscape Jan 2021 #18
I liked it. Conway looked like a fool. The discussion group had some interesting, Hoyt Jan 2021 #19
BM works at not being standard, predictable, liberal. Seems to work for him. empedocles Jan 2021 #23
Maher sounds more and more Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #20
I bet is and he is a con man himself. WyattKansas Jan 2021 #61
Was Ann Coulter not available? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #22
They had to shut down Trump's account JonLP24 Jan 2021 #24
It's a talk show and he's a comedian. betsuni Jan 2021 #28
So people shouldn't point out the truth? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #32
What truth? betsuni Jan 2021 #33
About how bad Maher's show was last night. Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #34
No it wasn't. betsuni Jan 2021 #35
In your opinion Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #37
So your opinion is truth and mine isn't? betsuni Jan 2021 #39
Never said that Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #42
"So people shouldn't point out the truth?" betsuni Jan 2021 #63
About Maher, yes Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #71
It'll be alright. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #29
Bill is yesterday's hot plate special. tavernier Jan 2021 #40
He went off again how he can't get his solar panels edhopper Jan 2021 #41
Turn it off Yeehah Jan 2021 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author mokawanis Jan 2021 #49
I used to watch the show every week mokawanis Jan 2021 #50
Bill Maher is now relevant to all discussion. SoFlaBro Jan 2021 #60
Sure, but mokawanis Jan 2021 #80
Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #97
Conway really is an effective Nazi spokeswoman. She lies and obfuscates so easily. jalan48 Jan 2021 #54
I quit watching him a year or two ago RussBLib Jan 2021 #68
He gave her 12 plus minutes, not just 5 plus. Don't go by the YouTube. gulliver Jan 2021 #82
I stopped watching him a year ago. milestogo Jan 2021 #83
He looks like he's got no sleep in the last two months. Initech Jan 2021 #89
Bill must own major stock in HBO. pwb Jan 2021 #95
Yup Bigredhunk Jan 2021 #98
There's so many to choose from! nt William769 Jan 2021 #99
I have seen worse Redleg Jan 2021 #103
Maher is for right wingers who don't see themselves that way n/t kcr Jan 2021 #104

jcgoldie

(11,582 posts)
5. What did you expect?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:14 AM
Jan 2021

That KellyAnne would be conciliatory or that Bill wouldn't kiss her ass???

Katie Couric made it bearable.

still_one

(91,937 posts)
10. Yup, and playing his bothsiderisms in his closing remarks. I am surprised no one brought up
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:18 AM
Jan 2021

the legal jeopardy trump faces when discussing how trump will be back in full force

Very unenjoyable program, and I thought making somewhat light of the insurrection

PlanetBev

(4,098 posts)
12. You stole my thunder, Demsshouldhireme
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jan 2021

I was just going to post the same thing. Lousy monologue, Kelly Ann Conway, guest planting the idea that Nikki Haley will be our next President. And, yes, bashing my state.

Fuck you, Bill, go back to New Jersey.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
13. Yep.. from your description.. he totally
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jan 2021

missed HISTORY.

KAC & Tabbi?!!! 2 Ends of the Spectrum who Hate DEMS!

When the Dems Are the WINNERS & the Magats are the fucking Terrorists.

I hate that shit..

 

occupant

(166 posts)
14. Why did I turn on HBO?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:23 AM
Jan 2021

I wasn't gonna do it. I was not going to turn the channel to HBO. Hell I was going to cancel HBO cos its boring and I'm paying for shit TV. Yet there I was watching the stupid monologue of this egotistical asshole again.Then I heard Kellyass Condick was going to be on and I gagged a little and sat there. I think I need a psych. Why would I continue to abuse my brain this way? Sure I've been watching Bill for 20+years and its habit...OMG now I understand what a cult is !

ramapo

(4,585 posts)
15. We gave him up
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:33 AM
Jan 2021

We had watched him for years. He got more and more annoying over the past year. We realized we didn’t enjoy watching the show. So we stopped. Feels good.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. You've described my experience perfectly. The mister still watches occasionally...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:14 AM
Jan 2021

... if the guests are compelling. But that's the ONLY time he'll stream the show. (Previously we'd watch "religiously" regardless of who was on.)

We used to fast-forward to the "new rules" segment so that it wouldn't be a total-washout. I figured that there might be some good jokes in there, or a decent rant at the end. But even THAT segment has gotten to be so preachy and sanctimonious.

He's gotten to be worse than some of the politicians that I despise. Ugh.

He's well beyond his peak. This is the downhill-run of his HBO show.

I knew it was "over" for him (in my mind) when he gave that Milo Something-Greek guy a platform for his anti-gay and anti-transgender viewpoints... and in the end, Maher ended up agreeing with him: "well you've got a point there" he said in response to some idiotic statement. (Probably trotting out the disproved claim that sexual deviant men were dressing as women and hanging out in women's public restrooms to get their thrills.)

In ANY case. I'm sick of him too.

We realized we didn’t enjoy watching the show. So we stopped. Feels good.
Yes it does. --- John Oliver is much more entertaining and educational.

Johnny2X2X

(18,732 posts)
16. Was not a good show
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

He’s been saying for years that Trump won’t leave if he loses. I expected the show to most mostly about how Trump wasn’t going to leave but had to be forced.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
17. I will watch....
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:36 AM
Jan 2021

....the segments mentioned in the OP tomorrow sometime, and if it turns out to be like my previous endeavors into the vilification of Bill Maher, what I will find is nothing that has been mentioned is anywhere near what was actually presented, and is usually taken out of context.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. I enjoy his show and watch regularly.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jan 2021

And, yes, the descriptions offered here never match what is truly delivered. Probably 75% of the posts are "I don't like him and refuse to watch him", which is a useless opinion anyway.

I haven't seen this episode but will probably watch tonight. He's been a persistent, vocal, and enthusiastic critic of Donald Trump and the right-wing from day one, and anyone who says differently is just not oriented to reality.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
27. Yes he is a enthusiastic critic of Trump and the right
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jan 2021

but he is also a persistent, vocal, and enthusiastic critic of the Democratic Party and the left, and anyone who says differently is just not oriented to reality.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
31. Never said that
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jan 2021

So please don’t dishonestly put words in my mouth.

But some seem to think that a rich white male TV celebrity should never be criticized and we all know where that leads.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
52. He's a subversive element, always has been, but he's gotten worse
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021

as illiberal hostility and extremism have grown on the left. It's not just happening on the right. Its something some on the left have in common with some on the right.

Something to think about is that those vulnerable to the social media algorithms that channel people along increasingly strong counterculture-to-extremist paths come from both right and left.

Preferences for naturopathic treatments, for instance, are seen among people of all degrees of mental balance on both sides. But for some vulnerable to negative, fear-based influences, triggering algorithms by googling these topics lead them to links and groups breeding increased suspicion of the FDA, GMOs, surveillance, Democrats, and from there farther and farther down the extremist rabbit hole of great, irrational certainty.

Psychiatrists have found it's extremely difficult to restore rational, reality-based thinking to people who've gone too far. Professional counseling can take months, and even years. And who gets professional counseling?

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
56. There is a reason he's gotten hostility from the left
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

Some may be unjustified but some is and there shouldn’t be a ban on pointing that out. This isn’t Bill Maher underground, it’s democratic underground and when a rich white TV celebrity, who has a history of encouraging people to vote against democrats, attacks democrats he should be called out.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. More than that, I now believe his show is a waypoint for people on
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

the disaffection-to-extremism skids. Not all viewers are, of course. Probably not even most. Just some.

But zero tolerance for politicians and entertainers who'd regard destruction of any who trust them as merely collateral damage. This is evil-doing.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
69. Criticizing a rich white TV celebrity
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

is not evil-doing. Saying that one should be immune from all criticism is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
76. No, the rich celebrity hurting people to be rich and famous is.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

Ambitious politicians who deliberately inculcate lies and destroy belief in truth and trust in what should be trusted are doing evil. We're learning a lot more about the damage systemic lies do to peoples' psyches.

WE really need to leave the days of tolerance of political liars far behind. Acceptance of massive lies is a huge part of where we the people went so wrong. It's NOT okay.

Four and five years later, those who became true believers in the lies told in 2015-2016 about elections Democrats stolen from their candidate, Democratic corruption, etc, are still lost in the ugly false reality that literally altered their minds and their patterns of thinking. Every event since has to be interpreted to fit their delusions, and is. They're not coming back, any more than many of Trump's victims are.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
79. Extremely few are registered Democrats, although we did see
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

two or three or so run in the presidential primary on the Democratic ticket. It's not normal in the Democratic Party, though, and they're extremely easy to spot by those who care.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. All rejectees by the Democratic electorate.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

We can take pride in that, and ourselves, but we need to worry about the support they did get.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
86. Excuse me, all WERE rejected. You know, campaigns based
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jan 2021

on lies, usually big lies, of course expose themselves extremely early on. You don't have to worry about missing any of them, Dem4, if you just factcheck candidate statements and backgrounds in the beginning. And cross liars and slanderers off your list, even if they promise you more than others will, which is typical.

Of course, knowing what they are makes watching them be puffed up as serious candidates by anti-Democratic agents hard to take, but at least those who do don't end up angry and even frightened that most voters turned out to be blind to the "truth" they've swallowed.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
36. He calls Dems out on dumb stuff that they do.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jan 2021

Which, for me, is not a problem. You can't improve unless you know what you're doing wrong.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
44. It depends what people consider a right-wing talking point.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:31 PM
Jan 2021

Some people frame any criticism they don't like as a right-wing talking point, no matter how valid the criticism may be.

I'm not saying you're doing that. But other people definitely do.

It has to do with the bubble and when and how it's punctured. Anything not in the bubble, that doesn't align with the accepted narrative, is a right-wing talking point with too many people. There's no conversation or debate to be had. It's like religion. You can't talk someone out of something they were never talked into.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
51. While that might be true for some
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:40 PM
Jan 2021

In the case of Maher, repeatedly referring to Hunter Biden as Joe Biden’s ne’er-do-well son is a right wing talking point.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
57. You know he's not a great person, right?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

It's a bit verboten to talk about here (this board is a bubble by design, which is fine).

I don't have great thoughts about him either. I just don't talk about it here. I'd get alert brigaded into the earth for it.

And I don't hold any of it against Joe. Biden is one of those politicians that you can sense is just a thoroughly decent person. And right now, we need a thoroughly decent President. More than ever. His son has some shit going on. And I get it. He suffered an early in life trauma that I think messed with him. It's all very understandable. I'm empathetic to it. It is what it is.

Doesn't mean Maher's opinion isn't fairly valid given the evidence.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
58. Hunter Biden has had problems
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

But he has been demonized unfairly but the right which has been given legitimacy by Maher repeatedly attacking him.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
65. Ehhh, I don't want to get into it here
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

Truly. This just isn't the place for that conversation. It'll earn hides. But, I'll just say there are a lot of problems on his end that aren't fabrications of the Right, if we're being truly honest.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
70. And most of those problems are way in the past
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jan 2021

And that’s not the only RW talking point Maher has parroted including saying that unions should be broken.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
72. Can you be more specific about the union thing?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

I'm in a union. I have some criticisms from the Left on how mine and others I'm familiar with operate. But I'm not sure I'm familiar with what Maher has said about them.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
73. It was several years ago
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jan 2021

so I don’t remember it exactly but it was in regard to demands made by the UFT and other unions during the Bush administration. He said these unions deserve to be broken. He has also criticized his own union because he thinks his dues are too high.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
55. Exactly!
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jan 2021

I think Maher is a great way for Democrats to get out of their own bubbles, without having to bathe in the sewers of Fox and OAN and NewsMax, etc., to do so.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
59. He has common sense (most of the time)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jan 2021

For me, that's a big one. People who disappear into their narratives often lack it. The past few years, his anti-woke commentary has kept me as a viewer. He goes to town on the woke stuff, and, as a gay man, I'm living for every moment of it. I'm super liberal. I identify with the AOC wing of the party. But man, I hate the woke movement. It's so over the top ridiculous and against all common sense. Every single day, it's like, "What insanity is getting promoted on Twitter now?"

The man has no patience for it, and I am there for it.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
64. My biggest beef with Maher (which he had toned down on for a while...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

...but then brought back up in a different form when COVID came along), is he overplays his fixation of "real" food.

He used to talk in a very conspiratorial way about this, as if the AMA and McDonald's were in cahoots to make people sick, and then cash out on the medical bills.

He hasn't said much of that lately, but, without any evidence, he made a lot of claims that if only we ate "real" food and exercised more, we'd hardly have to worry about COVID at all.

He's not wrong that diet and exercise can play a role in immunity, but he seems to subscribe to the totally unscientific, practically magical idea that, if you treat your body just right, you'll have nearly complete resistance to all disease.

It doesn't work that way! We don't even know how much diet and exercise (and which particular diet) would tip the scales when it comes to COVID yet.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
67. Exactly. When he talks about health issues, he kind of has me, then he loses me
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jan 2021

I do think he's correct that we have basically engineered an entire industry to treat problems another industry inflicted. We have a health care industry charging us money what the food industry has managed.

But at the end of the day, it's also a choice. Do I want swiss cake rolls or should I eat a grilled chicken spinach salad. And if I go for the cake rolls, because they're only $2 a box, is Little Debbie really to blame there?

But we do have a health and pharmaceutical industry geared towards treating a host of self-inflicted problems.

However. He goes too far. He goes into the fever swamps about vaccines and medicine. I'm sure you know those people, living their "pure" life. "I only eat the most organic of meats and cheeses," or whatever, and you're fighting to keep your eyes rolling out of your head. And if we get sick, well, we must not be taking care of ourselves properly. Like all disease is a personal choice. "Well, you ate a twinkie that one time, and that's why you have cancer."

Uh, no, Bill.

I think you and I are in agreement on this part of his schtick.

Silent3

(15,018 posts)
74. One thing that especially bothered me early in the pandemic...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

...was that Maher refused to even think of numbers and the time scales. Even if he were right about the effectiveness of good diet and exercise against COVID, we needed to be safe from the virus RIGHT AWAY. In no way, shape, or form were enough people going to change their health habits fast enough to make any significant difference.

If half the population adopted the Bill Maher diet plan overnight (which couldn't really happen, because the supply chain for food would never switch over fast enough), it would still be at best many, many months until it could make much of a difference.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
45. he only cares about pissing everyone off.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

That is how he tries to draw ratings. He tries to puss everyone off. Where Howard Stern tried to offend and shock everyone so they would listen, Maher tried to piss both sides off to get them to tune in. He is gross and not what we need. Just a puke playing on everyone’s emotions.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
48. Well, I disagree with you.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jan 2021

Kind of like I don't always agree with Maher, but I still think his show is valuable in its presentation of different viewpoints.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
100. you are absolutely right
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:48 PM
Jan 2021

He is not perfect, but on the other hand he is not the villain many people make him out to be.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
43. Maher is critical of Democrats sometimes. Sometimes pointedly so.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:28 PM
Jan 2021

Which I'm totally fine with. Sometimes the party deserves criticism. I don't always agree with him. His perilously close to anti-vaxx stuff really bothers me. But, he says what I'm thinking a lot of the time.

If you want to live in a bubble and never have your beliefs challenged or criticized, the guy isn't for you. You can tell he reads conservative news, blogs, opinion, etc. So do I. I think that's a good thing. It's important to know how the other side is viewing the world. It's important to be in that part of the conversation. Some people seal off into their world of I'm Always Right and can't abide anyone saying boo to it.

That's not me. That's not Maher. And even if I don't agree with him all the time, I'm glad people like him are out there. Liberal Democrats who aren't blind to their own side's faults.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
47. Maher could have had very different guests if he wanted
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jan 2021

Instead of people who would call the insurrection for what it is he chose to platform Kellyanne Conway when Trump administration officials caused this with their "alternative facts".








I step outside my bubble all the time and I know what the right wing coalition is like. Just because Maher criticizes Democrats doesn't mean I'm required to agree with him. Also why is he showing sympathy for someone shot that was in front of a mob that wanted to assassinate congressmen? I'm glad no elected officials were killed including Mike Pence. That is the big difference with the right, some on the right will kill over political beliefs.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
53. Some on the Left will kill over political beliefs
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jan 2021

Remember what happened to Congressman Scalise? And that shooter wanted a lot more than one congressman. He wanted a bunch of Republicans. Capitol police officers got into a gunfight with the assailant and took him down before he could effect his little mass assassination.

That one kind of went down the memory hole.

This is a bit what I mean. This idea that no one on the Left is violent. Er, did we all miss last summer? We have plenty of violence on our side. Maybe the fact I live in the Bay Area makes me more aware of it. Do you know how many times I've seen shit go down in Berkeley, Oakland, and SF? When UCB had a riot and fires because they didn't like the choice of speaker?

Maher's not a journalist. It's not his job. He's a political commentator with an edge of disdainful sarcasm. "Oh, he let KellyAnne up there and didn't ask the questions I wanted asked!" Yeah, he probably thought it'd be interesting to see what she had to say. Sometimes it's best to let people hang themselves. He had Milo Yn-something on that one time - which was hilarious, because he imploded less than a week later.

I'm cool with that. I'll agree or disagree. We don't even hold actual journalists to these standards. So why does Maher come under special scrutiny. He is what he is. Always has been. Won't change. People are acting all disappointed, as if he hasn't been doing his thing for decades.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
62. False equivalence with BLM protests
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jan 2021

The right wing tried to overturn the election. The state of Arizona was being objected to while the riot reached inside the Capitol. I voted for Joe Biden in Arizona. I would like my vote to count instead of it being thrown out in favor of a Trump dictatorship.

There are a lot of conspiracy theories regarding BLM & Antifa, often by the same group that stormed the Capitol.

Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-killed-officer-after-using-black-lives-matter-protest-as-cover-prosecutors/

Remember when Trump hid in a bunker because of BLM protests? The left made fun of him so he brutalized a peaceful protest, by all accounts, for a bible photo OP. Compare that to the insurrection. Also Proud Boys were causing violence & detruction leading up to Jan 6th including lighting a BLM sign on fire.

Proud Boys’ Hotel Hangout Shutting Down On Jan. 6 ‘Wild Protest’ Day

The Washington, D.C., hotel and bar where the white nationalist Proud Boys hang out when they’re in town for protests has announced it will be closed Jan. 6, the day Congress is scheduled to certify the Electoral College vote for President-elect Joe Biden.

It’s also the day of a planned “Wild Protest” in Washington to rail against Donald Trump’s reelection loss. The president is urging his followers to turn out that day in his desperate, last-ditch effort to stay in the White House.

A number of people were stabbed, four critically, near the Hotel Harrington in clashes Dec. 12 between the Proud Boys and counterprotesters at the last demonstration in support of Trump. The Proud Boys are known to stay at the hotel and congregate in Harry’s, the hotel bar.

The 106-year-old hotel, the city’s oldest, issued a statement Sunday saying it will be closed Jan. 4, 5 and 6 for the “safety of visitors and employees.”

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5feaac94c5b66809cb33a510

Cops were also part of the rally so if some police officers are willing to overthrow the United States government for a Trump dictatorship how often do they abuse their powers?

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
90. The Insurrection was way, way, way worse than BLM
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

I'm not beginning to debate that.

The Insurrection was unprecedented in our history. The law needs to come down and hard on all of it.

But the idea the Left doesn't have a penchant for violence and destruction is laughable. We keep telling that lie, and it's been very, very noticed.

I love Kamala Harris. I've met her. She's as awesome in person as she is on TV. Lovely person. But at the height of BLM riots, she managed: "This is a movement. I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after election day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they’re not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not.”

People saw her say that, as they watched small businesses burn down.

If that was a Republican, you'd have things to say, I think.

When the media bend over backwards to justify left-wing violence, but freak out if a conservative sneezes, conservatives notice.

And then it's all, "Why is the Right so pissed off? I mean, they have radio!" *facepalm* You seriously don't see why they are how they are?

Paladin

(28,202 posts)
77. It's really way past time to walk away from Bill Maher.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

He started talking shit about liberals years ago. His guest lineup has become more and more dependent on right-wing douchebags. He appears to regard Dennis Miller's career path as something positive. Enough already.

Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
94. So because I choose not to watch him, that means that I "want to live in a bubble and
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 03:49 PM
Jan 2021

never have my beliefs challenged or criticized"?

Thank you so much for judging me without knowing anything about me or my beliefs or my motives.

moonscape

(4,664 posts)
18. Thanks for the warning. I still
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jan 2021

Tivo him and watch when there is an interesting panel but zero in there I want to watch.

Plus, as a Californian, just no right now.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. I liked it. Conway looked like a fool. The discussion group had some interesting,
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jan 2021

but varied, opinions.

Maher is right, damn good thing trump is gone, but government needs to work and it’s often not at this point.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
61. I bet is and he is a con man himself.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jan 2021

He makes a fortune venting Democratic anger at what Republicans do, making fun of Republicans, and ridiculing Republicans, while exploiting and enjoying all the wealth breaks the Republicans provide for him and his luxury lifestyle. Like a good Libertarian, he is only for some cherry picked liberal issues he enjoys. Hell, I bet he really even votes down ticket Republican for economic reasons.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. They had to shut down Trump's account
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:25 AM
Jan 2021

You don't have an unlimited right to incite real life violence. It could have been a lot worse.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
32. So people shouldn't point out the truth?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:15 AM
Jan 2021

Does Dennis Miller get too because he’s a comedian? Does Ted Nugent get a pass because he’s a singer? I remember when Trump was pushing birtherism 10 years ago and some were ‘so what, he’s just a reality TV Star’. How did that work out?

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
71. About Maher, yes
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jan 2021

Why not? This is democratic underground, not Bill Maher underground where a rich white TV celebrity is not allowed to be criticized.

edhopper

(33,166 posts)
41. He went off again how he can't get his solar panels
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:25 PM
Jan 2021

on his house. I don't know if it's the local government in his posh neighborhood, or he just isn't doing it right. But California leads the nation by far in solar energy, 4x the next State. So maybe regulation isn't the problem.

Response to TheDemsshouldhireme (Original post)

mokawanis

(4,434 posts)
50. I used to watch the show every week
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

and then I stopped doing that and watched segments of the show on youtube, and now I ignore Maher altogether. He hasn't been funny or relevant for quite a while.

RussBLib

(8,983 posts)
68. I quit watching him a year or two ago
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jan 2021

Which is why the show is ending. He loses me, he loses his audience.

Still like to get high with him in Hawaii, however.

gulliver

(13,142 posts)
82. He gave her 12 plus minutes, not just 5 plus. Don't go by the YouTube.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:00 PM
Jan 2021

The YouTube is very heavily edited. For example, it excludes Maher's groveling thanks to Conway for appearing on his show.

It leaves out the following:

Conway: "...I'm always gonna defend the fact that there were a lot of people in this country who felt that the system didn't work for them and they wanted somebody out of...out of politics to be a true disruptor, to turn the tables upside down...

Maher: "disruptor..."

Conway: " to break some glass, and guess what?...

Maher: "Break some glass?"

Conway: "Well, yeah. And improve the economy..."

It's about 14 minutes in on the HBO Max version of the interview. I'm surprised I'm not seeing it trending somewhere.


Bigredhunk

(1,346 posts)
98. Yup
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jan 2021

He's obsessed with "cancel culture" and stuff like that (claiming liberals take it too far). He treats it like that's the equivalent of the disgusting shit conservatives do. Yeah, "cancel culture" is on par with denying people health care.

He's islamaphobic
He's transphobic
He's fatphobic
He's misogynistic

He can be really good calling out the right. But he's focused way too much on these other issues (about which he's wrong) over the past 5 years or so.

Redleg

(5,724 posts)
103. I have seen worse
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 01:47 AM
Jan 2021

After reading some of the commentary here, I watched Friday's episode and found it to be much less annoying that I was led to believe it would be.

Yes, he allowed Kellyanne to get away with a few lies but he also nailed her on a few things and generally kept up the pressure while allowing her to speak. The panel was fine with Katie Couric and Matt Jones. The tiny point about something Matt Taibbi said was not a big deal, hell, it might have even had some merit, which is unusual these days coming from Taibbi.

I expected that Maher would return to his favorite hobby horse, cancel culture, and whip that one around but he pretty much avoided going into the weeds on that one other than saying that he is concerned when Twitter bans speech.

I commend him for getting solar panels and suggest that maybe he hires a reputable contractor to get them properly installed.

Bill did seem a bit lower energy than usual, maybe a bit down, but I ask "who among us doesn't feel the same way right now?"

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