Everyone with a Parler account should be pissing their pants right... about... NOW! 💦💧

[NurseJackie]

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https://www.businessinsider.com/parler-shared-information-fbi-capitol-riot-suspect-2021-1

• Parler is sharing information with the FBI on federal investigations into the Capitol riot.

• An FBI affidavit shows that Parler gave information that helped FBI agents identify and locate a Proud Boys supporter arrested on suspicion of making threats on Parler.

• Tech companies typically help law-enforcement agencies with these types of requests. But the cooperation could have unusually significant consequences for Parler users who organized violence at the Capitol on January 6.

Parler is sharing information with the FBI for the Department of Justice's investigations into the riot at the US Capitol.

An affidavit from an FBI special agent filed in court Tuesday says Eduardo Florea stockpiled more than 1,000 rounds of ammo and threatened to kill Sen.-elect Raphael Warnock of Georgia.

The affidavit says the FBI received records from Parler to identify the user behind the account "LoneWolfWar," where the threats originated. Parler provided the phone number associated with the account, the affidavit says, and the FBI used it, and info from T-Mobile, to identify Florea.

[EarthFirst]

1. Shouldn't be difficult with a drivers license and SSN...

Morons.

[calguy]

8. While it has for sure been under attack these past four years

I would think the vast majority of the career rank and file are still there. They've seen what has happened and have been "hunkering down", so to speak, protecting themselves and their careers against the trump assault. Now that trump is almost gone, they are free to launch a counter attack. Fueled by four years of rage built up as trump tried to destroy the Department they love, they will be more motivated than ever before.
I'm also thinking that as investigators, they've seen a lot of questionable activities by trump's appointees, and instead of speaking up, they've been taking notes and taking names. A lot of heavy shit my be about to hit the fan.
One can only hope.

[Auggie]

16. I believe you are correct ...

well said, BTW

[KS Toronado]

26. That's exactly what's been happening with the rank & file agents

I expect the full un-redacted Mueller Report will see the light of day shortly after Biden takes over.
And will probably be a footnote in the news after the pandemic and trump's daily musings.

[2naSalit]

28. +1

[JohnnyRingo]

39. I want that to be true.

We know that in order to be an agent, one has to have a stick up one's ass the size of the flag pole Trumpers used to beat cops with. Even more than that of a State Patrolman.

The great majority are serious enough about that oath that their own mothers have to walk the straight and narrow.

It would be impossible to pass the word down the ranks that agents have a new master they have to obey and excuse at all costs.

[GoCubsGo]

48. Yep, and I'm betting they're really pissed off at this point.

He trashed the Bureau and tried to turn them into The Enemy. I have little doubt that they have been taking notes and taking names. Don't be surprised if Trump's enablers all start fleeing the country over the next week. They're likely in even deeper shit.

[calimary]

54. Yep. A LOT of us share that particular hope.

[Cozmo]

19. The FBI is run and populated with repugs. I don't think we are safe with Wray at the helm

[IronLionZion]

51. 4 Days until Merrick Garland takes charge of Justice Dept.

Wray has contradicted Trump on voter fraud and more, so it shouldn't be a problem for Biden to keep him as FBI director. If he becomes a problem, he can be fired and replaced.

Garland will definitely prosecute and actually seek justice again, unlike Barr. He has experience with this.

[calguy]

60. Garland also has an axe to grind

I bet Garland hasn't forgotten that he should sitting on the Supreme Court instead of Neil Gorsuch. Garland will have no sympathy for the Republicans and I think he will quietly grind his ax without them even knowing the wheel is turning.

[FormerDittoHead]

52. We must be skeptical about the FBI...

CULTURE is not recorded conversations, signed documents and ceremonies. It's a tacit acceptance of norms and where one draws the line. It's an acceptance of who one can trust and who should be suspected. In an organization whose structure involves partners and close working teams, we must remain vigilant.

I don't believe that 4 years of Trump "loyalty" appointments and hires, working with other branches of "loyalty tested" of DOJ, etc... that there could be any greater "neutrality" in the FBI today than in 2016 when it was called "Trumpland".

Off the top of my head I remember reading how in 2016, Comey felt alienated in the FBI for failing to push the investigations into the Clintons based upon the Steve Bannon project "Clinton Cash" which was basically a list of the donors to the Clinton Foundation and drawing Glenn Beck whiteboard connections.

I remember reading how Comey would walk down the halls of the FBI building, feeling alone. That's the effect of culture.

I'm absolutely sure that his biased enforcement and breaking of clear DOJ rules, his covering up the investigation into Trump's campaign and his 11th hour announcements of Wiener's laptop (which had been in-hand for weeks, and should have taken an afternoon to have checked and NEVER ONCE FOUND ANYTHING)...

...and then Comey was only too happy to have fucking Trump kiss him on the cheek only to have been repelled by Trump's true nature. Unfortunately, Comey was a 'traditional' Republican and not a 'mob' Republican who would surely use him up and spit him out...

...and I STILL haven't forgotten the "mysterious" 11th hour timing of the FBI's otherwise dormant Twitter feed suddenly springing to life with tweets about Clinton investigations... https://www.vice.com/en/article/nek55w/a-technical-malfunction-made-an-fbi-twitter-account-seem-anti-clinton-in-the-final-days-of-the-election

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

77. Yeah. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I'm surprised any DUers think

the FBI might have set up Parler as a trap for RWers. I'd be very happy to be proven wrong, but I'd be shocked to find that they don't lean more toward being RWers themselves.

[Dawson Leery]

69. The enforcement power of the state does not apply to the right.

So they believe.

[WinstonSmith4740]

3. OMG!

I love the smell of fascists turning on each other in the morning.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Yeah, and think of how many insurrectionists are cooperating

to lessen their own criminal liability. That's why things appear to move slowly. Below the radar though, justice marches on.

[Loki Liesmith]

5. Is far right politics a growing thing with some Latino men?

[okaawhatever]

15. Yes. They like the machismo thing. Trump picked up a lot of votes in FL. nt

[flamin lib]

40. Careful with the stereotyping. The 'machismo thing' is a product of a broken chromosome and

testosterone poisoning, not ethnicity.

I know, I've suffered from both in my life

[Turin_C3PO]

32. In some areas.

I think in Florida and Texas he picked up support from more Hispanic men. But here in NM and Arizona Hispanic males supported him at the same level as they did GW Bush and other Republicans, which is to say about 38% of Latin men voted Trump.

[onetexan]

33. I will never understand this phenomenon, nor the fact there are people of color who vote GOP

The party of racism & bigotry.

[Hekate]

66. Hispanic and Latino are very very broad categories of both color & origin...

...not to mention length of ancestral ties in the US.

[Wicked Blue]

34. Many Cuban-Americans have been vehemently anti-Communist

because of Castro. Their political views differ somewhat from Latinos from other backgrounds.

[certainot]

49. it's the talk radio that putin has been using. brazil's bolsanaro credited the 'brazillian limbaugh'

with his success - and the guy broadcasts from virginia.

it wouldn't be hard to buy up a bunch of spanish-speaking radio stations and put on some rw blowhards - which is probably what they did. roger stone credited one of those miami/cuba stations for success in 2000.

they all need to be boycotted

[summer_in_TX]

73. I want each to be required to broadcast

differing points of view, like when the Fairness Doctrine was in effect still.

Boycotting would be great if we could control it and make it happen. But requiring all our media to have public interest obligations seems do-able. It'd take a BIG new Communications Act, and a different justification than 1934 when it was limited airwaves.

How about preserving democracy by not allowing one-sided presentations?

[jaxexpat]

78. It's even easier than that. Preserve democracy. Allow only the truth of things.

[tiptonic]

6. A lot

A lot of these people could go to jail. While trump is playing golf, at one of his resorts. Good deal.

[Iliyah]

7. Is it that the RWers had . . .

assurance from top justice officials along with republican congress as well as social media that their hatred and planned violence against the USA would not become known? That their identities would not be exposed?

I am mean look at the republican congress giving a tour of the Capitol Building a day before the terrorist attack. Look at republican senate and house trying to overturn the election constantly spewing outright lies. I wonder did they believe that the coup would work?

This is beyond logic.

[apnu]

9. It is not clear that Parler is cooperating with the Feds

From the article:

“ It's not clear whether Parler handed over the account information to the FBI after the Department of Justice issued a warrant or subpoena for it or whether the company gave the information over of its own accord.”

Also their hosting provider, Amazon could be, and by many media accounts is, assisting. Additionally there are the reports of white hat hackers archiving all of Parler just before it was shut down by Amazon.

The FBI, of course, is not going to say, at this time, the source of the evidence it is acting on.

[NurseJackie]

12. I understand. But, that seems to be a distinction without much of a difference...

... in the end, the authorities receive the information needed.

[apnu]

36. Except that the article is poorly written and sourced

My dig was at that, not you.

[NurseJackie]

38. Thanks... I understand that too... and I agree with your analysis.

It won't win a Pulitzer, that's for sure.

[Roy Rolling]

10. Shared?

I thought Parler’s sloppy programming exposed everyone’s data to the public?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

11. I was THIS CLOSE to getting a Parler account.

Just to see if it was anything like JackPine Radicals' site.

But, it seemed they wanted too much real info about me. So I backed away, slowly.

[NurseJackie]

14. Very wise decision.

I've watch enough TV dramas to know that even in the physical world... the fire inspectors start looking at photos of the spectators behind the police lines in their search for the arsonist.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

13. Ha ha ha!

[marble falls]

17. Like I always knew as a kid: there were consequences and no results were ever 'guarantied' ...

... they meant to harm. They didn't stop, they were thwarted by their own stupidity.

I'm tired of being nice about it.

[marble falls]

62. Four more days, dude. Just four more days. Take some deep breaths, close your eyes and go ...

... to your happy place ...

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[marble falls]

64. Hey man, we're all in it together.

[George II]

18. Who knows, maybe Parler was an FBI operation to keep track of right wing conspirators?

Who is stupid enough to sign up on a website and give them their social security number and personal information?

[gordianot]

23. I wondered the same thing when I read the membership requirements last month.

A huge Venus Fly Trap.

[Thekaspervote]

37. Parler was funded by the Mercer's to gather info, just like they did with Cambridge analytica

[DSandra]

59. I figured six months ago that that's how you fight these guys

You trick them and trap them, because they are pretty damn gullible.

[Jon King]

21. Parler had a strange set up of ownership....

The CEO meets this beautiful young Russian woman, marries her, then soon after starts Parler with funding from the Mercers, a right wing wealthy family.

Be funny if the entire thing was an FBI set up from the start. But more likely just a Russian disinformation campaign to destabilize the US.

Best thing that CEO could do is cooperate fully with the FBI. I think he was used by Russian intelligence.

[thinkingagain]

22. Could parler been a set up by the fbi?

I mean give me your id etc

And then there is The old saying
“ come into my parler said the spider to the fly”.
I know there was a white hat hacker that has helped with info.
Even if it a fbi trap wasn’t I love how the info on it is helping get these people.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. You only had to give your ID if you wanted to be deemed equiv of "verified" to monetize your content

As far as I know, from reading about it. I couldn't be bothered to go there.

[Mr.Bill]

68. At the very least, I'm sure the FBI

had people working there undercover. The FBI infiltrates the bad guys, or at least talks someone in there into flipping. They've always worked like that. It's economical and effective. Way cheaper than a SWAT team.

[SmartVoter22]

27. Reality comes to roost

These right wingers think that they have 100% complete privacy and that they can conspire online without getting caught.

Like a bar or restaurant, the 'online chat/messaging' companies can refuse service to anyone for any reason.

I hope the FBI can discover the individuals, who have been conspiring online and take them all down.

I, myself, respect a company that offers me a service, like chat/messaging. I appreciate their efforts to provide me with these kinds of services. It helps us all communicate with others; mainly family & friends in a safe, easy method.

To assume you have some unlimited right to do whatever you want, wherever you are and with anybody you want is not only naive, it's being proven to be quite dangerous for many.

Cheers to the FBI, CIA, Apple, Google and Amazon for making sure we have these services and that we are all protected with the full assistance of our government's security agencies from the insidious trouble makers that is the Republican party.

[Jon King]

29. Link to story on Parler CEO and his Russian bride...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9132371/How-libertarian-Parler-CEO-married-Russian-met-road-trip-founding-platform.html

Hmmm. He just happened to meet this Russian woman.

[NurseJackie]

30. Thank you! Great info.

[Jon King]

31. You are welcome, sure seems fishy!

An average looking guy just happens to meet a young, beautiful Russian girl, then just happens to start a far right wing hub of activity, funded by an ultra right wing family.

Yup, all just coincidence I am sure!!

[dalton99a]

41. +1

[LAS14]

42. I got an account on Parler, to see what was going on. I don't mind a visit from the FBI. I'd..

... be glad to see they're doing their jobs. Although if they visited me it might be an indication that they can't think straight about their priorities.

Hubby was very active during Vietnam, appeared in leadership at some well covered events. He was indignant to find out that there was almost nothing in his FBI file when they were finally released. I think I've got that straight. Were they released?

[TripleKatPad]

43. I spent 3 glorious weeks on Parler

I created an account on Parler--you don't give SSN or DL unless you want to be a "verified" account, which I did not. I started responding to posts about three weeks before they went dark.

I had a fabulous time dropping truth bombs on their pointy heads. I avoided profanity and name-calling, since that seemed counter-productive. Instead I shared inconvenient truths to confound them. Sure, I received threatening, profanity-filled responses, but I usually didn't read them. I wasn't there to get in fights with people unable to form a proper sentence. Occasionally, I would compliment them on their scintillating MAGA repartee or correct their grammar, but mostly I ignored/laughed at their libtard-laced responses.

There were many other resisters there doing similar work. I miss it. Gab and CloutHub are impossible to use and I prefer to avoid MAGA on Twitter. So, for the time being, I've retired my Big Stick of Tough Love, as I liked to call it.

[NurseJackie]

45. You're braver than I am. I stayed away from "Discussionist" and "Jack Pine Radicals" too.

[barbtries]

44. bet they round up

some congress critters while they're at it.

[NurseJackie]

46. I believe you may be correct...

... it's only a matter of time.

Tick tock!

[BlueWavePsych]

50. Driver's license cross-referenced with anything equals ?

Identity (anywhere)

[Baclava]

53. Anyone with a recently renewed license photo has been biometrically scanned in, Real ID

[NurseJackie]

56. Positive ID is required (in most cases) for a cell phone...

... other than burner-phones.

All those people who were filming and uploading (and even the ones who simply had their phones in their pocket) will be visited by the FBI.

[DesertRat]

55. k&r

[MicaelS]

57. It would be funny as shit if Parler was ....

A setup from the beginning .

[Initech]

58. Hey Proud Boys! Your anonymous account isn't really that anonymous!

[Tarc]

61. A moment of silence for the poor souls at Parler who are about to get their world upended

[BlueWavePsych]

67. Luv this clip

[oasis]

65. Lock them up.

[Orrex]

70. How long until Reichwing cultists declare that Parler itself was a Deep State sting operation?

[BainsBane]

71. This is why the CEO is getting death threats.

[Cha]

72. Good News for Democracy!

TY

[demtenjeep]

74. nothing on the internet disappears

trying to impress that fact on my students.

they think if they delete something it is gone.

[BobTheSubgenius]

75. Rounding them all up, and the blowback causing Parler to shutter its doors?

Best outcome ever!!!

[h2ebits]

76. I read at one point. . . .

that Robert Mercer had a 50% ownership of Parler. Remember Mercer--Steve Bannon--Cambridge Analytica. . . .I can't imagine Parler's owners handing over info out of the goodness of their hearts.