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demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:46 PM Jan 2021

Zip-tie guy's mom is arrested:

JUST IN: Remember zip-tie guy in the Senate, Eric Munchel? The FBI just arrested his mom, Lisa Eisenhart, who accompanied him.

According to the statement of the facts, EISENHART also had flex cuffs and was part of a mob that chased police officers inside the Capitol.

SIGNIFICANT: Munchel and Eisenhart aren't just being charged for their actions on Jan. 6. They're being charged with *conspiracy* with "persons known and unknown" to authorities >>>




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Zip-tie guy's mom is arrested: (Original Post) demmiblue Jan 2021 OP
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #1
Was she too just tidying up, and found them on the floor, and worried about people tripping? BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #2
What, really? Omg, I missed that one. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2021 #55
Different guy genxlib Jan 2021 #79
Thanks! Still, who makes excuses like that?? BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2021 #117
Who Brings His Mommy To The Revolution? COL Mustard Jan 2021 #122
Typical Mother....... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #94
The family that betrays together, pays together... Silent3 Jan 2021 #3
And then stays together in prison! MLAA Jan 2021 #42
You mean he gets to have Mommy WITH him? halfulglas Jan 2021 #59
Preys together, hopes to slay together central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #111
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #4
"Remember zip-tie guy in the Senate, Eric Munchel?" ZZenith Jan 2021 #5
Good point. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #50
As a mom of 3 adult sons Ohiogal Jan 2021 #6
seriously boggles the mind. Sick Mo-fos. Would like to know how they got so twisted though.... n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #56
And . . . . . Is she a "Mom" or a "No Mom"? no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #7
Yesssssssssssssss! I've been wondering about her. SMC22307 Jan 2021 #8
And it's up against the wall, you redneck's mother. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2021 #9
Dynamic Duo Goonch Jan 2021 #10
Looks like Kathy Bates in Misery. n/t cureautismnow Jan 2021 #15
Kathy Bates is a favorite of mine twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #118
But he's such a good boy. He helped his mother down the steps..... Nevilledog Jan 2021 #20
What's that strapped to the good boy's hip? PNW-Dem Jan 2021 #73
How ironic that these gun nuts won't be allowed to have them for years flibbitygiblets Jan 2021 #75
Probably a tazer gun. drray23 Jan 2021 #104
He could have taken her to dinner in DC, but noooooo irisblue Jan 2021 #21
Ha ha ha!! BComplex Jan 2021 #38
LOLOLOL HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #54
Ha! lunatica Jan 2021 #74
Well, she looks like a nice person Botany Jan 2021 #22
Yes. Because there's the follow up. Bless her heart. sarge43 Jan 2021 #41
Just as sweet as apple pie. Bless her heart. Botany Jan 2021 #115
Trump complained his supporters looked "low class" that day. He was right about that! nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #31
Actually, he was wrong. They don't just... 3catwoman3 Jan 2021 #46
In other words, just like Trump, wnylib Jan 2021 #86
Who would believe . . . Larissa Jan 2021 #114
I wish the media and social media would repeat that a lot. lunatica Jan 2021 #76
Would another word for that be UpInArms Jan 2021 #91
Any non-military person dressed up in military type clothes Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #92
They sure don't look like Antifa....... secondwind Jan 2021 #52
Well, she seems nice. soldierant Jan 2021 #61
Sometimes the picture of the person actually matches the crime. She even looks bitter and honery. IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #84
Thanks for the pic of them - fkn lunatics. nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #97
Good news! Baked Potato Jan 2021 #11
Amazing how the paramilitary types, not just the QAnon crazies, Hortensis Jan 2021 #12
I've become convinced that cause and effect consequences lunatica Jan 2021 #78
Under the influence of groupthink? I've seen it too, just not so many Hortensis Jan 2021 #80
Yes. I have the same depressing reaction lunatica Jan 2021 #83
Yes. I'd once read that some from the Third Reich never changed Hortensis Jan 2021 #87
Wow! They both found flexcuffs Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #13
Insurrection... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #14
She could drive her underage son with his illegal rifle to Wisconsin to kill people. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #16
I think you are confusing Tennessee zip tie guy #1 bartender with Rittenhouse in Wisconsin. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #63
No. Just using them as an example of motherly love. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #68
Yeah, Rittenhouse's mother is training him to be an alcoholic. 3 beers at age 18 in a bar Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #71
I think he's joking. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #70
They're being charged with *conspiracy* with "persons known and unknown" Botany Jan 2021 #17
Donald J. Trump a/k/a "Individual One." OMGWTF Jan 2021 #27
These idiots should know that if they called from inside the capitol the FBI/Capitol police ... Botany Jan 2021 #116
Everybody is forgetting Traildogbob Jan 2021 #32
I'm wondering the same thing Deuxcents Jan 2021 #69
And audio Traildogbob Jan 2021 #72
To paraphrase a saying from wnylib Jan 2021 #90
Big MaMa occupant Jan 2021 #18
Teach your children well. Or teach them how to riot. Cousin Dupree Jan 2021 #19
Treason is as treason does. 11 Bravo Jan 2021 #23
Stupidity runs in this family Gothmog Jan 2021 #24
Was she Traildogbob Jan 2021 #28
Hey, I giggled just thinking of it! Chemisse Jan 2021 #77
We teachers have a saying... BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #34
And our most informative years are from birth to age seven MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #40
"Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man." csziggy Jan 2021 #93
That reminds me of the British documentary series "7 Up" BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #95
It could be one of the reasons they made the documentary series. nt csziggy Jan 2021 #100
I remember the opening of the film BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #102
Teachers are constrained by set curricula and pressure to teach for the test. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #64
What kind of person brings his mother to an insurrection? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #25
Ya, you'd think!! ClusterFreak Jan 2021 #30
Mother's Day came very early this year! colorado_ufo Jan 2021 #37
"In case of accidents he always brought his mom....." panader0 Jan 2021 #58
"Our Bill, he looked so fierce..." ChazInAz Jan 2021 #89
You're assuming she didn't want to be there sweetloukillbot Jan 2021 #81
I was making a joke. Obviously she wanted to be there. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #82
COOL Leghorn21 Jan 2021 #26
Was it "Take Your Mom To The Insurrection Day" last week? ClusterFreak Jan 2021 #29
And the Hits . . . just keep on comin'! NBachers Jan 2021 #33
LOL llmart Jan 2021 #101
It really sounds best out of a car radio, or a mono AM radio speaker. NBachers Jan 2021 #106
Ha! llmart Jan 2021 #110
Zip-tie guy's mom. I think I have Bingo! Jetheels Jan 2021 #35
No way! No f-ing way FakeNoose Jan 2021 #57
Just Hope Trump Doesn't Pardon OhioTim Jan 2021 #36
The family that traitors together. Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #39
Why is it that all these rough, tough MAGA "men" have to rely on assistance from their mamas? George II Jan 2021 #43
2 to 1 Eric ratted out his mom. paleotn Jan 2021 #44
GITMO! BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #45
"Nobody knows more about duping gullible citizens into violent sedition". lambchopp59 Jan 2021 #47
It's a Family Affair world wide wally Jan 2021 #48
I guess getting a pedicure together just wasn't exciting enough ornotna Jan 2021 #49
I wonder if in her fantasies she is a "Spartan mother" raising her son to be a warrior? Hekate Jan 2021 #51
Herly Merly. I guess one drove whilst the other slept allerway from Tennessee. marble falls Jan 2021 #53
Conspiracy charges are a big deal... Jon King Jan 2021 #60
If 2 people went in the same car, wouldn't that be a conspiracy? marie999 Jan 2021 #103
A little mother - son bonding time? Some moms take their son to a ball game. But nooooo. yellowcanine Jan 2021 #62
Can they bunk together? Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #65
I'd read she bought their airline tickets! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #66
Rt TY.. Not So much Fun NOW.. is it? Cha Jan 2021 #67
A Mother/Son team blue-wave Jan 2021 #85
From your link UpInArms Jan 2021 #98
What a great mom!! tavernier Jan 2021 #88
Lol! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #107
Seriously, Who Takes His Mommy To The Revolution??? COL Mustard Jan 2021 #96
RW propaganda brainwashes an entire family. Ligyron Jan 2021 #99
The company that makes Tiki Torches just wrote a sympathy letter to the Zip-Tie company. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #105
The Tiki-Torchers Larissa Jan 2021 #109
When they took him into custody, I hope they zip-tied him. calimary Jan 2021 #108
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #113
"My mother went to Washington and all I got was this lousy indictment..." brooklynite Jan 2021 #119
Good. She's old enough to know better. ecstatic Jan 2021 #120
The rotten apple Jakes Progress Jan 2021 #121

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
2. Was she too just tidying up, and found them on the floor, and worried about people tripping?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jan 2021

That's what the AF Lt. Col. said.

MyOwnPeace

(16,919 posts)
94. Typical Mother.......
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jan 2021

"Now look what you boys did! I don't know why you hang around with those hoodlums!
Now go to your room while I clean up this mess!!!

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
8. Yesssssssssssssss! I've been wondering about her.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jan 2021

Thank you to the Twitter sleuths who captured images of the two of them walking up the Capitol stairs and then in the hotel lobby together. And whatever else helped nail these two losers...

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
73. What's that strapped to the good boy's hip?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jan 2021

Looks like a handgun. Aren't they illegal with in the district? Perhaps another charge to add to the counts?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
75. How ironic that these gun nuts won't be allowed to have them for years
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

and they did it to themselves. (Not that they won't blame the "radical left". Self-reflection is clearly not a 2021 New Year's resolution for this crowd.)

Botany

(70,447 posts)
115. Just as sweet as apple pie. Bless her heart.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

Who says listening to hate talk radio for 30 years makes you mean?

3catwoman3

(23,950 posts)
46. Actually, he was wrong. They don't just...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jan 2021

...look, low class, they ARE low class. Or even NO class.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
86. In other words, just like Trump,
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jan 2021

minus the (claimed) wealth.

And he said they were "special" and that he loved them. We all heard it. How could he turn on his beloved special people, so much like himself?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
76. I wish the media and social media would repeat that a lot.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:16 PM
Jan 2021

It would piss off some of his followers. No one strives to be low class.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
92. Any non-military person dressed up in military type clothes
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:49 PM
Jan 2021

looks low class. All those Proud Boys and Oath Keepers look like friggin idiots to me.

(Unless it is for Halloween or something like that)

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
84. Sometimes the picture of the person actually matches the crime. She even looks bitter and honery.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jan 2021

Thanks for posting the picture. I know it's sort of a pain in the butt. But it really adds to the story.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Amazing how the paramilitary types, not just the QAnon crazies,
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

believed they were going to take over and didn't worry about consequences pf losing. Maybe I should say scary, but the only thing they came close to was murdering a bunch of people in congress, maybe the VP, but that's far, far from taking control of government. Maybe some expected to die in a standoff?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
78. I've become convinced that cause and effect consequences
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jan 2021

are lacking in a large portion of people. What to some people is obvious simply plays no part in their thinking process.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. Under the influence of groupthink? I've seen it too, just not so many
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jan 2021

with such enormous possible consequences. Wow.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
83. Yes. I have the same depressing reaction
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

It’s not that I have to accept these kind of people. It’s that there a so many millions of them!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
87. Yes. I'd once read that some from the Third Reich never changed
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jan 2021

their thinking while the rest of the nation determinedly wiped that era out of the national consciousness. I didn't know then that radicalizing brains could be...indefinitely, perhaps permanent, though.

Those here who are too far gone to somehow once again become the people they were (better than this!) are going to have a bitter political future.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
13. Wow! They both found flexcuffs
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

lying on the ground? I’m just confused about why they didn’t give them to those police officers. That must have been why they were chasing them, to give them the flexcuffs.


On a more serious note, they are effing toast.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
14. Insurrection...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

the traitorous game the whole family can play.

It's nice to see a young man doing activities with his mother. She must be so proud.

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
16. She could drive her underage son with his illegal rifle to Wisconsin to kill people.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jan 2021

She could drive her underage son with his illegal rifle to Wisconsin to kill people.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
71. Yeah, Rittenhouse's mother is training him to be an alcoholic. 3 beers at age 18 in a bar
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jan 2021

... legally, but still, why does she find that necessary, and a little guy like that would be drunk, unless his liver was well trained already.

How many beers did he have on his fateful night after to calm his nerves or maybe even before?

Botany

(70,447 posts)
17. They're being charged with *conspiracy* with "persons known and unknown"
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jan 2021

Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, and Stephan Miller?

Botany

(70,447 posts)
116. These idiots should know that if they called from inside the capitol the FBI/Capitol police ...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jan 2021

.... know about it and will be able to figure out who "the person" called.

Please Dear God let it be Roger Stone.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
32. Everybody is forgetting
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jan 2021

Alex Jones. Why is he not in jail. He was the loudest voice pushing the insurrection, stating he was asked to lead the charge.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
72. And audio
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jan 2021

From his show days leading up to the attack, cheering it on and bragging about his participation, and rallying his cult fools, Lizard people and gay frogs.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
90. To paraphrase a saying from
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

Watergate: Who knew what, when did they know it, and with whom did they share it?

BigmanPigman

(51,568 posts)
34. We teachers have a saying...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jan 2021

"The nut doesn't fall far from the tree". I wish people would stop blaming educators for the problems in the US. Teachers can only teach so much; Civics, History, etc. The parents are the main source of influence. Don't blame the teachers or education without looking at their home environment.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
93. "Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jan 2021
That sentence is a famous saying and is attributed to St. Ignatius Loyola and also to Aristotle. Some say it is a 'Jesuit' saying. St. Ignatius was the founder of the Jesuit order.
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/give-me-a-child-until-he-is-seven-and-i-will-show-you-the-man.3457645/

BigmanPigman

(51,568 posts)
95. That reminds me of the British documentary series "7 Up"
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jan 2021


The filmakers followed several people from the time thwy were 7 to 42 in 7 year intervals. They looked at all the factors that make a person the way they are.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,609 posts)
25. What kind of person brings his mother to an insurrection?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jan 2021

I know a lot of these incel losers probably live in their mothers' basements and can't function unless somebody makes their meals and does their laundry for them, but you'd think they could at least overthrow the government without Mom holding their hand.

sweetloukillbot

(10,972 posts)
81. You're assuming she didn't want to be there
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jan 2021

Don't excuse her actions by saying her son just brought her along.

llmart

(15,533 posts)
110. Ha!
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:54 PM
Jan 2021

Remember when we thought FM was the cat's meow when it came out???

Yes, I had a used VW Beetle with that tinny sounding radio and probably all of three stations that came in.

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Why is it that all these rough, tough MAGA "men" have to rely on assistance from their mamas?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:19 PM
Jan 2021

At least two of the guys arrested were helped by their mothers, then there's Boebert who got her mother to help direct the insurrectionists and last, and most certainly the least, that Kyle asshole (don't even want to type his last name) who had his mother drive him to his murder spree in Kenosha.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
47. "Nobody knows more about duping gullible citizens into violent sedition".
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:27 PM
Jan 2021

He did say that didn't he? I could have sworn... well, it would be the only "nobody knows more" I would believe.

ornotna

(10,795 posts)
49. I guess getting a pedicure together just wasn't exciting enough
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:29 PM
Jan 2021
https://dailymom.com/nurture/10-activities-grow-mother-son-relationship/

It is important for men to take care of their feet too, so what better way to grow your mother-son relationship than with a pedicure? Spend an hour getting foot rubs and relaxing in massage chairs. He may enjoy picking out a neon orange or funky blue nail polish, or will at least enjoy the massage, from the millions of options they have at the nail salon, and you will have a great opportunity to relax while you sit and chat together.









Jon King

(1,910 posts)
60. Conspiracy charges are a big deal...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

Once Garland takes over DOJ, hope there are lots of conspiracy cases built. Once they start seeing 10-15-20 year sentences, most of these crack pots will be slapped awake.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
98. From your link
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:05 PM
Jan 2021
"Same as our forefathers, who established this country in 1776. It was a kind of flexing of muscles."


Additionally, Eisenhart, who is a nurse at a hospital, claimed to have driven her and her son from Tennessee to Washington DC in an effort to protest the “stealing of votes” by the Democrats.

She slammed Democrats for having "everything – the media, organizations, the government."

"We have to organize if we’re going to fight back and be heard," she said.

"This country was founded on revolution. If they’re going to take every legitimate means from us, and we can’t even express ourselves on the internet, we won’t even be able to speak freely, what is America for?

"I'd rather die as a 57-year-old woman than live under oppression. I’d rather die and would rather fight," she added.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
88. What a great mom!!
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jan 2021

Don’t forget your flex cuffs in case you want to hang somebody! And then we’ll have hot chocolate with little marshmallows when you get home.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
99. RW propaganda brainwashes an entire family.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:05 PM
Jan 2021

It's happened far too many times with absolutely no pushback from our side.

105. The company that makes Tiki Torches just wrote a sympathy letter to the Zip-Tie company.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021

Nothing like having your company's product name associated with a right-wing Nazi protest to drive sales down.

Larissa

(788 posts)
109. The Tiki-Torchers
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jan 2021

Not the sharpest knives in the drawer. The Tiki flames made it easier to I.D. them. The similar situation with the Capitol rioters. Too big and bad to wear Covid masks made the I.D. of their mugs easier. There's a reason why bank robbers wear masks. And the pièce de résistance was the Capitol rioter who wore his job I.D. in plain view on his chest. Breathtaking.

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ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
120. Good. She's old enough to know better.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

Anyone with a lick of common sense who wasn't complicit would have said no.

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