I was hesitant to post this, but IF true, bye bye Rep Boebert

[hlthe2b]

--a compelling (enhanced) facial recognition comparison to Malcolm Nance as well it would appear... We shall see... (Clicking on the video in the third tweet shows the overlay)

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Lunabell]

1. Looks an awful lot like her.

Lock her up!

[dalton99a]

2. Makes ya wonder why it takes so long for people to identify her to the FBI

[doublethink]

19. See post 17 in this thread. Interesting. n.t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

61. Further, Boebert's communications director resigned. May be unable to support the alibi

... or simply upset at being used if the letter came as a shock saying she was with staff in another building.

[SMC22307]

3. #SqueakyBoebert...

That's the winner.

[BusyBeingBest]

4. Pink Hat is too thin, I believe. Mom of Boebert too broad up top.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. "Stouter" people wear thinner clothing in cold, it can be deceptive. Also formal pose vs relaxed

For formal pictures, posed pictures, I think she brings her shoulders back and puffs out a bit. Unposed and unpoised between Breaking & Entering, she would naturally take a more relaxed posture and wouldn't seem as "big" up front.

We see wider people and our minds kind of automatically expect an extra layer or two of thickness underneath.

So heavier people can look much like thinner people in cold weather.

[honest.abe]

5. That's compelling evidence.

I agree. Its her.

[stillcool]

6. too far for me...

but I can hope.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. Still Not Seeing It

If I'm wrong, that's ok. As long as they nail that woman with every law they can find, I'll be pleased.
But, I still don't see the "dead ringer", 100% sure it's her. Even with the video analysis.
Hoping it's true, but not optimistic.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

85. I'm certainly not 100% sure either, but there's a lot...

... of eerie similarities for their facial features.

Probably won't know with certainty until the FBI arrests Bullhorn Lady.

[ProfessorGAC]

92. After Watching That Racist Video She Made...

...I hear 2 different speaking voices. She was yelling in both.
I will admit that in the video she seemed 3/4ths in the bag.
That would explain voice cadence differences, I suppose.
But, I also have a logic barrier.
She was there for a few hours on tour, then clearly remembered shortcuts, and room connections on the lower level?
The bullhorn instructions seemed too detailed to be provided by somebody who was there for 3 hours.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

102. Extraordinary claims require...

... extraordinary evidence, and it hasn't reached that level for me yet.

I just can't discount it based on the facial similarities that I've seen:

1. Mouth/cheeks/chin, as focused upon in the overlap video.
2. Nose, with the same faint "crease" at the end of it based on another pic of Q*bert's mother. (If you know what that nose feature is called, please tell me. LOL!)
3. Forehead wrinkles with the same pattern, as pointed out by comparing yet other pics. (The wrinkles converged towards each other the same way above their left eyes.)

It's also crossed my mind that people can play tricks with photoshopping, so that's another thought that gives me pause.

[ProfessorGAC]

103. Totally With You! (eom)

[BComplex]

8. The FBI's facial recognition will definitely help to decide.

That would make me really really mad if it's true. I would hope they would lock both mother and daughter away forever, if that's the case.

[MiniMe]

9. "This is not available to you"

[hlthe2b]

10. I'm not registered on twitter & linked to the internet version. May be your browser/pop up blocker

is causing you problems?

[MiniMe]

12. I'm not a twitter user

I guess like the anti-facebook people, I just don't want to sign up.

[hlthe2b]

14. As I said, I'm not either, but I can see these... Tried to think why you couldn't. Sorry.

[SheltieLover]

49. Same here!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

74. It may have been deleted after you loaded the tweet but your cache hasn't cleared

So it is getting it from cache.

[Cha]

53. I'm on twitter & was going to post that

the first tweet is "Unavailable".. it's been deleted.

What was it about? TY!

[hlthe2b]

75. Malcom Nance commented on it (as did Laurence Tribe: "creepy." )

Malcolm thought it was interesting, but perhaps he thought better or heard from someone that the comparison method had problems or...

[Cha]

77. Yeah, sometimes we think better

of a post or a tweet.

TY!

[uncle ray]

39. sometimes i get that and just reload the tab and it works.

[BrightKnight]

11. It might explain why she knew where things were. nt

[demmiblue]

13. As far as the second tweet, from what I understand, ...

she gave her mom a tour on the day she was sworn in, not the day before the insurrection. Also, she is a contributor to Hill Reporter. Lol!

Anyway, I will get the popcorn ready just in case this turns out to be true!

[USALiberal]

15. Why would she be done! They will love it! Nt

[hlthe2b]

20. She could be prosecuted for her own involvement--as could many others.

There is already a petition of Congress to vote to expel her signed by 68 Colorado public officials and political leaders, including R's from her own District.

She is not on solid ground, no matter what... Murdoch's very true "hit piece" in this morning's NY Post is not only embarrassing in terms of exposing her own arrest history, lack of education, and qualifications, but it signals that the RW mainstream knives are out for her too.

[SheltieLover]

50. +1,000,000!!!

[doublethink]

17. Adding to this ...

1 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214938397

2 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214937775

3. I've been on the FBI webpage today and cannot find a single picture of 'bullhorn lady' in their 'wanted pics' I think they know who she is and is very 'high profile' at this point. So they could be holding on for such a revelation high profile arrest at some point. You know so much going on ... to keep calm before the Inauguration ... So there is that?

4. Yesterday her daughter Boebert claimed her mom WASN'T at the capitol but locked down somewhere else with her (Boebert's) staff somewhere else. That was in her official statement readily available online. But her mom said earlier that she (herself) was locked down INSIDE THE CAPITOL while the rioters were outside. She said she could hear them etc etc ... etc ... something is completely off about both their statements.

[SheltieLover]

52. Interesting!

Great catch!

[mopinko]

18. as a trained artist, i concur.

it's her. the pic that looks like a dif hat is that hat, inside out.

[Silver Gaia]

32. I had the same thought about the hat.

[mopinko]

36. i've done some knitting. it's a lined hat.

that hat has a big pompom on it. if you look at it inside out, you can tell it's in there.

[Cobalt Violet]

73. another trained artist here and I agree.

[Diraven]

95. I have an uncanny ability to recognize faces

Which my wife hates when I interrupt TV shows to point out obscure actors that were in some other TV show decades ago. Anyway, I concur, it definitely could be her, although with the grainy picture I can't say 100%

[BigmanPigman]

98. I've drawn portraits and figures since I was a kid

and they are the same woman in my opinion. I didn't use the overlays but when I looked at pictures of the daughter and mom last week I noticed that they both have the same pointy chin. It really stands out in other photos.

[demmiblue]

21. This response has me really questioning this:

Link to tweet

I am kind of surprised Malcolm Nance is passing this along.

[SheltieLover]

56. Could be an aunt?

[cwydro]

22. When the FBI says so, I'll believe it.

Really not believing random tweets and incessant posts here.

[hlthe2b]

26. First, nowhere did I say it WAS true, I said the comparison was compelling and IF true

So.... trash the thread.

And, I have NOT been posting "incessant posts" on this or any other issue.

[cwydro]

87. Where did I say YOU were posting incessant threads? Sensitive?

Do a search on this subject and you will see MANY threads. I have no idea who posts them all, I don’t keep notes.

I’m simply tired of all the false or misleading information I keep seeing here. And no, I didn’t say YOU have done this, k?

But people have been posting utter nonsense, and they don’t even care when it’s proven false.

It’s wrong to accuse people of wrongdoing if you don’t know if they’re even a suspect. Or at least, that’s my belief. Ymmv.

[Bradshaw3]

23. I've seen several comparisons and the nose and mouth look alike

But the woman in the pink hat looks much slimmer and younger than the old racist slimeball.

[Bradshaw3]

28. Lose 30 pounds in a few hours?

There are recent pics of her. It may be fun to speculate but it doesn't matter because I believe they will catch bullhorn traitor and I bet it's not her mom.

[Sogo]

29. I agree exactly with what you say about slimmer, but

people do lose weight....Do we know how long ago the picture was taken where she looks heavier?

It's the age thing that really rules it almost completely out for me.

[Sugarmaggie]

33. She's younger than Boeberts mother in this footage

[Bradshaw3]

40. This is a pic from three days before the riot

https://boebert.house.gov/media/press-releases/its-official-congresswoman-lauren-boebert-takes-oath-office

[Sogo]

43. Yep. She's definitely heavier than pink hat lady.

And has a double chin that I don't see on pink hat lady....

[SheltieLover]

59. Mom's sister?

If she has one!

[Bradshaw3]

101. Oh no!

We don't want them to hatch any more of their ilk.

[SheltieLover]

104. Def not!

Sickos!

[Hortensis]

30. Video clip from the ol' tree Lauren didn't fall far from.

Link to tweet

[smirkymonkey]

42. I can't believe these people.

They are repulsive. What trash!

[Hortensis]

44. There are one or two other "things she hates" clips. Figured one would do.

[smirkymonkey]

46. Yes, I think I have had my fill of her already.

But thanks anyway!

[SheltieLover]

60. Pos!

[LizBeth]

31. I think the second one looks younger.

[shrike3]

48. I agree. Younger woman, though similar in looks.

[SheltieLover]

62. Aunt?

[shrike3]

69. Or someone who just happens to look like her. Plenty of people have lookalikes.

[SheltieLover]

71. Maybe

But this 1 sure seems confident about the building.

[obamanut2012]

34. I think her frame is way too slight and she's too thin

Although her face looks like her mom.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

51. Fatter people wear thinner clothing in the cold, so it can be deceptive

We see them and our minds kind of automatically expect an extra layer or two of thickness underneath.

So heavier people can look much like thinner people in cold weather.

[obamanut2012]

65. her arms are very thin

[intrepidity]

35. It isn't her

I've run several photos of both through a facial recognition program, and it consistently says no match.

fwiw

I just ran the pair that was used in that video. This wss the result:

Verification result: The two faces belong to different people. Confidence is 0.43722.

[SilasSouleII]

57. Thanks

eom

[SheltieLover]

64. Wonder if it is mom's sister?

If she has one.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

78. I don't put much faith in that software for low-quality images...

... such as these.

Microsoft Azure, for example, gets reviewer complaints about false mismatches if the facial pics are blurred / lower quality. Edit: Or if the angles don't match well enough.

[George II]

37. That's the same woman. They can share a cell.

[bdamomma]

41. +10000

nt

[Beachnutt]

38. I think you nailed her.... Good Work.

[BobTheSubgenius]

45. It is pretty convincing to me, but...

...I am anything but an expert when it comes to digital imagery. If someone with real cred can state it with certainty, I am definitely ready to believe it.

[leanforward]

47. Thank you . . 2b an MalcomN

Made my day

[demmiblue]

55. Malcolm Nance deleted his tweet. n/t

[LeftInTX]

72. People are getting in trouble for some of this

Think of that Jewel guy in Atlanta

[Buckeye_Democrat]

58. That's what caught my attention immediately.

The mouth/cheeks/chin area looked identical to me a few days ago.

Then another pic of Q*bert's mother offered a better nose comparison, and there was the same "crease" on the end of it!

Yet another comparison of pics showed identical patterns for the forehead wrinkles! The wrinkles converged the same way above their left eyes!

If her mother isn't Bullhorn Lady, it's an EXTREMELY unusual set of coincidences imo!

[Tommymac]

63. Only The Sunglasses Know for sure...

Link to tweet

[Buckeye_Democrat]

70. I had noticed that earlier too!

Lots of sunglasses look similar, so I don't think it's as significant as the facial features, but that's yet another "match" as far as I'm concerned.

I'm also NOT totally convinced yet that Bullhorn Lady is much thinner, which is the main source of doubt for most people. It's too hard to tell with that coat on her imo.

[Tommymac]

83. I agree. It is too hard to judge weight in photos

The camera can add or take away 'pounds' depending on the angle.

I am leaning towards it being her mother, but still not enough evidence yet to be 100% certain.

Wishing though...is that mean?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

89. It would be mind-blowing news.

And I'm likewise leery about believing what I'd like to believe, so that's a constant nagging in my mind even after I saw various similarities in different pics.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

80. Here is a picture of Bentz in sunglasses. Look at the side, hard to see, but there is a white logo

It is hard to see because Bentz is front forward but if you look at the side of the sunglasses, you can see a white patch in the perspective it would have viewed at that angle. Since that side is in shade it is not catching a stray ray of light and appearing much brighter by chance. It would be a white logo making a spot like that.

I'm sure I saw a reasonably clear shot of Benz in those glasses from the side but despite searching and following #bullhornlady I haven't found it again.

Would love for somebody to find it.

[jmg257]

111. Oh shit yes - nice find!! Shawna deleted her twitter account a few days ago, after it came out she

Stlll has pinterst (southernbrn)

Curiouser and curiouser

Link to tweet

/photo/2

[SheltieLover]

66. Ty, Hllthe2b!

Maybe if not her mom, an aunt?

[3825-87867]

67. Uh, voice recognition software can clear it all up

It's amazing what can be done with that equipment today, even thru a bullhorn!
Maybe that's being checked?

[yellowcanine]

68. Your call but I think you should delete this thread. Way too speculative. Let the FBI do their

job. Without proof this is vicious slander and you are legally vulnerable imo.

[hlthe2b]

76. Slander requires one to make a claim I have not at ALL! but you are slandering ME

Nothing I have posted is slander nor a direct accusation. YOU need to delete YOUR post accusing ME of as you stated "VICIOUS SLANDER!"

[Buckeye_Democrat]

81. +1!

[SheltieLover]

91. +1

[Diraven]

100. Probably right

That thread from a few days ago where the guy on twitter supposedly identified the guy in the CFD hat ended up totally wrong.

[louis-t]

79. I'm convinced.

[MustLoveBeagles]

82. Time will tell if Pink Hat Lady is Boebert's mom

I'm not completely sure but I have to admit there's a strong resemblance.

[bucolic_frolic]

84. Bye, Bye Boebert sounds like it will be a good movie /nt

[USALiberal]

86. Really? Nt

[mrs_p]

88. I don't think so

Pink hat lady is younger and thinner than her mom (and me too for that matter).

[greenjar_01]

90. At a certain point, this wackadoodle and very wrong theory is going to make it harder to catch

the actual women with the bullhorn.

[BootinUp]

93. To folks saying the pink hat lady is slimmer

What image or video were you able to make that judgment from?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

96. Here's the best full-body pic that I've seen.

And I really can't tell while she's wearing that coat.



That woman also doesn't look very young to me!



Edit: Several people initially assumed that the middle-aged woman, who was shot in the neck, was a teenager based on the video of the shooting.

[BootinUp]

109. she does not look slim to me, neither does she look all that young.

id bet money it is boebert's mother. thanks a bunch.

[IsItJustMe]

94. I think the first Tweet was deleted. It say "Unavailable". The second tweet worked fine.

[world wide wally]

97. I will just say this for my 2 cents worth...

It's hard to imagine two people with the same nasty scowl on their faces.
Looks like a match to me.

[snort]

99. Sure looks like she's wider in the eyebrows.

[liberalmuse]

106. What's with the terrorists bringing their moms as their sidekicks (or vice versa)?

I'm talking about some of the guys arrested. I guess we will eventually find out one way or another, but my god, the facial features match almost dead on, even the line below the lower lip/above the chin matches. To be fair, morphing software can fit facial features where you want them to be.

[flamingdem]

107. There's audio of Pink Hat Woman elsewhere - the FBI will have audio to work with

Personally am not sure it's her. Pink Hat Woman with Ram looks a bit younger but I could be mistaken.

[orleans]

108. video on youtube--pompom on hat & battering ram

[Obvious85]

110. The Eyebrows and Nose match perfectly too

IT IS her. Conspiring with her daughter = P R I S O N