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LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:20 AM Jan 2021

I ran across a headline that said that something is screwy because the deaths are about

Last edited Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)

normal. Yes they are about normal. I look at the Arkansas dept of health flu stats and only 1 death from the flu for the entire season. The number of cases since the flu season started is BELOW the base line. The flu is here but so many people are wearing masks that it can not grab hold.

Here is the data : https://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/images/uploads/pdf/Weekly_Influenza_Report_Week_Ending_Saturday_January_16,_2021.pdf


EDIT: per popular demand, it seems that deaths are not normal for this year so far. I have tp appoligize for posting incorrect information. Must have been a Republican site.

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I ran across a headline that said that something is screwy because the deaths are about (Original Post) LiberalArkie Jan 2021 OP
My husband's oncologist.. luvs2sing Jan 2021 #1
Influenza cases are lower than normal. LisaL Jan 2021 #12
I have interacted with a very limited set of people for a year now lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #2
No communicable diseases here, either. Hugin Jan 2021 #3
... BComplex Jan 2021 #4
There was also the ulcer. Not, my fault. Hugin Jan 2021 #13
The measures that most take to prevent COVID are even more effective against other causes of death. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #5
The total death count is not nearly neutral. Mariana Jan 2021 #8
So much for my fantasy. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #10
You're welcome. nt. Mariana Jan 2021 #15
We still got our flu shots last Fall PJMcK Jan 2021 #6
Please follow this link to the CDC website Mariana Jan 2021 #7
And this map - Weekly US Map: Influenza Summary Update Roland99 Jan 2021 #9
I was only pointing out that in Arkansas the Dept of Health stats show that our LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #16
No, you posted a false statement. Mariana Jan 2021 #19
The headline you ran across was false. LisaL Jan 2021 #11
+1 Hugin Jan 2021 #14
The fact I was trying to make is that Arkansas has had only 1 flu death this flu season LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #17
Oh, I know that, LA. Hugin Jan 2021 #18

luvs2sing

(2,234 posts)
1. My husband's oncologist..
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jan 2021

told him there have been virtually no cases of flu here in Ohio due to people following Covid precautions.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
12. Influenza cases are lower than normal.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jan 2021

However deaths in 2020 are much higher than normal.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
2. I have interacted with a very limited set of people for a year now
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:23 AM
Jan 2021

wearing masks, alcohol wipes... washing hands

so far, no colds, no flu.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
3. No communicable diseases here, either.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

A couple of odd things like kidney stones and a near case of appendicitis, though. Because, I'm an idiot.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
13. There was also the ulcer. Not, my fault.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

My attorney has informed me suing the calendar for personal injury would be a waste of money.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. The measures that most take to prevent COVID are even more effective against other causes of death.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jan 2021

For example, masks and handwashing are very effective against flu.
Reduced travel reduces highway fatalities and improves air quality (and lung health).

So we might actually see the total death count nearly neutral, but the causes shift.

On the downside, economic catastrophe causes a lot of deaths too.

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
8. The total death count is not nearly neutral.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

Please follow this link to the CDC website, and scroll down to the graph that says "Weekly number of deaths (from all causes)".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
6. We still got our flu shots last Fall
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jan 2021

Even though we've been isolating and social distancing and wearing masks and washing our hands and everything else, we still felt it was worth it to get our flu vaccines.

Belts and suspenders mean your pants will definitely not fall down!

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
7. Please follow this link to the CDC website
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

and scroll down to the graph that says, "Weekly number of deaths (from all causes)"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

You'll see that the number of deaths has been abnormally high every single week since the last week of March 2020.

I don't know who said "the deaths are about normal", but whoever it was, it's a lie.

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
16. I was only pointing out that in Arkansas the Dept of Health stats show that our
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

flu stats for this flu season is way below the baseline.

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
19. No, you posted a false statement.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jan 2021
I ran across a headline that said that something is screwy because the deaths are about [View all]
normal. Yes they are about normal.

This is false.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
11. The headline you ran across was false.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jan 2021

There are misleading claims circulating that death are normal. They are not normal. 2020 deaths are much higher than normal.

"In mid-October, the CDC released analysis of death figures between Jan. 26 and Oct. 3, and revealed there had been an estimated 299,028 excess deaths in 2020 by this time ( here , datawrapper.dwcdn.net/LWq2f/6/ ). It said of this figure that 198,081 deaths (66%) were believed to be due to COVID-19 – although the department also noted that underestimations could have been made on the total impact of the pandemic. A similar study from the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) looking at data between March and July also found US deaths had increased 20% during this period. COVID-19 was attributed to 67% of this excess (here)."
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-chart-us-death-figures-2020/fact-check-chart-does-not-present-accurate-us-deaths-figure-for-2020-idUSKBN2872MV

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
17. The fact I was trying to make is that Arkansas has had only 1 flu death this flu season
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

compared to all the other years. The point I was trying to make is masks and prevention does in fact work. Probably not that much for car accidents, or heart attacks of being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher. But for things like the flu they do work.

It makes a person wonder if it might work next flu season?

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
18. Oh, I know that, LA.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jan 2021

You are correct in what YOU are saying. The articles were a little misleading in how they were written.

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