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nolabear

(43,850 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:39 PM Jan 2021

Jen Psaki is incredible. Not condescending, defensive, dishonest, dismissive...

She says no when she means no, answers what she can and admits when she can't, is straightforward with intelligent answers, treats even the baiting reporters with respect...I cannot believe how amazing this seems. We have been in hell.

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Jen Psaki is incredible. Not condescending, defensive, dishonest, dismissive... (Original Post) nolabear Jan 2021 OP
Yeah, where did she come from? nt intrepidity Jan 2021 #1
I believe she was the deputy communications director MontanaMama Jan 2021 #23
She was Press Secretary for either the Defense Dept. or State Dept. under President Obama. Blue_true Jan 2021 #30
Its like going from Saturday morning cartoons to masters level classes. 5X Jan 2021 #2
Agree. moondust Jan 2021 #3
It's hard to guage. These days competence seems like brilliance. skip fox Jan 2021 #4
Noncombative zipplewrath Jan 2021 #5
She is pretty experienced, she was Press Secretary for one of the major Blue_true Jan 2021 #31
There Are Have Been PressSecs Like That Before ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #6
When I think of K-lie GopherGal Jan 2021 #41
They're belligerent because they're mendacious onetexan Jan 2021 #45
True. I think K-lie stood out because of the smugness she combined with the belligerence GopherGal Jan 2021 #46
"I'd like to circle back with you on that..." Wednesdays Jan 2021 #7
And when she circles back at least yesterday she makes a little spinning motion with her fingers Botany Jan 2021 #25
Sorry I missed it but gotta' ask....... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #8
and she's not wearing a fake cross. IcyPeas Jan 2021 #9
I like her a lot..some are complaining about her using the term "circle back." Lay off!! Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #10
OFFS. SOME just need to bitch. nolabear Jan 2021 #13
I am amazed, MuseRider Jan 2021 #11
Some of those questions... tenderfoot Jan 2021 #12
They're testing her. And she's passing. nolabear Jan 2021 #14
She's doing great mvd Jan 2021 #15
I don't remember the rule, Blue_true Jan 2021 #33
I finally found this online mvd Jan 2021 #37
Oops, I guess I get sent back to grade school or whatever. Blue_true Jan 2021 #39
Surname pronunciation seems to have little to do with general rules of English pronunciation. GopherGal Jan 2021 #47
Her straightforwardness and sanity makes me all too aware of how abused and gaslit we have smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #16
We're going to need to remind ourselves how insane it was. nolabear Jan 2021 #18
I think these side-by-side comparisons are good. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #21
She is wonderful! Cetacea Jan 2021 #17
The new public speakers are so refreshing! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #19
I'm very impressed Tennessee Hillbilly Jan 2021 #20
We watched her yesterday and were stunned that we wanted to see it all. TNNurse Jan 2021 #22
I was so impressed they had a presser MontanaMama Jan 2021 #24
A small quibble - I wish reporters names and affiliations were identified BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #26
Is OAN gone? not fooled Jan 2021 #27
I believe that under President Obama they were allowed to stay, Blue_true Jan 2021 #34
Fox Noise definitely has a presence Wednesdays Jan 2021 #36
Bad, terrible, awful Com. Dir's (or whatever they call them now) have been a GOP mainstay for ages. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #28
I agree, nolabear. Jen Psaki is wonderful to behold... Hekate Jan 2021 #29
I believe she said she worked with State Danmel Jan 2021 #32
She was eventually the Press Secretary there. I remember her, because she was Blue_true Jan 2021 #35
Who was that reporter that whined about Biden and family not wearing a mask? Seasider Jan 2021 #38
She handled that one guy asking what Biden has done R B Garr Jan 2021 #40
During the Obama years & prior admins, i hardly ever listened to these Press briefings. Now with onetexan Jan 2021 #42
Oddly, the shitshow these past four years might have helped nolabear Jan 2021 #43
Agree. The constant lying & facts distortion was revolting onetexan Jan 2021 #44

MontanaMama

(24,718 posts)
23. I believe she was the deputy communications director
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:03 PM
Jan 2021

for Obama...she also worked for John Kerry and Tom Vilsack. She’s quite polished and entertaining to watch.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. She was Press Secretary for either the Defense Dept. or State Dept. under President Obama.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jan 2021

I remember her doing several Press Conference in that role. She joined the Press operation for the Biden campaign at some point, not the earliest points. I believe that O’Malley-Dillon may have brought her in to add experienced Press expertise.

skip fox

(19,502 posts)
4. It's hard to guage. These days competence seems like brilliance.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

Despite that, however, she seems highly intelligent, disciplined, and human.

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
5. Noncombative
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jan 2021

It's nice that it's not mortal combat the whole time. She starts cooperative and moves towards terse when needed, then returns to cooperative. Of course she gets a pass for a while because it's literally been hours since he took office. But in the long run it should be a good pattern, "nice, terse, combative" instead of "punch first, ask later".

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. She is pretty experienced, she was Press Secretary for one of the major
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jan 2021

Departments for a while in the Obama Administration.

ProfessorGAC

(76,625 posts)
6. There Are Have Been PressSecs Like That Before
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jan 2021

But, the last 4 years were so bad, it's easy to forget what a press secretary who isn't a petulant, sanctimonious, condescending liar looks like.

GopherGal

(2,901 posts)
41. When I think of K-lie
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

(and I try not to)
I think belligerent and smugly mendacious.
Or maybe mendacious and smugly belligerent...


Have to appreciate the improvement!

GopherGal

(2,901 posts)
46. True. I think K-lie stood out because of the smugness she combined with the belligerence
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jan 2021

I think they knew they were *so* transparent in their lying that they unavoidably earned the contempt of the press, so they defensively exhibited their own contempt first.

Toxic excrement through and through, just like their boss.

Wednesdays

(22,539 posts)
7. "I'd like to circle back with you on that..."
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jan 2021

She likes to use that "circle back" phrase a lot. So much so, I noticed one of the reporters said it!

Botany

(77,260 posts)
25. And when she circles back at least yesterday she makes a little spinning motion with her fingers
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:07 PM
Jan 2021

I was just talking to my neighbor this PM as we let our dogs play and he said after watching her last
night it was like a weight was lifted from his chest.

MyOwnPeace

(17,544 posts)
8. Sorry I missed it but gotta' ask.......
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:46 PM
Jan 2021

is she wearing a cross or related to an evangelical nut job? If not - how can you trust her?

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
13. OFFS. SOME just need to bitch.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jan 2021

I'll admit it's going to be hard to give up the thrill of eternal combat, but...

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
11. I am amazed,
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jan 2021

I had really forgotten what it felt like to have some serious and thoughtful answers to questions. She is good, very good and I am enjoying listening to her. It is something to look forward to now. She seems like a real person, not a Gish galloping nothing like we have been served off and on recently.

Life feels so much better. I am sure it will even out as we get used to what we were used to before.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
12. Some of those questions...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:55 PM
Jan 2021

The one going about "but he promised an olive branch with Republicans..."

The other about "but he wasn't wearing a mask on federal property...."

I thought she handled it well.

mvd

(65,909 posts)
15. She's doing great
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jan 2021

Definitely ready to hit the ground running.

Is the “P” in her last name silent? I want to make sure I pronounce her name right.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. I don't remember the rule,
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:09 PM
Jan 2021

but I believe that a letter is silent only if a vowel follows a vowel. For example Phoenix is pronounced “Phenix”. If I remember correctly, the rules for a consonant following a consonant or a consonant-vowel pairing are a lot more complex, depending upon what the combination is. Maybe some of the English majors here can weigh in.

I looked it up, as I expected, it is more complex and also depend upon where (region of the world) a person is.

I believe her last name is pronounced “zacki”. The PS being together followed by a vowel need to be pronounced as another letter, in this case the “PS” becomes “Z”.

If any English majors weigh in, go easy on me, I have been out of corporate America for a while in the South, so most names here are easier to pronounce due to most being English, Spanish or simple German.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. Oops, I guess I get sent back to grade school or whatever.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:39 PM
Jan 2021

My reading oh the rules caused me to say her last name as “Zacki”. I did remember that two consonants together changed the sound, but looks like more was involved than I concluded upon looking over rules.

GopherGal

(2,901 posts)
47. Surname pronunciation seems to have little to do with general rules of English pronunciation.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

Or any other language pronunciation, once they get mis-transcribed at Ellis Island and "Americanized" (i.e. dumbed-down to accommodate Americans' (mis)pronunciation)

Just ask Brett Favre. Or one of the Wangs I have known that pronounces it as in "Tango" or the ones that pronounce it as in "Wong"

So at some point all you can do is go with the expressed preference of the person you're addressing.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. Her straightforwardness and sanity makes me all too aware of how abused and gaslit we have
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jan 2021

been since Trump took office. I saw a side-by-side of her and Sean Spice on Twitter and what a contrast!

And he was one of, if not THE, most normal Trump press secretaries! No wonder I felt like I was literally losing my fucking mind over the past four years. It was absolute madness.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
18. We're going to need to remind ourselves how insane it was.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jan 2021

It’s so aberrant it doesn’t stick well in the mind. We absolutely need things like those comparisons. Spicer/Psaki, Fauci before and after, all the inhuman treatment of everyone.

I don’t plan to dwell once my jaw is up off the floor but we certainly cannot forget.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. I think these side-by-side comparisons are good.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jan 2021

Just to remind us of how bad it was then and what normalcy should look like. The contrast is amazing. I was watching that one video thinking to myself, "How and why did we ever put up with that shit?"

It's like having been in an abusive relationship or workplace after you have freed yourself from it. You cannot believe you ever put up with the shit that you put up with. You are convinced that you were temporarily insane, but it was that person, or those people who were making you insane.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
19. The new public speakers are so refreshing!
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jan 2021

The educated ADULTS are in charge again!

If that's "elitist", I'll gladly take that over lying and ignorance!

20. I'm very impressed
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

Not only is she very intelligent and knowledgeable, she is a excellent speaker with great composure.

MontanaMama

(24,718 posts)
24. I was so impressed they had a presser
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:05 PM
Jan 2021

on the day of the inauguration! Just like business as usual. So refreshing. I found myself setting an alarm on my phone so I could tune in while I was at work today.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. A small quibble - I wish reporters names and affiliations were identified
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:11 PM
Jan 2021

Regardless, Ms Psaki is a real pro, I have nothing but respect for her!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. I believe that under President Obama they were allowed to stay,
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jan 2021

but their BS was corrected by facts on the spot.

Wednesdays

(22,539 posts)
36. Fox Noise definitely has a presence
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jan 2021

One reporter keeps asking asinine questions about Amazon.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,212 posts)
28. Bad, terrible, awful Com. Dir's (or whatever they call them now) have been a GOP mainstay for ages.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jan 2021

Even Nixon had a decent one, although I didn't think so at the time. But Junior and Il Douche devolved the brand into whatever it is that fetid pond scum looks down on.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
29. I agree, nolabear. Jen Psaki is wonderful to behold...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:56 PM
Jan 2021

Thanks for this OP. DU has had two days in a row of astonishingly petty complaints about Ms Psaki’s presentation skills. Seriously,

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. She was eventually the Press Secretary there. I remember her, because she was
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:15 PM
Jan 2021

very competent, and I hate to admit it, I found her to be attractive.

Seasider

(208 posts)
38. Who was that reporter that whined about Biden and family not wearing a mask?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jan 2021

It was a useless question if he wasn’t going to provide specifics. I thought Psaki handled it as well as she could have.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
42. During the Obama years & prior admins, i hardly ever listened to these Press briefings. Now with
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jan 2021

Ms. Psaki i really look forward to her very sharp, adroit and well-delivered updates. Really impressed by her quick wit and knowledge of the facts and delivering Biden's plans. She is top notch!!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
43. Oddly, the shitshow these past four years might have helped
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jan 2021

engender actual interest in how things work and what it’s like when they work well.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
44. Agree. The constant lying & facts distortion was revolting
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jan 2021

I could not stand to see those inept people take to the podium only to bully, belittle &straight up lie to the press. Truth matters, &ms Psaki is doing a great job to counter the misinformation.

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