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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 07:44 AM Jan 2021

THIS IS WHY CHANGE IS NECESSARY.



When folks don’t understand why it’s a big deal that Harris is the Vice President(no matter your political affiliation), it’s helpful to use a simple visual aid.

See the red box? Until then, she would have been enslaved.

See the blue box? Until then, she couldn’t vote.

The yellow box? Until then, she had to attend a segregated school.

And the green one? Until then she couldn’t have her own bank account.

THIS IS WHY CHANGE IS NECESSARY.

[link:https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/photos/a.517901514969574/4740216609404689/?type=3&theater|]

Brava!!!
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THIS IS WHY CHANGE IS NECESSARY. (Original Post) Soph0571 Jan 2021 OP
Great post malaise Jan 2021 #1
She couldn't get into law school before 1970 or so. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #2
Women and black women went to law school before 1970 TimeToGo Jan 2021 #34
For regular women with no connections or wealth it was Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #35
Yes, but it was the categorical statement I was reacting to TimeToGo Jan 2021 #37
Sadie Alexander (UPenn 1927) BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #36
Moving onward and upward! gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #3
Finally! pazzyanne Jan 2021 #9
this llashram Jan 2021 #15
Powerful visual! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4
There is the saying that "Babies and politicians should be changed often, and for the same reason". abqtommy Jan 2021 #5
Except term limits OldBaldy1701E Jan 2021 #12
"That's the way it is"--- lastlib Jan 2021 #6
It has also been the excuse OldBaldy1701E Jan 2021 #10
What a great thread!!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #7
The GREEN box surprised me and I've been around since FDR. HUAJIAO Jan 2021 #8
Green box? Really? bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #11
There were numerous states where women were restricted from financial independence. Augiedog Jan 2021 #14
Hit it on the head. Butterflylady Jan 2021 #13
this llashram Jan 2021 #16
Thank you for this excellent OP. niyad Jan 2021 #17
Where did they find a picture of Cheney smiling? milestogo Jan 2021 #18
it's not a smile--it's his snarl. lastlib Jan 2021 #21
Shared. ananda Jan 2021 #19
If she had lived in the south as a black woman... debsy Jan 2021 #20
We've come a long way baby. BarbD Jan 2021 #22
I only count billh58 Jan 2021 #25
Thanks you did the math n/t. airplaneman Jan 2021 #28
Good Grief! debsy Jan 2021 #29
Easy mistake billh58 Jan 2021 #31
That's a great graphic! treestar Jan 2021 #23
That is one powerful picture. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #24
She was a great choice sandensea Jan 2021 #26
You know, Soph, someone left Abraham Lincoln out of that collage. He should PatrickforO Jan 2021 #27
These are all VP's. Lincoln had two VP's mnhtnbb Jan 2021 #30
Oh. I stand corrected. The name Hannibal reminds me of a certain PatrickforO Jan 2021 #39
This post is awesome sauce. I love it Olafjoy Jan 2021 #32
I AM SO GLAD she was the FIRST, yuiyoshida Jan 2021 #33
Oh, goodness, yes to THAT! electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #38
I am so happy to have her as VP. roamer65 Jan 2021 #40
Hi! CanonRay Jan 2021 #41
K&R MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #42
Absolutely! Niagara Jan 2021 #43

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
34. Women and black women went to law school before 1970
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jan 2021

Now, clearly harder to get into - and that’s very real, but

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
35. For regular women with no connections or wealth it was
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jan 2021

almost impossible. At least in midwest, middle class society.
It started changing around 1970.

Prior to that women were wives, secretaries, teachers, nurses.

I went to grad school around 1980 and it was a mixed male/female class.
Prior to that it had always been all male.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
37. Yes, but it was the categorical statement I was reacting to
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:22 PM
Jan 2021

And some schools were not very open. I don’t know yours, but there were definitely schools that were mixed in grad school before 1980.

But, we aren’t really disagreeing big picture. It was tough and unfair for most of our history.

BumRushDaShow

(128,442 posts)
36. Sadie Alexander (UPenn 1927)
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jan 2021
Sadie T. M. Alexander (1898-1989)
Posted on October 29, 2010 / Contributed by: Carla Garner



Sadie Tanner Mossell Alexander, Ph.D. graduation, University of Pennsylvania, 1921

Born two decades before American women won the right to vote, Sadie Tanner Mossell Alexander overcame obstacles as a woman and also as an African American in the elite profession of law. In 1927 she became the first black woman to gain admission to the Pennsylvania bar, beginning a long career advocating for civil and human rights.

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/alexander-sadie-tanner-mossell-1898-1989/


That was back when Penn was allowing "negro" students but had a quota - basically no more than 2 (my grandfather was "quota'd" out of Penn Medical School but was accepted to Penn Dental school where he ultimately went).

One of my great-uncles (back in the late '20s) worked with Alexander in the courts and one of my aunts used to work with her for the city in Orphan's Court.

gademocrat7

(10,644 posts)
3. Moving onward and upward!
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 07:54 AM
Jan 2021

Vice President Kamala Harris leading the way for women to achieve the same aspirations as men.

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
9. Finally!
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:34 AM
Jan 2021

This 77 year old woman has been trying to accomplish this since 1966! Really thought we would have a woman president in 2016, and was sadly disappointed. Actually, knowing who and what DJT was, I was angry. So looking forward to Joe and Kamala! They certainly hit the ground running, much to my joy. (202 outlook: I am sleeping better, am happier and my mood has stabilized.)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. There is the saying that "Babies and politicians should be changed often, and for the same reason".
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:11 AM
Jan 2021

We know that the left-wing philosophy is to embrace change while the right-wing philosophy is to resist change
as long as they're benefiting from the status quo. That's the gist of politics.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
12. Except term limits
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:42 AM
Jan 2021

There doesn't seem to be a lot of need for change in that department, at least according to the complete lack of discussion on this topic. Which is interesting to me, as I feel this is one of the first things that needs to change.

lastlib

(23,152 posts)
6. "That's the way it is"---
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:53 AM
Jan 2021

Unless you're Walter Cronkite, that's the dumbest phrase in the English language.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
10. It has also been the excuse
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jan 2021

most used when someone does not want something to change. This is usually because the person saying it is on the positive side of whatever it is that needs to be changed.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
7. What a great thread!!!!
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jan 2021

Not just from the "OP" (thanks, Soph!!) - but the comments! Put 'em all together and we have more well-thought-out-ideas and lessons than we've had in the past 4 years from BunkerBoy and his mis-administration!

GREAT STUFF!!!!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
11. Green box? Really?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jan 2021

I just don't know, because I remember my mom talking about saving her money in a bank in the 1940s. No mention ever of her needing a cosigner. And I'm sure mom and dad had separate bank accounts by the 60s, they had separate passbooks, which I guess is a term unknown now. It was the little ledger book that entered your debits, credits, and balance - a record of what you held in a bank.

lastlib

(23,152 posts)
21. it's not a smile--it's his snarl.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jan 2021

There is no joy in the hole where they installed a borrowed heart.

debsy

(530 posts)
20. If she had lived in the south as a black woman...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jan 2021

...she would likely not have been able to vote in practice until the the 24th Amendment (abolishing pol taxes) was ratified in the Constitution (January 23, 1964 when there was no VP) and the Voting Rights Act was codified and enacted (August 6, 1965). Hubert Humphrey was VP for the VRA (just to the left of Agnew in the green box).

The Supreme Court decision in Brown vs.Board of Education was under the "Warren Court" which, according to Wikipedia, "has been recognized by many as a "Constitutional Revolution" in the liberal direction, with Warren writing the majority opinions in landmark cases such as Brown v. Board of Education (1954), Reynolds v. Sims (1964), Miranda v. Arizona (1966) and Loving v. Virginia (1967)." ([link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Warren|]).

Andrew Johnson was a "National Unionist" and didn't care at all about protecting or have an interest in freeing slaves. The only reason he was on the ticket was because Abraham Lincoln wanted to project a message of National Unity after the Civil War and Johnson, being the only senator who hadn't resigned his seat after his state (in his case, Tennessee) seceded from the United States to join the Confederate States, seemed to be the logical choice at the time.

The 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (ratified on August 18, 1920) granting women the right to vote would have made Thomas Marshall the VP at the time, not Calvin Coolidge.

NOTE: Three of the boxes emphasized show Republicans from recent history and the other is Andrew Johnson (no further commentary required for him). In fact, the legislation and constitutional amendments that benefitted Americans around these times were implemented under DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS. To highlight Republicans as being in office when these transformative changes occurred is disingenuous, at best. I wonder where this image originated. It is subtle things like this that spread mis/disinformation. The message of change is a good one but the hidden message that somehow Andrew Johnson, Calvin Coolidge, Richard Nixon, and Spiro Agnew are somehow associated with Civil Rights is wrong, on so many levels.

Also, there are 55 pictures (including Madam VP, herself) but aren't there only 49 VPs in our history ([link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vice_presidents_of_the_United_States|]). Are there duplicates or something?

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
26. She was a great choice
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jan 2021

Not least because it's been very hard for Faux and Lumpball to turn her into a boogeywoman, the way they turned Hillary into one (among their idiots, anyway).



PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
27. You know, Soph, someone left Abraham Lincoln out of that collage. He should
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:30 PM
Jan 2021

have been immediately before the red box, which shows Andrew Johnson.

Otherwise, very good post, and it IS a big deal for all women and people of color to have Harris as VP.

mnhtnbb

(31,373 posts)
30. These are all VP's. Lincoln had two VP's
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jan 2021

and it's Hannibal Hamlin-- his first VP--whose portrait should be precede Andrew Johnson.

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