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Bmoboy

(642 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:41 PM Jan 2021

Did Schumer blink already?

The Republicans wanted to delay the Impeachment trial instead of starting it the day after Nancy Pelosi delivers the Article. They got the delay.

What exactly did the Democrats get?

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Did Schumer blink already? (Original Post) Bmoboy Jan 2021 OP
Time to organize. elleng Jan 2021 #1
What are we organizing? BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #10
Organize for what? MineralMan Jan 2021 #14
'Frankly, right now, confirming Biden's cabinet is a far more important thing.' elleng Jan 2021 #16
Your three-word reply was ambiguous. MineralMan Jan 2021 #18
'Organize for what?' elleng Jan 2021 #20
I replied in kind, and with the same number of words. MineralMan Jan 2021 #21
And to confirm Cabinet officials SCantiGOP Jan 2021 #19
Thanks. elleng Jan 2021 #22
Frankly, right now, confirming Biden's cabinet is a far more important thing MineralMan Jan 2021 #2
Democrats didn't want interference either servermsh Jan 2021 #3
More time, more evidence. Biden gets to seat his cabinet. Dream Girl Jan 2021 #4
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jan 2021 #33
Schumer mostly likely wanted to get Biden's nominees through Jamesyu Jan 2021 #5
Time to install Biden's Cabinet Big Blue Marble Jan 2021 #6
all we are after is that majority vote to keep him from running... samnsara Jan 2021 #7
Oh, here we go again. No, Schumer didn't blink. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #8
Thanks, Ocelot. elleng Jan 2021 #17
Patience, Grasshopper Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #9
No. roamer65 Jan 2021 #11
I would have been happy with waiting until after Biden's first 100 days OnDoutside Jan 2021 #12
This gives us time. Hell, that report that came out last nite is a blockbuster Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #13
They should wait until the FBI is done with their after action report. joshcryer Jan 2021 #15
That was my thought ... Blue_playwright Jan 2021 #26
Also the more isolated Trump is... joshcryer Jan 2021 #29
He will never testify under oath. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #38
He talks in code. mobeau69 Jan 2021 #28
Democrats should take their time!!! Beakybird Jan 2021 #23
No. If anything, it's more like a rope-a-dope move KPN Jan 2021 #24
A couple of weeks isn't much.... TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #25
yes but Bmoboy Jan 2021 #27
The only thing I fear is that the delay louis-t Jan 2021 #30
Throw Mitch a piece of lettuce while we sharpen the knives Blue Owl Jan 2021 #31
Again with this? mcar Jan 2021 #32
+1 nsd Jan 2021 #34
No he didn't blink. Even more evidence has and will be coming out msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #35
maybe I'm not making my point clearly enough Bmoboy Jan 2021 #36
Oh I see your point.. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #37

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
18. Your three-word reply was ambiguous.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

My suggestion: Use more words to clarify what you are saying. Two people asked you for clarification. That should be a sign.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
21. I replied in kind, and with the same number of words.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jan 2021

You responded by quoting the title of my reply to the OP, in which I explained clearly why I thought Schumer acted as he did.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
2. Frankly, right now, confirming Biden's cabinet is a far more important thing
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

than trying Trump. There is a rush of need to do the first. Trump can wait.

So, no, Schumer didn't blink. He thought, instead. That's what we need: thought.

servermsh

(1,406 posts)
3. Democrats didn't want interference either
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

Now Democrats get to get more Cabinet members voted on and initial legislation voted on.

There is no hurry for the impeachment. Trump is gone and more terrible evidence against him comes out every day.

 

Jamesyu

(259 posts)
5. Schumer mostly likely wanted to get Biden's nominees through
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

In a quickly manor so I don’t see no caving here.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
6. Time to install Biden's Cabinet
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

and time to more clearly develop the evidence.

What did they give up? Nothing of consequence.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,516 posts)
8. Oh, here we go again. No, Schumer didn't blink.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jan 2021

In fact, delaying the trial for a couple of weeks is probably a good thing, since more dirt seems to be appearing every day (like last night's revelation about how Trump was considering firing the acting AG to install a stooge who would try to strong-arm GA election officials). I know it's fashionable these days to bust on Democrats, since we don't seem to understand the concept of a circular firing squad, but this isn't Schumer's first rodeo, and a delay isn't a defeat. If anything it's an opportunity.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
11. No.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:49 PM
Jan 2021

At this point, a few weeks isn’t going to matter.

Let’s get President Biden’s nominees confirmed and then we can look at it.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
12. I would have been happy with waiting until after Biden's first 100 days
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jan 2021

in office.

Waiting any length of time doesn't suit McConnell, and I suspect he was under pressure to ask for the delay.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,956 posts)
13. This gives us time. Hell, that report that came out last nite is a blockbuster
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jan 2021

I think that there may be even more before the trial begins.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
15. They should wait until the FBI is done with their after action report.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

There's dozens and dozens of these guys who are saying Trump is the reason they went there. That is evidence in his trial. I know that often we need the moment to get things done but these are Republicans we are talking about. The case has to be complete and utter. Democratic Senators talking about each and every insurrectionist and how they felt that Trump was telling them to do it.

Remember Trump speaks in double speak, he implies, but doesn't say directly, he told them to "walk down there" but he didn't give directions, they "walked down there" and they started an insurrection. By having their testimony as witnesses against Trump we might, *might* be able to get him convicted.

Otherwise the Republicans will let him walk.

Blue_playwright

(1,620 posts)
26. That was my thought ...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jan 2021

... let the evidence pile up.

That and if you give Trump some time to prepare, you can’t be accused of ramming it through.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
29. Also the more isolated Trump is...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:31 PM
Jan 2021

...the more likely he will grandstand in his trial. He's no longer sitting President, he's relegated to obscurity, he may want want last stand where he actually is called to witness. And we know how that would pan out. He would be utterly decimated and destroyed. There's a reason they didn't let him testify in the first hearing.

Beakybird

(3,397 posts)
23. Democrats should take their time!!!
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jan 2021

State charges and defamation cases should have time to move forward!!!

KPN

(17,376 posts)
24. No. If anything, it's more like a rope-a-dope move
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:08 PM
Jan 2021

on Biden’s part. McConnell walked right into it. The case is just getting stronger every day. McConnell will be begging to “get this thing going now” any day now.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
25. A couple of weeks isn't much....
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jan 2021

The Republicans were/are going to try to make a stink that Trump was given insufficient time to prepare his defense. I am okay with the short delay in this situation, especially as we learn more and more. I look forward to witnesses being called.

Bmoboy

(642 posts)
27. yes but
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jan 2021

As long as the operating resolution has not been agreed to, all the committees that review the nominations of cabinet officials are still majority Republican.

They can hold up the nominations anyway.

Yes the evidence against Trump will continue to mount up. He isn't going anywhere, but people are dying every day.

If the Republicans continue to obstruct by delaying the shift to Democratic control of the Senate agenda, the Democrats cannot demonstrate their ability to govern and get relief to the people who need it - all of us.

I want to trust in Schumer's talents. And it is imperative that we address the ongoing national emergency NOW.

So, again, what did the Democrats get?

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
30. The only thing I fear is that the delay
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jan 2021

will erase some of the outrage from certain members of the right and they will be more likely to vote against conviction.

mcar

(46,055 posts)
32. Again with this?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jan 2021

Seems like some here are looking for any lame reason to slam the new Majority Leader without discerning the facts.

One wonders why.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
35. No he didn't blink. Even more evidence has and will be coming out
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jan 2021

Biden needs his Cabinet confirmed, and Mitch needs to get his ass put into place on the Jim Crow rule aka the filibuster.

In the meantime, Even more evidence has and will be coming out. Just the bombshell reporting of direct hand wrt DOJ to overthow the election is a huge win for the Dems. Might have to actually draw up another article and frame as directly involved in conspiracy to organize a coup. or some such wording to mean the same.

It's only two weeks, we've got some important housekeeping in the Senate to get done that's been delayed because Mitch is delusional to think he has a right to certain degree of power that would render our side completely toothless.



Bmoboy

(642 posts)
36. maybe I'm not making my point clearly enough
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:11 AM
Jan 2021

Yes, collect evidence for the impeachment rial.

But - the Republicans are still controlling the flow of Senate activity - confirmations, Covid relief bill, consideration of ANY legislation.

Until the power sharing rules are in place, that will continue.

What leverage does Schumer have to make Mitch give in?

When has Mitch ever given in?

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
37. Oh I see your point..
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:24 AM
Jan 2021

Oh I see your point.. well I think we'll see how by monday or tuesday how that shakes out. We'll see.

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