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Donald Trump Jr.s latest boast about his dad did not go well.
Former President Donald Trumps eldest son tweeted on Friday that his father, who was banned from the social media platform for inciting the U.S. Capitol riot, was the first president in modern history not to start a new war.
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Critics pounced on the post, bluntly reminding Trump Jr. of his fathers yearslong violent and divisive rhetoric, encouragement of the U.S. Capitol riot and his administrations catastrophic handling of the coronavirus pandemic that has now killed more than 400,000 people nationwide.
Who needs a new war when, as of this week, more Americans died from the coronavirus on your fathers watch, in less than 11 months, than died in *World War 2* over four years, asked NBC journalist Mehdi Hasan.
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https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-jr-boast-dad-backfires-075008851.html
The Stupid is strong with this one.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)His Father started a war, against the American people on 1/6. In true Trump fashion, he lost it in six hours.
kristofarian
(75 posts)trumpfed himself!
got a LOT to look forward to
there junior trumpfy &
what will you
Destroy?
paleotn
(22,218 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)That said, it must be remembered that Trump fomented an internal, violent, insurrection, instead, and that wipes out any credit he might deserve for not involving us in any new foreign entanglements.
Trump is the only President in our history to incite rebellion and encourage the overthrow of our government. For that reason alone, he shall be (he must be) forever condemned.
-Laelth
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)while diddling with Erdogan. He doesn't get any credit. He is still going to trial. Nice attempt to mitigate. Too little substance, however.
PatrickforO
(15,426 posts)was despicable, because the Turks basically drove out the Kurds from their homes, and are busy killing them, and in the meanwhile 11,000 ISIS prisoners the Kurds were guarding escaped.
So instead of starting a war, Trump made us substantially weaker in that region.
JI7
(93,618 posts)from coming here which Biden has reversed.
Chemisse
(31,348 posts)I often wondered why he didn't. It's the only good thing I can say about the swamp of horrors that was his presidency and it's probably attributable to some pathology of his - insecurity? cowardice?
Tiger8
(432 posts)Trump would never take military action against Russia, North Korea, or any other country where democracy was weak or non-existent.
There is a subtle (but major) distinction between the "peaceniks" who oppose any war based on humanitarian grounds, and others who side with the enemy. There were 2 basic factions that opposed WWII - the peaceniks and the American Nazis. Same stance, but very different reasons behind it.
Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)As always with Trump, the question is: Cui bono? Who benefits?
And getting entangled in foreign affairs doesn't extend merely to war. He wanted to withdraw from NATO, etc. He got involved in trade wars.
I don't know how much influence someone like Putin did or did not have on Trump. But you can't say a shrinking of American global influence isn't high on his wish list.
Chemisse
(31,348 posts)And it seems logical that he was doing the bidding of Putin, since everything seemed to be to Putin's benefit.
But Trump wanted to go after Iran. I wonder what stopped him (besides it being a stupid idea, which never stopped any of his other actions).
Beaverhausen
(24,699 posts)What war did Clinton start?
GoCubsGo
(34,915 posts)I don't recall Gerald Ford starting any, either. Nor, did Nixon or JFK.
You could say JFK did and Nixon kind of did by expanding the Vietnam war westward.
But, even if -- Ford, Carter, and Obama did not.
The Trumps are idiots.
wnylib
(26,023 posts)advisors in Vietnam.
But almost none. But, not really arguing -- my only point is that even Kennedy and Nixon are taken out of the equation -- his statement is still false.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)Ultimately, I am glad that he did, but it can not be said that Clinton DID NOT involve us in any new, foreign wars. He did.
-Laelth
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,213 posts)It was one of George H.W. Bush's acts that got us involved in Somalia. But the Balkans were on his watch. Although it was necessary to stop the genocide, which the U.S. failed to do in Rwanda.
spooky3
(38,634 posts)By many.
Beaverhausen
(24,699 posts)karynnj
(60,968 posts)President Obama did start a war to defeat ISIS, first building a 68 (I think) country coalition including countries in the region. Here Trump wants it both ways - he claims that HE led the effort to defeat ISIS, while his son obviously blames Obama for "starting it. In fact, the careful multinational plan that carefully tried to develop the basis of good governance had already made big strides and was largely followed - until Trump abandoned the Kurds at the end. This, in fact, might be the cause of a future resurgence that the multinational effort was trying to avoid.
He likely also would list Libya. Here, the US provided air support to defend the rebels who opposed Ghaddafi, allowing them to overthrow him. This was no more a war than the US providing aid to SA and UAE to fight in Yemen under Trump - so if we include one, we need to include all.
For Clinton, I imagine he counts US aided UN efforts in the former Yugoslavia. (Clinton brokered the Dayton Accord that ended a part of it.)
Chemisse
(31,348 posts)That seems to be something that recent Republican presidents have done, although Trump saved his warmongering for an insurrection.
Beaverhausen
(24,699 posts)Chemisse
(31,348 posts)OnlinePoker
(6,127 posts)He also authorized attacks in Libya against Qaddafi forces during the Arab spring.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,915 posts)Or, horrible lack thereof.
sop
(18,626 posts)Then he surrendered and we lost 400,000 Americans.
EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts)...to remember that a use it.
lame54
(39,771 posts)He declared war on the legislative branch
sandensea
(23,344 posts)The fact that Iran - and our Pentagon - didn't allow it to escalate into full-blown war was no thanks to Cheetolini.
lame54
(39,771 posts)sandensea
(23,344 posts)His dream, as you know, has always been to get us to fight his war with Iran for him.
Cheeto's defeat was a major setback for him in that regard - but it doesn't mean he'll stop trying.
sandensea
(23,344 posts)I guess they didn't show up in Junior Mint's high school history books (the last time he's obviously looked at one).
hibbing
(10,598 posts)Chemisse
(31,348 posts)I don't think the best team of psychotherapists could make a dent in Trump's problems. Frankly, I really don't care.
broiles
(1,455 posts)EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts).....who wanted to bomb everyone "until the rubble bounced" and felt that his foreign policy, based as it was on human rights, was not "realpolitik" enough for their tastes. Henry Hyde comes to mind as another repub asshole who should burn in hell. Funny, because by today's standards, he wouldn't qualify as a true RWNJ.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
bucolic_frolic
(55,144 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,720 posts)To have no offensive military action during his term.
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,770 posts)(thanks to the unholy alliance with Saudi Arabia). And when Congress demanded we get out, he vetoed that -
Deb Riechmann, The Associated Press
April 16, 2019
WASHINGTON President Donald Trump on Tuesday vetoed a resolution passed by Congress to end U.S. military assistance in Saudi Arabias war in Yemen.
The veto the second in Trump's presidency was expected, and Congress lacks the votes to override it. But passing the never-before-used war powers resolution was viewed as a milestone for lawmakers, who have shown a renewed willingness to assert their war-making authority after letting it atrophy for decades under presidents from both parties.
"This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future," Trump wrote in explaining his veto.
Congress has grown uneasy with Trump's close relationship with Saudi Arabia as he tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/04/17/trump-vetoes-measure-to-end-us-involvement-in-yemen-war/
By Tara Golshan Sep 10, 2019, 11:10am EDT
A motley crew of Congresss most conservative and most progressive lawmakers is fighting to end US involvement in the war in Yemen a move that would weaken President Donald Trumps relationship with Saudi Arabia.Its battleground: the nations massive defense budget. As Congress gears up to pass its 2020 defense budget which will likely amount to more than $730 billion in funding for the Pentagon and a couple other agencies national-security activities a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers led by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Mike Lee (R-UT) and Reps. Ro Khanna (D-CA) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL), is pushing to include a provision that would end US involvement in the Saudi-led war in Yemen.
The amendment prohibits support to and participation in the Saudi-led coalitions military operations against the Houthis in Yemen.If passed pulling together the same coalition of 54 senators, including seven Republicans, and 248 House lawmakers it would be a major rebuke of Trumps foreign policy, which has used the USs cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia to escalate tensions with Iran.
It wouldnt be lawmakers first attempt to do so, but it could be the most effective: In April, Congress passed a historic War Powers Resolution directing Trump to remove troops involved in hostilities in Yemen, a Saudi-led war against the Iranian-backed Houthis, thats killed more than 50,000 and left tens of millions in need of humanitarian aid. Trump vetoed it, committed to the USs long-standing alliance with the Riyadh not to mention his personal relationship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (the same MBS who allegedly called for Saudi Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggis killing).
The US was involved in the Saudi-led war before Trump took office for four years, the United States has been providing the Saudi-led coalition with intelligence, arms, and ammunition, and, until late last year, fuel for their warplanes. (The planes that bombed a school bus, killing at least 40 children last August, did so with an American-made bomb.) But by rejecting congressional attempts to end that involvement, Trump has cemented American fingerprints on one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world: According to the most recent United Nations report, 80 percent of the Yemeni population 24 million people is in need of humanitarian assistance. A recent United Nations report found that the US, Britain, and France may be complicit in war crimes in Yemen.
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/10/20849004/trump-yemen-war-saudi-arabia-mbs-ndaa
Cha
(319,089 posts)big daddy Treasonous Sadistic Monster.
Cha
(319,089 posts)Who needs a foreign war when you can put notch's in your belt with a war on your own people...and then go golfing.
ET Awful
(24,788 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)It was just on critical thinking and intelligence.
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)Here's this grown man grasping at straws (heehee) to defend his daddy and doesn't pay attention to his grammar. DJTJ, your stupidity is showing.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)even though they make excellent points, they are giving him the attention that he and the rest of the grifter family craves.
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)The Stupid is strong with this one