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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,732 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:26 PM Jan 2021

Donald Trump Jr. Gets A Blunt Reminder As Latest Boast About His Dad Backfires

Donald Trump Jr.’s latest boast about his dad did not go well.

Former President Donald Trump’s eldest son tweeted on Friday that his father, who was banned from the social media platform for inciting the U.S. Capitol riot, was “the first president in modern history” not to start a new war.


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Critics pounced on the post, bluntly reminding Trump Jr. of his father’s yearslong violent and divisive rhetoric, encouragement of the U.S. Capitol riot and his administration’s catastrophic handling of the coronavirus pandemic that has now killed more than 400,000 people nationwide.

“Who needs a new war when, as of this week, more Americans died from the coronavirus on your father’s watch, in less than 11 months, than died in *World War 2* over four years,” asked NBC journalist Mehdi Hasan.


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https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-jr-boast-dad-backfires-075008851.html

The Stupid is strong with this one.
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Donald Trump Jr. Gets A Blunt Reminder As Latest Boast About His Dad Backfires (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 OP
He is wrong Chainfire Jan 2021 #1
trumpf kristofarian Jan 2021 #33
Bing, Bing, Bing! We have a winnaa!! paleotn Jan 2021 #45
I actually DO give Trump credit for NOT starting a new foreign war. Laelth Jan 2021 #2
He abandoned the Kurds EndlessWire Jan 2021 #9
this AllyCat Jan 2021 #32
Yeah, abandoning the Kurds after we promised to protect them from the Turks PatrickforO Jan 2021 #38
Same with Afghanistan where he also banned those who helped the US JI7 Jan 2021 #49
I am also grateful he didn't start a foreign war. Chemisse Jan 2021 #24
Yes. Trump loves other dictators. Tiger8 Jan 2021 #31
Reduced projection of American foreign power Sympthsical Jan 2021 #39
He clearly acted in ways that reduced American influence and authority. Chemisse Jan 2021 #48
lol JI7 Jan 2021 #50
What war did Obama start? Beaverhausen Jan 2021 #3
Or, Jimmy Carter? GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #4
Well TimeToGo Jan 2021 #16
Eisenhower put the first US military wnylib Jan 2021 #19
Yes TimeToGo Jan 2021 #41
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2021 #7
Clinton involved us in conflicts in Somalia and the Balkans. Laelth Jan 2021 #10
Not quite liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2021 #21
I visited the Balkans a few years ago. Clinton is still viewed as a hero spooky3 Jan 2021 #30
Read what Jr. said. Start a new war Beaverhausen Jan 2021 #53
From memory karynnj Jan 2021 #15
Who said they started wars? Chemisse Jan 2021 #26
Well, Don Jr said it. Read the OP Beaverhausen Jan 2021 #52
Oh! I did read it but got caught up in all the responses and forgot what the OP said - LOL! n/t Chemisse Jan 2021 #55
Obama expanded the war into Syria. OnlinePoker Jan 2021 #28
Trump started a war between Americans and racist terrorist and he sided with the terrorist uponit7771 Jan 2021 #5
I see Stank inherited his father's intelligence and knowledge of history. GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #6
Didn't Trump declare himself a "war time president" at his virus task force briefings last year? sop Jan 2021 #8
That is a wonderful characterization, "war time president who surrendered". We've got ... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #22
I call bullshit... lame54 Jan 2021 #11
And what does he call the ATTEMPTED war on Iran last year sandensea Jan 2021 #13
The Iranian Physicist assassination has Pompeo's name all over it lame54 Jan 2021 #14
And Bibi's sandensea Jan 2021 #29
Ford, Carter, Clinton, and Obama started no new wars sandensea Jan 2021 #12
I hope he gets the help he needs n/t hibbing Jan 2021 #17
You are kind. I hope he gets helped into a jail cell. Chemisse Jan 2021 #27
Did Jimmy Carter start any wars? broiles Jan 2021 #18
Jimmy Carter, one of my personal heroes, was roundly criticized by congressional war hawks.... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #25
+1 n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #54
eh, what's a war when you can orchestrate your own INSURRECTION? bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #20
Carter was the last President SCantiGOP Jan 2021 #23
More replies: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #34
Except. Yemen. BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #35
Jr .. Stupid Sociopath like his Cha Jan 2021 #36
Gawd Jr's Stupid.. stupid father started Cha Jan 2021 #37
+1000 sheshe2 Jan 2021 #47
There's that trade war he started (and lost) n/t ET Awful Jan 2021 #40
Trump did start a war... Chicago1980 Jan 2021 #42
It's so unfortunate... Cozmo Jan 2021 #43
I wish that people would ignore him on twitter DesertRat Jan 2021 #44
no,drumpf just declared war on democracy, all democrats, and the Constitution! demigoddess Jan 2021 #46
k&r Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #51
He's dumber than a doorknob. SMDH... Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #56
 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
1. He is wrong
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

His Father started a war, against the American people on 1/6. In true Trump fashion, he lost it in six hours.

 

kristofarian

(75 posts)
33. trumpf
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jan 2021

trumpfed himself!

got a LOT to look forward to
there junior trumpfy &
what will you
Destroy?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. I actually DO give Trump credit for NOT starting a new foreign war.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jan 2021

That said, it must be remembered that Trump fomented an internal, violent, insurrection, instead, and that wipes out any credit he might deserve for not involving us in any new foreign entanglements.

Trump is the only President in our history to incite rebellion and encourage the overthrow of our government. For that reason alone, he shall be (he must be) forever condemned.

-Laelth

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
9. He abandoned the Kurds
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

while diddling with Erdogan. He doesn't get any credit. He is still going to trial. Nice attempt to mitigate. Too little substance, however.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
38. Yeah, abandoning the Kurds after we promised to protect them from the Turks
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jan 2021

was despicable, because the Turks basically drove out the Kurds from their homes, and are busy killing them, and in the meanwhile 11,000 ISIS prisoners the Kurds were guarding escaped.

So instead of starting a war, Trump made us substantially weaker in that region.

JI7

(93,618 posts)
49. Same with Afghanistan where he also banned those who helped the US
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jan 2021

from coming here which Biden has reversed.

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
24. I am also grateful he didn't start a foreign war.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jan 2021

I often wondered why he didn't. It's the only good thing I can say about the swamp of horrors that was his presidency and it's probably attributable to some pathology of his - insecurity? cowardice?

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
31. Yes. Trump loves other dictators.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:15 PM
Jan 2021

Trump would never take military action against Russia, North Korea, or any other country where democracy was weak or non-existent.

There is a subtle (but major) distinction between the "peaceniks" who oppose any war based on humanitarian grounds, and others who side with the enemy. There were 2 basic factions that opposed WWII - the peaceniks and the American Nazis. Same stance, but very different reasons behind it.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
39. Reduced projection of American foreign power
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jan 2021

As always with Trump, the question is: Cui bono? Who benefits?

And getting entangled in foreign affairs doesn't extend merely to war. He wanted to withdraw from NATO, etc. He got involved in trade wars.

I don't know how much influence someone like Putin did or did not have on Trump. But you can't say a shrinking of American global influence isn't high on his wish list.

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
48. He clearly acted in ways that reduced American influence and authority.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jan 2021

And it seems logical that he was doing the bidding of Putin, since everything seemed to be to Putin's benefit.

But Trump wanted to go after Iran. I wonder what stopped him (besides it being a stupid idea, which never stopped any of his other actions).

GoCubsGo

(34,915 posts)
4. Or, Jimmy Carter?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jan 2021

I don't recall Gerald Ford starting any, either. Nor, did Nixon or JFK.

TimeToGo

(1,443 posts)
16. Well
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jan 2021

You could say JFK did and Nixon kind of did by expanding the Vietnam war westward.

But, even if -- Ford, Carter, and Obama did not.

The Trumps are idiots.

TimeToGo

(1,443 posts)
41. Yes
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jan 2021

But almost none. But, not really arguing -- my only point is that even Kennedy and Nixon are taken out of the equation -- his statement is still false.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. Clinton involved us in conflicts in Somalia and the Balkans.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jan 2021

Ultimately, I am glad that he did, but it can not be said that Clinton DID NOT involve us in any new, foreign wars. He did.

-Laelth

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,213 posts)
21. Not quite
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jan 2021

It was one of George H.W. Bush's acts that got us involved in Somalia. But the Balkans were on his watch. Although it was necessary to stop the genocide, which the U.S. failed to do in Rwanda.

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
15. From memory
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jan 2021

President Obama did start a war to defeat ISIS, first building a 68 (I think) country coalition including countries in the region. Here Trump wants it both ways - he claims that HE led the effort to defeat ISIS, while his son obviously blames Obama for "starting it. In fact, the careful multinational plan that carefully tried to develop the basis of good governance had already made big strides and was largely followed - until Trump abandoned the Kurds at the end. This, in fact, might be the cause of a future resurgence that the multinational effort was trying to avoid.

He likely also would list Libya. Here, the US provided air support to defend the rebels who opposed Ghaddafi, allowing them to overthrow him. This was no more a war than the US providing aid to SA and UAE to fight in Yemen under Trump - so if we include one, we need to include all.

For Clinton, I imagine he counts US aided UN efforts in the former Yugoslavia. (Clinton brokered the Dayton Accord that ended a part of it.)

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
26. Who said they started wars?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:49 PM
Jan 2021

That seems to be something that recent Republican presidents have done, although Trump saved his warmongering for an insurrection.

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
55. Oh! I did read it but got caught up in all the responses and forgot what the OP said - LOL! n/t
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:24 AM
Jan 2021

OnlinePoker

(6,127 posts)
28. Obama expanded the war into Syria.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jan 2021

He also authorized attacks in Libya against Qaddafi forces during the Arab spring.

GoCubsGo

(34,915 posts)
6. I see Stank inherited his father's intelligence and knowledge of history.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jan 2021

Or, horrible lack thereof.

sop

(18,626 posts)
8. Didn't Trump declare himself a "war time president" at his virus task force briefings last year?
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jan 2021

Then he surrendered and we lost 400,000 Americans.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
22. That is a wonderful characterization, "war time president who surrendered". We've got ...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

...to remember that a use it.

sandensea

(23,344 posts)
13. And what does he call the ATTEMPTED war on Iran last year
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jan 2021

The fact that Iran - and our Pentagon - didn't allow it to escalate into full-blown war was no thanks to Cheetolini.

sandensea

(23,344 posts)
29. And Bibi's
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jan 2021

His dream, as you know, has always been to get us to fight his war with Iran for him.

Cheeto's defeat was a major setback for him in that regard - but it doesn't mean he'll stop trying.

sandensea

(23,344 posts)
12. Ford, Carter, Clinton, and Obama started no new wars
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jan 2021

I guess they didn't show up in Junior Mint's high school history books (the last time he's obviously looked at one).

Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
27. You are kind. I hope he gets helped into a jail cell.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jan 2021

I don't think the best team of psychotherapists could make a dent in Trump's problems. Frankly, I really don't care.

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
25. Jimmy Carter, one of my personal heroes, was roundly criticized by congressional war hawks....
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jan 2021

.....who wanted to bomb everyone "until the rubble bounced" and felt that his foreign policy, based as it was on human rights, was not "realpolitik" enough for their tastes. Henry Hyde comes to mind as another repub asshole who should burn in hell. Funny, because by today's standards, he wouldn't qualify as a true RWNJ.

BumRushDaShow

(169,770 posts)
35. Except. Yemen.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jan 2021

(thanks to the unholy alliance with Saudi Arabia). And when Congress demanded we get out, he vetoed that -

Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war
Deb Riechmann, The Associated Press
April 16, 2019


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Tuesday vetoed a resolution passed by Congress to end U.S. military assistance in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen.

The veto — the second in Trump's presidency — was expected, and Congress lacks the votes to override it. But passing the never-before-used war powers resolution was viewed as a milestone for lawmakers, who have shown a renewed willingness to assert their war-making authority after letting it atrophy for decades under presidents from both parties.

"This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future," Trump wrote in explaining his veto.

Congress has grown uneasy with Trump's close relationship with Saudi Arabia as he tries to further isolate Iran, a regional rival.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/04/17/trump-vetoes-measure-to-end-us-involvement-in-yemen-war/



A motley crew of lawmakers is gearing up for a fight over the defense budget.

By Tara Golshan Sep 10, 2019, 11:10am EDT


A motley crew of Congress’s most conservative and most progressive lawmakers is fighting to end US involvement in the war in Yemen — a move that would weaken President Donald Trump’s relationship with Saudi Arabia.Its battleground: the nation’s massive defense budget. As Congress gears up to pass its 2020 defense budget — which will likely amount to more than $730 billion in funding for the Pentagon and a couple other agencies’ national-security activities — a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers led by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Mike Lee (R-UT) and Reps. Ro Khanna (D-CA) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL), is pushing to include a provision that would end US involvement in the Saudi-led war in Yemen.

The amendment “prohibits support to and participation in the Saudi-led coalitions military operations against the Houthis in Yemen.”If passed — pulling together the same coalition of 54 senators, including seven Republicans, and 248 House lawmakers — it would be a major rebuke of Trump’s foreign policy, which has used the US’s cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia to escalate tensions with Iran.

It wouldn’t be lawmakers’ first attempt to do so, but it could be the most effective: In April, Congress passed a historic War Powers Resolution directing Trump to remove troops involved in “hostilities” in Yemen, a Saudi-led war against the Iranian-backed Houthis, that’s killed more than 50,000 and left tens of millions in need of humanitarian aid. Trump vetoed it, committed to the US’s long-standing alliance with the Riyadh — not to mention his personal relationship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (the same MBS who allegedly called for Saudi Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s killing).

The US was involved in the Saudi-led war before Trump took office — for four years, the United States has been providing the Saudi-led coalition with intelligence, arms, and ammunition, and, until late last year, fuel for their warplanes. (The planes that bombed a school bus, killing at least 40 children last August, did so with an American-made bomb.) But by rejecting congressional attempts to end that involvement, Trump has cemented American fingerprints on one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world: According to the most recent United Nations report, 80 percent of the Yemeni population — 24 million people — is in need of humanitarian assistance. A recent United Nations report found that the US, Britain, and France may be complicit in war crimes in Yemen.

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/10/20849004/trump-yemen-war-saudi-arabia-mbs-ndaa

sheshe2

(97,637 posts)
47. +1000
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jan 2021

Who needs a foreign war when you can put notch's in your belt with a war on your own people...and then go golfing.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
43. It's so unfortunate...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 05:41 PM
Jan 2021

Here's this grown man grasping at straws (heehee) to defend his daddy and doesn't pay attention to his grammar. DJTJ, your stupidity is showing.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
44. I wish that people would ignore him on twitter
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jan 2021

even though they make excellent points, they are giving him the attention that he and the rest of the grifter family craves.

demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
46. no,drumpf just declared war on democracy, all democrats, and the Constitution!
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jan 2021

The Stupid is strong with this one

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