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New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet (Original Post) FelineOverlord Jan 2021 OP
New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #1
New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #2
the long thread by Josh Shahryar is unrolled here and worth a read--she sounds so amazing. And kind renate Jan 2021 #52
This kind of thing is why I, a New Yorker, subscribe to the Wash. Post. Squinch Jan 2021 #3
I'm canceling my digital subscription Beakybird Jan 2021 #4
Thanks; hope you can tell them why. Kittycow Jan 2021 #5
they care about why people cancel KayF Jan 2021 #44
I don't know why she thinks she shouldn't be fired Loki Liesmith Jan 2021 #6
I don't know why she thinks she shouldn't be fired FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #7
The reaction to Haberman is silly Loki Liesmith Jan 2021 #12
The reaction to Haberman is silly FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #28
Agree. Don't understand at all the attitude of previous poster. triron Jan 2021 #41
Well, post number 12 sure explains post number 6 n/t kcr Jan 2021 #39
Did her job oh shit who are you kidding? jcgoldie Jan 2021 #47
You seem nice. mac56 Jan 2021 #15
.. Cha Jan 2021 #19
+1 bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #20
... UpInArms Jan 2021 #21
+1 Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #31
... SidDithers Jan 2021 #33
No I don't Loki Liesmith Jan 2021 #53
Thats become a problem these days. Reporters becoming part of the story. oldsoftie Jan 2021 #26
I am suspicious twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #8
What two different ways? I had babylonsister Jan 2021 #10
+1 Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #32
Trump gave me chills from fear twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #34
One can have chills for other reasons. For example... thesquanderer Jan 2021 #59
Nope. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2021 #42
New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #9
Oh, that's terrible :( Kittycow Jan 2021 #50
This Is An Odd Story ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Jan 2021 #13
I blame Biden for this outrage! jaxexpat Jan 2021 #14
The incels who sent the outrage threats should be doxxed. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #16
What has the Times said about the firing? RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #17
It is not the responsibility of an employer to make public why someone was fired MichMan Jan 2021 #24
But the paper's reputation is on the line RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #49
That's my take on it. Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #38
I agree PatSeg Jan 2021 #56
NYT is atrocious. lark Jan 2021 #18
For me it was Judith Miller UpInArms Jan 2021 #23
Now if she had said Old Terp Jan 2021 #22
New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #25
Deleted tweet for context. hay rick Jan 2021 #27
Deleted tweet for context. FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #29
I wish she had referred to the 'peaceful transition of power after an insurrection.' SMC22307 Jan 2021 #61
Washington Post DemUnleashed Jan 2021 #30
What to keep to yourself with friends, family, coworkers, on social media, at DU Beringia Jan 2021 #35
What got me was the cousins in the mental institution. marie999 Jan 2021 #60
No Democrat, liberal or progressive should have a subscription to the NYT servermsh Jan 2021 #36
My dad was a journalism major. GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #37
Normally, I'd agree with you Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #40
Saying you have chills is not a political view. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #57
He would if it was Hitler or anything close to that, and Trump was uponit7771 Jan 2021 #64
New York Times Reporter Apparently Fired For Biden Tweet FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #43
Lawsuit should be in the works, for sure. ananda Jan 2021 #45
Under what grounds? MichMan Jan 2021 #55
I don't know.. ananda Jan 2021 #58
Just a claim of disperit treatment, 100 yrs of males not being fired for saying how they feel could uponit7771 Jan 2021 #65
Another reason now why I am glad I chose WAPO over NYT Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #46
Greenwald gets NYT reporter fired, then whines about "censorship Gothmog Jan 2021 #48
He's one of "those guys" who loves having it both ways FakeNoose Jan 2021 #51
That asshole also got Reality Winner arrested dustyscamp Jan 2021 #54
This is because of Greenwald JonLP24 Jan 2021 #62
That is one BS firing. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #63

renate

(13,776 posts)
52. the long thread by Josh Shahryar is unrolled here and worth a read--she sounds so amazing. And kind
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

This is the reporter they fired, after her dangerous and dedicated reporting on the violent rape of women in Syria and about another even more horrific story I won't describe here (but will add a trigger warning because it's mentioned in this thread linked to below). She got the perpetrators of that second story arrested. After accomplishing all that, she sent a tweet saying that she got chills seeing the arrival of a new president. And she got fired.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1353124692069019649.html

KayF

(1,345 posts)
44. they care about why people cancel
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:09 PM
Jan 2021

I cancelled last year via chat, they had a list of reasons for cancelling, i chose "editorial content", they directed me to a live person to get the details.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
6. I don't know why she thinks she shouldn't be fired
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Bc there is a pandemic going on. That’s a level of entitlement I can’t process. People are getting fired every day.

As to whether she should have been fired or not: it’s a bit severe. But reporters spend too much time opining on Twitter and that should stop.

FelineOverlord

(3,571 posts)
7. I don't know why she thinks she shouldn't be fired
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:24 AM
Jan 2021

They had no trouble with Maggie Haberman promoting Trump for years because she had very special “access” to Trump.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
12. The reaction to Haberman is silly
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:48 AM
Jan 2021

She reported on the man and what he was thinking, such as it was. She did her job.

FelineOverlord

(3,571 posts)
28. The reaction to Haberman is silly
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:08 AM
Jan 2021

Maggie Haberman is known as MAGA Haberman and Trump’s stenographer for obvious reasons.

For years she wrote puff pieces on the Trumps. Maggie’s own mother worked for a company that promoted the Kushners.



jcgoldie

(11,610 posts)
47. Did her job oh shit who are you kidding?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

Haberman was a Trump shill from the beginning. She perpetually tried to normalize Trump no matter how outrageous inappropriate or unethical his actions. Willful ignorance of that is just revisionist history.

oldsoftie

(12,486 posts)
26. Thats become a problem these days. Reporters becoming part of the story.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jan 2021

Reporters being guests on late night talk shows. Reporters being made part of social events.
A true reporter reports the news & the facts without opining.

babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
10. What two different ways? I had
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:40 AM
Jan 2021

chills, too, finally realizing we're seeing what we'd hoped for for so long. How else could this be interpreted?

thesquanderer

(11,970 posts)
59. One can have chills for other reasons. For example...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jan 2021

...the prospect of Trump running again in 2024 gives me chills. Chills can be good or bad.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
50. Oh, that's terrible :(
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jan 2021

But I'm glad she brought those tweets to light instead of hiding them and reports them for harassment.

Guess they're not so much for unity /s

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
11. This Is An Odd Story
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:41 AM
Jan 2021

Is there a condition of employment we don't know about?
Something like reporters not offering opinion, especially on other media?
That hardly seems a fireable offense, but I do think this points to a downside of social media fascination.
Her job was to report for her employer. Perhaps staying off Twitter, except to promote her stories published in her paper would be an appropriate approach.
As to the foolish & vulgar personal attacks; there's not a defense to that by anyone.

Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)

jaxexpat

(6,795 posts)
14. I blame Biden for this outrage!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jan 2021

It's because he's a decent, hardworking, generous spirited and respectable guy that people get into the gratitude and adoration thing, complete with chills, tingles and tears. It's all Biden's fault. Much to the detriment of this unfortunate, intrepid reporter.

He should be removed ASAP lest more succumb to his unconscionable tactic of blatant honesty and thus find themselves believing in America and its institutions again. Such a trajectory, if left unchecked, could lead to the disaster of a functional government working toward a just society for the benefit of its citizens. I mean, who's going to pay for this? Will the beneficiaries have sufficiently suffered or adequately toiled in an uphill struggle to enrich the 1% of their peers to justify expectation of a well-deserved reward? I shudder to imagine what our founders would think? What will future historians make of this mess? How many will complain, insensitive to the sarcasm behind every word of this missive? Entertained by this diatribe of facetious concept so close to the heart of good will and well intention?

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
17. What has the Times said about the firing?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:23 AM
Jan 2021

There has to be more to her getting bounced than the tweet. The tweet is plain vanilla. It should not even have been a factor.

The Times owes it to itself and its readership to explain what is being touted as a cold blooded act of political pandering.

There has to be more to this.

MichMan

(11,864 posts)
24. It is not the responsibility of an employer to make public why someone was fired
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jan 2021

One could actually argue the opposite

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
49. But the paper's reputation is on the line
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

They may not have the responsibility to address the matter, but they certainly wouldn’t have to go into graphic details. A simple:”She was not dismissed because of the tweet” would suffice, followed by “other than that, we will not go into personnel matters, etc.”

Unless, of course, it was the tweet. If it were, I may be done with the Times.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
56. I agree
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jan 2021

There could be more to this firing than we know and yes, the New York Times should clarify their reasons. Though they are not obligated to do so, it could benefit their image if they did. I find it hard to believe that tweet was the cause.

lark

(23,059 posts)
18. NYT is atrocious.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:26 AM
Jan 2021

I unsubscribed from them years ago because of the way they pushed the Hillary emails and have never gone back. This is beyond ridiculous that the editor would let anti-American reich wingers cause this young woman to lose her job. If it had been drumpf, not one thing would have happened. So, now, until I hear she's rehired, I won't ever read anything from that rag.

UpInArms

(51,279 posts)
23. For me it was Judith Miller
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jan 2021

Here is a wiki on them

List of controversies involving The New York Times

Contents
1 New York City’s hushed-up lead poisoning epidemic of 1848 to 1992
2 The Russian Revolution, 1917–1920
3 Los Alamos investigation
4 The 1619 Project
5 Anthrax attacks
6 Staff Resignations
6.1 Jayson Blair
6.2 Judith Miller
6.2.1 Second Iraq War
6.2.2 Valerie Plame affair
6.3 Bari Weiss
7 National Security Agency revelations delayed
8 Terrorist Finance Tracking Program
9 MoveOn.org ad controversy
10 Corporate-influence concerns
11 Duke University lacrosse case reporting
12 John McCain-lobbyist article criticism
13 Alessandra Stanley errors
14 Anti-Indian sentiment
15 Abu Huzaifa al-Kanadi
16 Anti-British sentiment
16.1 Publishing leaked photos from the Manchester bombing
16.2 Yorkshire pudding
16.3 London restaurants
16.4 Claims of a racism and extremism
16.5 British beaches
17 Putin-Trump kiss cartoon
18 Anti-Chinese sentiment
19 Hiring of Sarah Jeong
20 Coverage of the Holocaust
21 Accusations of anti-Semitism
21.1 Anti-Semitic cartoons
21.2 Anti-Semitic political editor
22 Accusation of plagiarism
23 See also
24 References
25 External links

Old Terp

(464 posts)
22. Now if she had said
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jan 2021

She broke into a Happy Dance and started singing "Hit the Road Jack" when AF1 went wheels up and took Trump away, that would still be okay. Okay, so that's what I did and I suspect most of the world.

hay rick

(7,584 posts)
27. Deleted tweet for context.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:06 AM
Jan 2021
https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-york-times-cancels-contract-of-editor-who-tweeted-having-chills-on-biden-inauguration-day/

Wolfe also criticized outgoing President Donald Trump, calling what she said was his decision not to send a military plane to bring Biden to D.C. for the inauguration was “mortifying” and “childish.” She later deleted the tweet after learning that Biden had chosen to take his own plane to D.C.


Still don't think the original tweet or the combination of the two is worth firing.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
61. I wish she had referred to the 'peaceful transition of power after an insurrection.'
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jan 2021

The outrage machine might not have had as much to be outraged about.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
35. What to keep to yourself with friends, family, coworkers, on social media, at DU
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

I guess therapists are the last safe refuge. Not even them, because they have the power to declare you incompetent. The Royal Family tried to make out that Diana was mentally deranged. Just got done watching the Crown on Netflix

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. My dad was a journalism major.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

He would never put up political signs nor discuss politics with anyone that was not a very close friend or family. If her job was straight up news reporting then tweeting out her political views under her real name is a problem. If she was an opinion writer then the rules are different.

Perhaps I’m old school. DU is the only social media I do. Because I don’t the world knowing my beliefs.

Turin_C3PO

(13,896 posts)
40. Normally, I'd agree with you
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jan 2021

but Trump is such an aberration given that he attempted a coup to stay in power that I don’t see it as a problem even if straight news reporters make it known that they’re glad he’s gone.

MichMan

(11,864 posts)
55. Under what grounds?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:52 PM
Jan 2021

Even if it was for the tweet (which we don't know), people are fired for social media posts all the time. When it happens to a a RW, we usually even celebrate it here.

ananda

(28,831 posts)
58. I don't know..
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jan 2021

I don't think an employee can fire a person
on such flimsy grounds.

It doesn't exactly qualify as hate speech or
immoral conduct, now does it?

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
65. Just a claim of disperit treatment, 100 yrs of males not being fired for saying how they feel could
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:12 AM
Jan 2021

... be easily proven.

This is stupid on its face

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
63. That is one BS firing.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:15 AM
Jan 2021

NYTimes does some good journalism, but also prints some irresponsible BS. Lots of "let's try to understand the disgruntled Trump base," but very little, " Let's try to understand Obama or Biden or Hillary voters.

This tweet was innocuous and not even necessarily partisan. A new president landing can be exciting. I'll bet others have done worse there and weren't fired.

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