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AOC is going HARD on that insufferable Josh Hawley (Original Post) True Dough Jan 2021 OP
Yeah it's amazing how often I hear in major media from "muzzled" politicians Takket Jan 2021 #1
Their goal is to convince others that they are being silenced... Caliman73 Jan 2021 #9
NAILED IT!!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #18
Yes it is maddening. Caliman73 Jan 2021 #29
Victimhood is a powerful addiction lunatica Jan 2021 #31
Love that, its a keeper PatSeg Jan 2021 #34
That is fantastic! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #51
Her wit is always with me. lunatica Jan 2021 #52
I can do nothing but admire those in Congress who stand strong, courageous, and speak the truth... hlthe2b Jan 2021 #2
That ought to be a major concern True Dough Jan 2021 #4
Not only is Hawley not as smart as Hawley thinks he is, AOC does not mince words, and she don't lie. marble falls Jan 2021 #3
She does what all Democrats need to do BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #5
Amen to that mtnsnake Jan 2021 #42
we need more like her, not less, I LOVE to see our elected Dems punch back against these fuckers Celerity Jan 2021 #6
Call them out every time!! True Dough Jan 2021 #7
Rep. AOC has Sen. Hawley hooked, and she is going to gut him alive. NCjack Jan 2021 #8
Hmm, Katie and her Whiteboard ain't so bad either. Tommymac Jan 2021 #21
This right here SledDriver Jan 2021 #10
Hawley is a very dangerous candidate. A Trump with brains and ambitions. Crooks and liars linked a Pepsidog Jan 2021 #11
Actually I don't care where he went to school, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #15
I used to live in Palo Alto WA-03 Democrat Jan 2021 #38
Regarding Ted Cruz and Princeton, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #40
I grew up in Palo Alto and graduated from Stanford. soldierant Jan 2021 #41
I can go along with that. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #43
I agree with all the responses, I was trying to make the point that Hawley has a record of beliefs Pepsidog Jan 2021 #48
Absolutely. No argument there. soldierant Jan 2021 #53
She's never going to be allowed into the Admirals Club talking like that! ffr Jan 2021 #12
Suppression of "conservative" speech by Big Tech social media platforms Martin Eden Jan 2021 #13
Lies and threats of violence are conservative speech DBoon Jan 2021 #37
Her twitter use seems to be going down WA-03 Democrat Jan 2021 #14
I love that girl. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #16
But will he have a base? birdographer Jan 2021 #17
WHOA!!! Interesting point! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #22
BOOM!!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #19
Love the spirit and smarts of AOC PufPuf23 Jan 2021 #20
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #23
That comic encapsulates the situation nicely, Rhiannon True Dough Jan 2021 #24
Just added an illustration.. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #26
We hear and see more of those who claim they have been silenced CatMor Jan 2021 #27
Yayyyy for AOC! niyad Jan 2021 #25
That is Magnificent! cp Jan 2021 #28
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #30
I have read the 1st amendment very carefully several times, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #32
He deserves it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #33
These are facts, not opinions Bluethroughu Jan 2021 #35
Josh Hawley shames every Missouri voter. calimary Jan 2021 #36
When I hear people insulting red states as an entity, Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #44
:) Yes. We do, and we vote together also. Hortensis Jan 2021 #47
And if you think of it that way... druidity33 Jan 2021 #54
Back in the day, Rushbaugh pushed the idea Grokenstein Jan 2021 #39
Trumpers seem to think there should be no consequences for their words. CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #45
Isn't that the truth, Captain! True Dough Jan 2021 #46
Right on! Nitram Jan 2021 #49
💜💜💜💜💜 Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #50
This person definitely appreciates what AOC brings to the table... True Dough Jan 2021 #55
YES! This is perfect Bettie Jan 2021 #57
She is damn smart! True Dough Jan 2021 #58
Elizabeth Warren was my first choice last year Bettie Jan 2021 #59
I was on board with Mayor Pete True Dough Jan 2021 #60
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #56
Hawley probably doesn't understand what she said to him, because... WyattKansas Jan 2021 #61

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
9. Their goal is to convince others that they are being silenced...
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

They are "working the refs". That is what right wingers do. They complain that they are being silenced while having almost unfettered access to media.

The sad thing is that they have convinced many that there is a "liberal media" that pushes an agenda like right wing media pushes one. If the media outlet is not specifically pushing a hard right agenda, then it is "liberal media".

Fascists and hard right types love to push the narrative of simultaneously being strong and being victimized by enemies on all sides. It is meant to insulate and arouse their followers to react from fear and bond through a shared perception of strength.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
18. NAILED IT!!!!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

I want to "smack 'em upside the head" whenever I hear a RW Nut-Job complain about the "librul' media!"

It's just embarrassing that they've gotten so much "mileage" out of such a distorted, bullshit claim!

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
29. Yes it is maddening.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jan 2021

There are some pretty interesting videos on You Tube about how the right uses liberalism's own values against it. Contrapoints has some videos about "Does the Left hate free speech?" and "How to Spot a Fascist". Innuendo Studios has a whole series called "The Alt-Right Playbook". Both of them go into depth on how right wingers use the ideas of being neutral and impartial, and the idea of tolerance against liberals to push their agenda. They have some critiques of liberalism, as they are more left wing, but they are good information.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. Victimhood is a powerful addiction
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jan 2021

My mother used to say that self pity is the best kind because you know it’s sincere.

I miss her humor. She was quite the wit.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
51. That is fantastic!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jan 2021

I can see those words gracing a Molly Ivins article, and that is high praise indeed.

I'm sorry you have to miss her.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
52. Her wit is always with me.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jan 2021

It’s nice to have a chuckle and a smile when I think about her. She was a very involved Democrat who would have fit right in here in DU. Smart as a whip with a tongue to match. And funny too.

hlthe2b

(102,197 posts)
2. I can do nothing but admire those in Congress who stand strong, courageous, and speak the truth...
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jan 2021

That said, I hope her safety is being ensured.

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
4. That ought to be a major concern
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

There are plenty of Tumpanzees would relish in doing harm to AOC. I hope none of them EVER get the chance.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
5. She does what all Democrats need to do
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jan 2021

Fight every day, live in the political moment because if you don’t the supposedly benevolent arc of the universe bends sideways to down.

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
7. Call them out every time!!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, Celerity, their treachery needs to be put on full display by brilliant minds, just as AOC is doing.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
8. Rep. AOC has Sen. Hawley hooked, and she is going to gut him alive.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

AOC is the best. She is one of my fave DEMs. I really like what she is doing.

SledDriver

(2,058 posts)
10. This right here
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jan 2021

some interpret the right to free speech as “I have the right to be liked, accepted, and popular no matter what I say, who I endanger, or how much I lie”

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
11. Hawley is a very dangerous candidate. A Trump with brains and ambitions. Crooks and liars linked a
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jan 2021

story about Hawley that is truly horrifying. In 8th grade he signed a yearbook for a friend Hawley President 2024. His teachers deom grade school through Stanford and Yale note his driving ambition and intellect. At every level this guy was told he will be president someday. And many of his classmates at Yale say he has changed, and not for the good. He was groomed by his pro-life fanatical mother and the article ends by saying while January 6 may have caused a drop in his popularity at home, it gave him national exposure and name recognition and why his political consulting form that makes all his decisions this guy is going to be a force we Dems better take seriously. Good read at link.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article248663695.html

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
15. Actually I don't care where he went to school,
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jan 2021

I think he's a moron. I lived and worked in Silicon Valley for a few decades and I've met many Stanford grads who were idiots and social misfits.

I also think lawyers become politicians because they aren't very good lawyers. A good lawyer can make way more money than a member of Congress, legally or illegally.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,039 posts)
38. I used to live in Palo Alto
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jan 2021

Many fools were found on the Stanford campus. Misfits is too nice but it works.

Here’s some other shockers:
1) In 1986, Mike Pompeo graduated first in his class from the United States Military Academy at West Point.
2) Ted Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University in 1992.
3) Carter Page graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1993; he graduated with distinction (top 10% of his class) and was chosen for the Navy's Trident Scholar program

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
40. Regarding Ted Cruz and Princeton,
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jan 2021

I remember reading an article years ago about him when he was first elected. It said when he was at Princeton, he required anyone who joined his study group to have gone to one of a short list of high end prep schools. The gist of the article was along the lines of what a self-important arrogant prick he was.

But I wonder if it was just him surrounding himself with very intelligent people so he could ride on the backs of their work. Now I should say I went no farther than community college and I don't know much about the culture at higher learning institutions. Just a thought, though.

soldierant

(6,836 posts)
41. I grew up in Palo Alto and graduated from Stanford.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, there are "educated idiots," way too many of them ... but what they are lacking is not exactly intelligence. It's not even always the same thing. For some it's clearly false premises (alternative facts) that make them irrational. For others it's clearly empathy - they can see very clearly what needs to be done to maximize their own wealth and welfare and pursue that very cleverly and to hell with anyone else. With still others, it could be something as simple as attention span. You do not get admitted to Stanford or Harvard or Yale or Princeton without having at least academic intelligence. The problem is, academic intelligence isn't enough.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
48. I agree with all the responses, I was trying to make the point that Hawley has a record of beliefs
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jan 2021

about America that dates back to when he was 15 years old writing a column for his local paper defending the grievances that cause people like McVeigh to blow up a federal building and defending armed militias. He takes his advice from the sale political consultants that put Rick Scott in Fla. gov seat and now a US Senator and propelled him from the Missouri AG to a US Senator. It’s not about where he went to school or how much money he can make as a lawyer, I’m a lawyer and know Hawley can make hell of alit more in the private sector. The danger is that Hawley, unlike Trump, is book smart and a religious zealot to boot. Should Biden and the Dems not deliver over the next four years or should we find ourselves in worse shape than we are now, the danger of a real authoritarian coming to power is real. And while the article I referred to was not flattering to Hawley it ends by mentioning that while Hawley”s popularity has slipped, overall he is now better known nationally and poised to make a run at replacing Trump with his base. Hawley doesn’t carry the baggage the Trump did. Even fellow students at Stanford and Yale say that Hawley they see today is much worse version they saw back in the day.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
12. She's never going to be allowed into the Admirals Club talking like that!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jan 2021

I like it! Give 'em hell, Alexandria!!!

Martin Eden

(12,862 posts)
13. Suppression of "conservative" speech by Big Tech social media platforms
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jan 2021

Those platforms are targeting blatant lies, especially the kind of misinformation that could provoke violence like we saw Jan 6.

Conclusion:
"Conservative" speech largely consists of blatant, dangerous, LIES.

They are complaining because it's getting more difficult to disseminate those dangerous lies.

DBoon

(22,353 posts)
37. Lies and threats of violence are conservative speech
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jan 2021

If they would argue political policy, they would find no obstacles.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,039 posts)
14. Her twitter use seems to be going down
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jan 2021

Last time I checked her feed it was like a machine gun. I hope she picks a couple of repukes (Ted and Josh) and beat them bloody.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
16. I love that girl.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

These damn rethugs expect women to be cute and quiet...they just don't know how to handle strong, smart women who don't spend their days gazing up at them adoringly, a la Nancy Reagan.

Keep giving them hell, girlfriend. Harry Truman is smiling down on you.

birdographer

(1,322 posts)
17. But will he have a base?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:22 PM
Jan 2021

I'm not sure if the trump morons will glom onto this guy as the shiny new object of their devotion. Trump was as stupid as his base, they all spoke the same language. I imagine this monster uses words with more than one syllable. He's not a TV celebrity. He's dangerous nonetheless. Hopefully we can find a way to hobble him in the next few years.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
22. WHOA!!! Interesting point!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jan 2021

A really good point you make:

*"Trump was as stupid as his base." He always sounded like he was running for Junior High President, even though he didn't read as much as most junior high presidents do. Hawley is not stupid - Stanford University and Yale Law.
He's going to have a tough time getting into the Biker Bar pulling up in his Mercedes wearing his Brooks Brothers suit.

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
20. Love the spirit and smarts of AOC
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

AOC has time to grow in her political career and her start is strong.

BTW What name does she go by casually and with friends and family; Alexandria?, certainly not AOC, what?

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
27. We hear and see more of those who claim they have been silenced
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:51 PM
Jan 2021

than those who haven't. That is a great toon.

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
32. I have read the 1st amendment very carefully several times,
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

and I can assure everyone that it says nothing about book deals.

calimary

(81,192 posts)
36. Josh Hawley shames every Missouri voter.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jan 2021

I still have connections there. Very sad to see. And I’m stuck with the sour old fallback: What does that say about the VOTERS in Missouri who somehow saw fit to install a weasel like him and turn out somebody worthy like Claire McCaskill.

Mr.Bill

(24,263 posts)
44. When I hear people insulting red states as an entity,
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jan 2021

I tell them if a state is 60/40 conservative and progressive, we call it a solid red state. We say republicans win by landslides there. But 60/40 means if you are a progressive sitting at a table of ten, you still have three progressives to talk to.

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
54. And if you think of it that way...
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jan 2021

you just have to have engaging enough conversation to bring one other person to your side of the table. At that point it's no longer a red table/state.





K&R

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
39. Back in the day, Rushbaugh pushed the idea
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:23 PM
Jan 2021

that not only did everyone have a right to their own opinion (true), but that all opinions were equally valid (preposterously false). That elevation of ignorance was how Limbaugh gathered dittoheads into his cult.

Eventually, it festered into the utter nonsense AOC points to; cons don't just want equal acceptance for spouting "edgy" garbage and psychotic conspiracy theories, they demand a cookie and a parade in their honor every time they fart through their mouths.

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
45. Trumpers seem to think there should be no consequences for their words.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jan 2021

The 1st Amendment says Congress can't pass a law preventing you from saying it, but that doesn't mean you won't face consequences for what you said.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
50. 💜💜💜💜💜
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

I don't understand how anyone besides a RWer (or a misogynist) doesn't love AOC. She's brilliant.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
57. YES! This is perfect
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:46 AM
Jan 2021

and she's the person for this role.

She's smart and makes sure their crap doesn't go unchallenged.

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
58. She is damn smart!
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jan 2021

But so is Elizabeth Warren. I hope Warren will play a prominent role in the Biden administration. I know they need to retain her Senate seat but she could be doing a world of good in so many senior roles. She doesn't have the same edge that AOC does, but she's just every bit as sharp (and more experienced).

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
59. Elizabeth Warren was my first choice last year
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jan 2021

I caucused for her and was a precinct captain for her. (Harris was my second choice)

She is outspoken in a different way, she's always calm and competent, which is another role that needs to be filled.

WE need them both and we're lucky to have them!

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
60. I was on board with Mayor Pete
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

He's getting more seasoning now and will be a greater force come 2024. Warren was my second choice, however. The Dems are lucky to have a wealth of incredibly intelligent and principled individuals among their ranks, unlike that other party, which I won't bother to name.



WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
61. Hawley probably doesn't understand what she said to him, because...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jan 2021

Hawley does not understand or relate to normal average Americans that have had to actually work to survive. Hawley probably thinks all Americans have a country club mentality and have always had a Fund to tap into or a benefactor paying them lots of money for favors.

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