Mike Pence is 'homeless' and bouncing between couches of Indiana politicians: report

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Matthew Chapman
January 26, 2021

On Tuesday, Business Insider reported that former Vice President Mike Pence and his wife Karen do not have a permanent residence since leaving the vice president's mansion — and though Republicans close to the couple aren't exactly sure of their current living arrangements, they believe the former second couple is "couch-surfing" at the residences of various Indiana officials.

"According to one source, the Pences are staying at the dolled-up cabin nearby that the Indiana governor uses as a retreat. If so, they'd need permission to spend the night from Pence's former lieutenant governor, who now serves as governor, Eric Holcomb," reported Tom LoBianco. "Two Republicans close to the Pences said they heard that the former second couple was staying at Pence's brother's place in Columbus. The one thing everyone is certain of is that when the Pences moved out of the vice president's residence at the US Naval Observatory in Washington, they had nowhere to go. The former second couple doesn't actually own a house."

Per the report, the Pences are in a precarious position since leaving office.

"Republicans who spoke with Insider also said they wondered whether Pence and his team are closely guarding their new domicile because of the wave of death threats he faced just three weeks ago," said the report. "The Trump-incited mob that stormed the Capitol earlier this month shouted that they wanted to hang Pence, and some of the people came within about 100 feet of confronting him and his family as they were hurried to a secure location in the Capitol."

Furthermore, the report noted, Pence has essentially been cut off from all contact with former President Donald Trump, who was enraged by his refusal to try to overturn the election results during congressional certification. Pence, for his part, is reportedly resentful that Trump put his life in danger.

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-homeless-couch-surfing/

Business Insider article (paywall):

https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-home-residence-after-vice-president-indiana-2021-1

[Arne]

1. So he won't be allowed into the new Patriot Party?

[JDC]

2. Rent and look for a house. What's so hard?

Im surprised that the Koch's didn't have a place already set up for them.

[pnwmom]

58. Death threats would be hard. He's probably getting them. n/t

[JDC]

61. Hmm. Grim and probably perfectly true.

[Hortensis]

81. :) One would have thought they'd have rented before the 20th. nt

[lame54]

84. Not every place allows pet flies

[Rorey]

3. I despise Pence

But I hope he finds a safe place to live.

[TexasTowelie]

8. A couple of weeks at a homeless shelter might change his perspective

on many issues.

[rurallib]

14. Boy, you ain't kidding!

[orangecrush]

40. That's the fact, Jack

[TexasTowelie]

46. Having been in one for a brief period, I'll say that it can be tolerated if you know that you will

be out soon. It's when things are uncertain about ever leaving the shelter that makes it truly depressing.

[orangecrush]

62. True

[PatrickforO]

55. Or better yet, one of the border detention facilities. You know, the private for-profit ones

that housed children taken from their parents' arms in chain link cages in cold buildings with no toiletries and aluminum blankets.

Think?

[TexasTowelie]

63. I was trying to keep the Pences confined to Indiana.

The rest of the country doesn't want him.

[catbyte]

11. Yeah, I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

Imagine, being a self-described "man of God" yet becoming the slavish yes man to the most amoral, corrupt, and treasonous president in US history for 4 long years only to be betrayed at the end and find that not only is your political career likely over but your very life is in danger from the cult that very same dictator wannabe unleashed on you. Yeow.

What colossal miscalculation. But you reap what you sow, buddy.

[Rebl2]

36. I don't

feel sorry for him. He was such a religious man supposedly and to even consider being trumps vice-president I will never understand. He knew what trump was like and yet he said yes to trashy, corrupt trump. He also apparently was so sure they would get a second term, he made no plans on where he was going to live if they didn’t win. What a fool.

[PJMcK]

39. You're a better person than I

Pence spent 4 years supporting the most corrupt president in U.S. history.

Pence spent 4 years as Indiana's governor and prepared for his role as Pandemic Czar by presiding over a massive epidemic of AIDS in his state.

Fuck him.

[Rorey]

41. He's going to be looking over his shoulder for a long time

I don't feel sorry for him that he'll have to do that. No place will ever feel safe.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

66. "Mother, is that car following us?....." nt

[Bucky]

89. If he turns state evidence, the FBI can put him in a Whiteness Protection Program

Stick him and the missus in a San Diego suburb. They'd blend right in.

[TexasTowelie]

4. Motel 6 - We'll leave the light on for you. nt

[nolabear]

7. What? No room at the Trump Inn?

[TexasTowelie]

10. Well, we are talking about Indiana.

I hope that you are feeling better, it sounded like you had a rough time for awhile.

[nolabear]

27. Thanks! I'm pretty good. Better every day.

Scary af but nothing that will last. Worst thing is I can no longer take NSAIDS with the blood thinner. My joints do not like this.

Like the lady said, old age ain’t for sissies.

[Blue Owl]

5. This could put a strain on him and mother's already odd relationship

[BGBD]

6. Get a hotel room

I'm sure you can find a house you want to buy. It's not like he's eating ramen while his band gets a gig.

[Montauk6]

9. Mother prefers the top bunk

[progressoid]

32. I think Mother is sleeping in a different room.

Have seen stories of how unhappy she was with everything that's happened in the last 5 years.

[LakeArenal]

12. To think... VP. Yikes. Can't even plan ahead.

[gratuitous]

34. Yeah, I'm baffled

Did he think that just because Trump lost, it didn't mean he lost, too? I know that Pence stepped in during the post election pre inauguration interim because Trump totally abandoned the country, but did it occur to him that on January 20 he wasn't going to be able to live at the Naval Observatory anymore?

[hay rick]

37. He did a better job running the coronavirus task force.

OK, just about the same.

[Dem2theMax]

48. That got a snicker out of me.

[Solomon]

71. Me too.

[MontanaMama]

45. Pence strikes me as someone

who can’t find his ass with both hands. Somehow this doesn’t surprise me...it does surprise me that Mother can’t help him out.

[panader0]

13. Mike and Mommy find themselves in the middle of a Greek play.

"Mother, I want to ........" (Daddy's dead)

[rurallib]

15. Did Trump not pay him for playing VP for 4 years

Did Ivanka get the paychecks?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. I agree with a few speculations about

them keeping their whereabouts "unknown" until stuff blows over. That means they'll probably be "on the run" until the Impeachment trial is over and then perhaps for a bit more time after, when people eventually forget about the two of them (like they usually forget about former VPs unless they are named "Biden" ).

[yankeepants]

17. I totally get it. I too, get resentful when someone puts my life in danger. WTF?

[kysrsoze]

18. Ha! I thought this was going to be an Onion article. Cheap bastard - get a hotel room.

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. "Pence has essentially been cut off from all contact with former President Donald Trump"

And that is the good news.

[Irish_Dem]

20. There's always a victim relocation program.

He and mother can change their names and appearance. And live in small town Idaho.

[magicarpet]

25. Incognito Pence couple....

[Irish_Dem]

26. Perfect. Or Hillbilly bumpkins.

[jmowreader]

29. Small town Idaho - NOT a good idea!

Even if they decided to get plastic surgery, grow their hair out and start wearing a lot of makeup, people would figure out who they are in short order...and, with the Trump-crush people have out here, they'd get shot.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Good points, you cannot hide in a small town. OK they go to a big city.

They would stick out there too. They are such bumpkins.

To think Pence had his adoring puppy dog routine for Trump to no avail.
Now he is a man on the lam.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

64. Wonder how they'd do in, say, the Bronx?

[Irish_Dem]

65. That would be a sitcom. The hicks from the sticks in the bronx.

Ok, they cannot hide in a small town.
Cannot hide in the city.

How about the suburbs somewhere?

No wonder they are couch surfing.

[JHB]

72. Bolivia

[Irish_Dem]

82. Trump tying to kill them will be the least of their problems.

[Indykatie]

21. This Headline is Pure Click Bait - Pence Has 2 Brothers in Indiana One of Whom Is a Congressman

That may be who he is staying with but the headline makes it seem like it's some random Indiana politician. Pence doesn't have many friends in Indiana and it's hard for me to believe anyone would take him in but a relative.

[Irish_Dem]

68. Trump and his flying monkeys are trying to kill him, who would want to take him in?

Poor Pence. I almost might could feel sorry for him.

[dutch777]

22. Mmm mmm! Green bean hot dish everynight for dinner!

I am surprised anyone will let him in. Sounds like he had a three day kegger at the Naval Observatory and trashed it so that the Harris family couldn't move in.

I am pretty sure he had a month's free stay at the Trump International with hooker coupons from Donnie boy if he went rogue in the electoral college certification on 1/6 but he blew that. It's hard when you don't have a spine-- can't ever stand up to your insane boss for the good of the nation during a pandemic and, lucky for us, also don't have it to trash the Constitution. Good riddance and hope all the spare beds and couches in Indiana are lumpy and have bed bugs.

[Ilsa]

23. Can't they move in with one of their grown kids?

They should probably pick the kid they like the least.

[Captain Zero]

67. they have some daughters

nt

[Ilsa]

79. I can imagine the daughter they move in with

having to explain to her kids the horror of why Grandpa and Grandma are on the lam. (Members of their own political party trying to murder them.)

I guess they don't own a home? Or do thet just need to stay away from places, like their home, where they would be easily found?

[ecstatic]

24. During Covid? How selfish can they get?

Take your rich entitled asses to a trump hotel or something. trump needs the money. Oh, and enjoy the bedbugs.

[Hotler]

28. Pull on those bootstraps....... Pray harder..... stop mooching off of others.

You should have been prepared.

[smirkymonkey]

30. I honestly thought this was going to be an Onion article.

Too funny!

Seriously though, of all the assholes in the republican party, there are a lot of people I can think of whom I would wish much worse on than Mike Pence.

[Initech]

33. This would make a great "how it started / how's it going" meme!

[flibbitygiblets]

60. lol, true

I have zero sympathy. He could have spoken out any anytime, including now. But nope, just hiding from the domestic terrorists and feeling "resentful". SMDH.

[Mercurian]

35. Clarence Thomas probably isn't using his RV..

[catbyte]

69. Heck, Ginny is a fanatical MAGAt. She'd have the pitchforks & tiki torches out in no time.

[OneBlueSky]

38. Like him or hate him, you have to agree that he got royally screwed . . .

by Trump . . . I'm no fan, but credit where credit is due . . . he didn't even come close to overturning the election as Trump had suggested/instructed . . . doesn't offset four years of being a Trump toady, but it does show that at least he's capable of thinking for himself and standing up to intense pressure from POTUS . . . all while knowing that he could be thrown under the closest bus (which he was) . . . just a thought . . .

[lastlib]

53. To borrow a famous phrase--"I really don't care, do u?"

Where was this special ability to "think for himself" when kids were being torn away from their parents?? Or when a foreign ally was being extorted, with the use of US government aid, into interfering in an American election?? I could go on, but you get the idea.

I'd be ecstatic if he found himself living under a bridge. Or better yet, in a prison cell. No pity.

[orangecrush]

42. It's an eye opener

When your boss sends a mob of lunatics to hang you.

[eallen]

43. That is something for which I will NOT criticize him

There's nothing wrong with couch surfing.

[BobTheSubgenius]

44. I wonder if they take turns on the couch?

Perhaps he gives the couch to her and sleeps on the floor at Mother's feet.

[KentuckyWoman]

47. I honestly feel for him.

He did the right thing on one day of his life and he's paying the toll of throwing in with the crazees in the first place.

Hell of a wake up call. I hope he can stay safe and learn some hard lessons.

[mrs_p]

49. Were they really that delusional

They didn’t plan for when democracy would prevail? How completely absurd.

[Irish_Dem]

85. I know, I cannot make sense of this. They knew they would be leaving WashDC

on Jan 20th. It was not a surprise date.

It is all absurd as you say Mrs P.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

50. Maybe Trump will put him up at Mar-A-Lago.

With so many members bailing out -- $200,000 is a lot to pay to listen to some old guy whine about how he used to be someone important before they stole it from him -- there's got to be a lot of rooms to choose from.

[Ligyron]

51. Time to turn state evidence on Dump.

Starting but not limited to his Impeachment trial.

[Skittles]

52. the only time I ever remember Pence doing the right thing

was going to the inauguration

other that that, he can fuck himself no matter where he "lives"

[thenelm1]

54. So he truly believed the BS post election?

I mean, given two months post-election, how do you not arrange other living accommodations? Did he truly believe his lord & savior had the whole thing in the bag? Or is he just as dumb as everyone said he was? What the hey?

[Jon King]

56. Mr. Irrelevant

Both sides hate him. Zero future for that guy.

[OMGWTF]

57. Homeless and jobless. Womp womp.

[littlemissmartypants]

59. Here's a phrase...

Poor planning on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

They should have had a plan. They're even stupider than I first thought for not thinking this through. I couldn't care less what happens to them. They and their ilk need to disappear into the woodwork like the useless rodents and roaches they have proven to be.

Thank you, next.

[Mc Mike]

70. Hopefully, the authorities will move that drifter on, over the county line.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

73. I thought I saw that commercial with the sad Sarah Maclachlan music...

...asking us to support our homeless former Vice Presidents.

[CentralMass]

74. I had an attitude about this until I googled to see if my notion on Pences finances were correct.

They were not.
The article from forbes would seem to indicate that he planned or was able to save for retirement about a poorly as a typically working dunce like myself. I find myself almost taking pity on him.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2019/07/18/how-mike-pence-became-a-millionaire-from-government-pensions/

He has about a million in assets that are due to mainly the combined pensions of $35k/year from serving as Governor of Indiana and $50k/year total from his time in congress and VP. So $85k pension in retirement isn't chump change but it's not big $$ either. The Pences also have some significant parent plus student loans of between $100k and $245k that they took out for the 3 kids. I have some for my 3 as well.

So it looks like Pence is probably not your typical crooked republican and he and the wife seem like decent parents.

Then again he probably stands a chance of getting a book deal or two and will probably have employment opportunties in right radio etc..

[DeminPennswoods]

75. They never owned a house in Indiana

or in the Washington metro area? Ok, I'm not up on all things Mike Pence, but not to even have own a home in Indiana? That seems very odd.

[CentralMass]

76. I posted alink from Forbes on their finances upstream. They sold their house prior to taking office.

[iscooterliberally]

77. So they put the same planning into their post office housing as they did with the pandemic response?

I guess it's par for the course. Pence has all the wit, charm and intelligence of an empty jar of mayonnaise. Don't former VP's get secret service protection if they need it? They should buy a Winnebago, but then again, they'll probably get stuck under a low bridge somewhere. I'm having a hard time trying to find any sympathy for this asshole.

[CTyankee]

78. Well, ya lie down with dogs, ya get up with fleas...

[Dem2theMax]

86. Flies. Not fleas.

Only in his case. Anybody else, it would be fleas.

[CTyankee]

87. well, this is what you get, buster!

what is it these guys don't get? Donald Trump is bad, corrupt to the bone. Pence is a fool for letting himself get sucked into this deal.

[Dem2theMax]

90. Sat here scratching my head when I read he doesn't have a home.

Who does that, when you have his kind of income?
That was the first thought that came to mind.

Pence is toxic. Who would want to have him anywhere near them? The stench of Trump will rub off on anyone who helps him.

Then add in the fact that there's a mob of idiots who were yelling for his death. I wouldn't feel safe having him anywhere near me.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

[chriscan64]

80. It sounds like poor planning, but worked out for their benefit.

With the mob wanting to hang him, best he not stay too long in any one place. "Mother we have to keep on the move, and gosh darnit I said no cell phones!"

[mercuryblues]

83. Why is he homeless?

He hasn't paid rent, a mortgage, light bill, cable, heat, water, home taxes, home repairs, or a phone bill in 8 years. That has all been provided to him by the government.

His salary for the past 4 years 230,700 (922,800.) His salary as Gov he earned 111.688. (446,752.)

If he can't buy himself a house with that salary, he can live in a tent.

[Bucky]

88. It's like he didn't know how to plan ahead for an unpleasant turn of events

People forget, but Pence started off as an on-air RW talkshow host. He's not been successful in business, just successful in chatter. He's the radio version, the cut-rate version, of a reality show star.

Surely the death threats would ebb after a while. Maybe the FBI can put him in a WPP. His face is forgettable enough.