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sagesnow

(2,861 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 10:23 AM Jan 2021

January 5 Meeting at Trump International Hotel Could Hold the Key to the January 6 Insurrection

January 5 Meeting at Trump International Hotel Could Hold the Key to the January 6 Insurrection
Seth Abramson

"Well after dark on January 5, 2021—just 15 hours before an insurrection against the United States government incited by the President of the United States—Nebraska Republican Charles W. Herbster, at the time the National Chairman of the Agriculture and Rural Advisory Committee for the Trump administration, attended a private meeting of Trump family members, Trump administration officials, Trump campaign advisers, January 6 organizers, and at least one member of the United States Senate at Trump International Hotel in Washington."
"In attendance at the large and only recently uncovered meeting, conducted “in the private residence of the President” at his hotel, were, according to Herbster’s account, the following individuals (Note: Donald Trump’s presence at the meeting, either in person or via speakerphone, as yet remains unclear, so his name is temporarily absent from this listing):

Donald Trump Jr., eldest son of the president

Eric Trump, second-eldest son of the president

Michael Flynn, former National Security Advisor to the president

Peter Navarro, Assistant to the President, Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, and National Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator

Corey Lewandowski, 2016 Trump campaign manager

David Bossie, 2016 Trump deputy campaign manager

Adam Piper, executive director of the Republican Attorneys General Association

Tommy Tuberville, United States senator from the State of Alabama

According to research by political strategist and regular CNN, MSNBC, The Hill, CBS, and Fox News contributor Cheri Jacobus, Txtwire CEO Daniel Beck claims he was at the January 5 meeting also, and that additional attendees at the gathering included the following three people:

Rudy Giuliani, personal attorney to the President of the United States

Kimberly Guilfoyle, girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr.

Michael Lindell, Trump donor and MyPillow CEO

"In a Facebook post, Beck claims that there were “fifteen of us [who] spent the evening [January 5]” at Trump International Hotel in DC, a statement that tracks with the nine attendees listed by Herbster, the additional three referenced by Beck himself, and a photograph Beck took on January 5 in which he appears outside the hotel with an unidentified woman and three unidentified men, two wearing red “Make America Great Again” caps:

Guilfoyle’s presence at the meeting is critical given that Stop the Steal coordinator Ali Alexander claims he received a call from Guilfoyle during the evening of January 5—when she would have been with Trump’s family and advisers at Trump International. As for Tuberville, he now claims, contrary to the statements of Herbster and Beck, that he was never at the Trump International Hotel on January 5."

https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/january-5-meeting-at-trump-international

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January 5 Meeting at Trump International Hotel Could Hold the Key to the January 6 Insurrection (Original Post) sagesnow Jan 2021 OP
This is big news sboatcar Jan 2021 #1
Very big. Lewandowski was civilian appointee at Pentagon, group that BLOCKED NG troops Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #14
He didn't send in the national guard til he knew it was a failure sboatcar Jan 2021 #16
The Plot Thickens... MineralMan Jan 2021 #2
i hope he's right, and has the receipts. mopinko Jan 2021 #3
Was Rudy G. talking code when he called Tommy T. exboyfil Jan 2021 #4
RG told TT they were going to capture Pelosi laptop and send it to blind computer repair guy, maybe? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #15
Kickin Wawannabe Jan 2021 #5
So casual dress shock troops were a ruse to hide command and control?? bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #6
It stank with organized conspiracy as events unfolded on 6th and after Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #19
Yeah well, somebody needs to shine a light on, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #7
Tuberville and others involved shouldn't be allowed to vote in impeachment trial unless they testify Tommymac Jan 2021 #8
👆 This. crickets Jan 2021 #24
And didn't Michael Flynn's brother give a stand down order to the D.C. National Guard? Botany Jan 2021 #9
Criminal conspirators. dchill Jan 2021 #10
Love me, some Seth RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #11
Track all the cell phones that were in the building. Delmette2.0 Jan 2021 #12
...And then "something wicked comes". Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #13
All the Ghouls were there! It must have been like the Mos Eisley Cantina from Star Wars liberal_mama Jan 2021 #17
This goes real deep... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #18
To the tune of about 70%, Americans are already shocked & dismayed by the violent attack, but Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #20
I can't wait to find out the true depths of their depravity! liberal_mama Jan 2021 #22
I don't think we will ever know the exact depth... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #23
This certainly is big news, but I really want to know more about what was said. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #21
Sometimes things have a way to leak out or get exposed. triron Jan 2021 #25
knr triron Jan 2021 #26
Everyone present will lie about whatever took place. spanone Jan 2021 #27
Well maybe there will be inconsistencies. triron Jan 2021 #28

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,288 posts)
14. Very big. Lewandowski was civilian appointee at Pentagon, group that BLOCKED NG troops
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

DC National Guard was hobbled by those civilian appointees / Chris Miller acting Secretary of Defense. The Guard would normally have been able to roll in response to a request, by the command of the commander.

But the tRump appointees explicitly took that authority away from him in the days just before the Insurrection.

Then they were slow to release the Guard. Multiple requests were ignored, until I think it was the Vice President who authorized them. But the party line is that tRump finally authorized them, in which case the question is why was he so slow? We know he was watching coverage.



sboatcar

(519 posts)
16. He didn't send in the national guard til he knew it was a failure
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jan 2021

Somehow he thought that his army of rednecks and QAnons would be successful in taking hostages or something, and once he realized he lost he tried to distance himself from it. They watched with glee as those folks streamed into the Capitol, any reasonable president would have immediately been on the horn sending in cavalry.

mopinko

(71,368 posts)
3. i hope he's right, and has the receipts.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 10:37 AM
Jan 2021

i like the guy. up til now he has only gathered other reporting. this seems to be his own work.
he is meticulous, that's for sure.

exboyfil

(17,914 posts)
4. Was Rudy G. talking code when he called Tommy T.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

about the additional information that was going to be available so long as the vote was delayed or is Tuberville that stupid? I mean the guy has already demonstrated he is one of the many stupid Republican Senators. The fact he was new to Washington also made him exploitable.

Have we ever got that earthshaking information from Rudy G. that would have justified challenging ten states? That seems like a really good question to ask him under oath.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,288 posts)
15. RG told TT they were going to capture Pelosi laptop and send it to blind computer repair guy, maybe?
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jan 2021

I don't wish to make too much joshing around a serious topic, though.

bucolic_frolic

(45,817 posts)
6. So casual dress shock troops were a ruse to hide command and control??
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

Big things don't happen without reason, there has rarely if at all been a spontaneous rabble to storm any institution in America, let along the U.S. Congress.

This whole thing begins to smack of an operation more than a protest gone wild.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,288 posts)
19. It stank with organized conspiracy as events unfolded on 6th and after
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jan 2021

We very quickly learned that the Guard had been blocked.

Bobert's tweet.

Organized tours.

Lots of warnings before the 6th coming from people scanning Hard Right chatter.

... and more.

gab13by13

(23,995 posts)
7. Yeah well, somebody needs to shine a light on,
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jan 2021

the cockroach Mercer family. They fund a lot of these people and always skate.

Tommymac

(7,304 posts)
8. Tuberville and others involved shouldn't be allowed to vote in impeachment trial unless they testify
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jan 2021

under oath that they were not involved in any way, no matter how small. If they lie, throw the book at them.

This is just crazy. Participants in the Insurrection are allowed to vote in a Trial to convict their Leader.

Pres Clinton was impeached for perjury, not sexual misconduct. Any lying Senators, Representatives or other government officials should face the same charges if they lie under oath.





crickets

(26,136 posts)
24. 👆 This.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jan 2021

Anyone under credible suspicion of being involved must testify. Co-conspirators and those proven to lie about their involvement or others' involvement have no business being allowed to vote. That would give them opportunity to clear themselves at the same time and it just won't work.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,826 posts)
11. Love me, some Seth
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jan 2021

let go, I hope we have the proof, put good old Tommy on the stand, I wanna see him fold like a house of cards

Delmette2.0

(4,248 posts)
12. Track all the cell phones that were in the building.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jan 2021

That should give us more information and accurate information.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
17. All the Ghouls were there! It must have been like the Mos Eisley Cantina from Star Wars
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:32 PM
Jan 2021

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." Obi-Wan

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,288 posts)
20. To the tune of about 70%, Americans are already shocked & dismayed by the violent attack, but
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jan 2021

... you are right, when more is uncovered, that percentage will only go higher.

The FBI seems to be particularly disgusted with the insurrectionists and is hunting them down vigorously. Starting with all the low level criminals. I think they will work it up chains of connections with grim determination.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,724 posts)
21. This certainly is big news, but I really want to know more about what was said.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021

I'm sure I'm not alone in that. LOL A well-placed "47%" cell phone, carelessly left in "Record" mode wouldn't have been unwelcome.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
25. Sometimes things have a way to leak out or get exposed.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jan 2021

Time will tell. Meanwhile seems the media should at least make mention of this.

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