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FM123

(10,054 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:30 PM Jan 2021

Explosive new book claims the KGB began grooming 'young and vain' Donald Trump 40 years ago

...by saving him from financial ruin and turned him into a Russian asset who gave Putin 'everything he wanted' as president.

(DailyMail) Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset more than 40 years ago which exploded into a decades-long 'relationship' of mutual benefit to both Russia and Trump, a shocking new book claims.

Trump was rescued multiple times from multiple bankruptcies by boatloads of Russian cash laundered through his real estate in the 80s and 90s, the author asserts. Russian money also picked up the tab for buildings franchised under Trump's name.

An invitation to Russia by a high-level KGB official in 1987 under the guise of a preliminary scouting trip to build a Trump hotel in Moscow, was in fact 'deep development' by KGB handlers that furthered creating secret back channels and allowed the Russians to influence and damage American democracy, the author claims.


When Trump became President, it was time to pay the piper and Trump gave Putin everything he wanted, the author writes. Author Craig Unger makes the revelations in his new book, American Kompromat, How the KGB Cultivated Donald Trump, and Related Tales of Sex, Greed, Power and Treachery. Unger is a journatist and author of six books, including the New York Times bestsellers House of Bush, House of Saud, and House of Trump, House of Putin.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9184687/How-Russia-began-grooming-Donald-Trump-40-years-ago-saving-financial-ruin-book-claims.html

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Explosive new book claims the KGB began grooming 'young and vain' Donald Trump 40 years ago (Original Post) FM123 Jan 2021 OP
Will we ever discover just what RUMP gave Russia bluestarone Jan 2021 #1
He gave them 'the belief in American Democracy'. Dan Jan 2021 #40
He ignored them and whatever mischief they were making secondwind Jan 2021 #47
He gave them the middle east DBoon Jan 2021 #59
So Craig Unger can figure this out, but DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #2
Mueller, who we all had so much faith in, was the wrong choice... brush Jan 2021 #6
Mueller was and is horrible. samsingh Jan 2021 #15
To be fair to Mueller, he was VERY limited on what he could look at and how far he pushed. WyattKansas Jan 2021 #31
Agreed, but surely Mueller could have found a way to get the message out "Follow the (whatever was)" Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #36
Mueller did say that "if there had NO COLLUSION he w oils have said so" secondwind Jan 2021 #48
Good point to remind us of. Thanks! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #50
Woodward details in his book DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #54
i think he could have said something like "we would have indicted if we were able to" samsingh Jan 2021 #42
I can only imagine the phone calls at night from Graham and others LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #46
I'll judge Mueller Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #63
Fair enough. I'd like to see the unredacted report too. brush Jan 2021 #64
Craig Unger stops just barely short of making this accusation in his first Mike 03 Jan 2021 #9
It is a lot easier to allege it in writing treestar Jan 2021 #25
Yes, but he was still commissioned to do an investigation DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #28
How did the treestar Jan 2021 #29
I think it's used because he is Robert Mueller III DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #34
Also would show just what Barr redacted, which would be clues to what tRump Gang hiding. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #38
Actually, there was nothing to figure out. colorado_ufo Jan 2021 #44
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #3
Thank you for posting this. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #14
That's what I read years ago, too -- that Trump was on their radar as soon as he married Ivana. highplainsdem Jan 2021 #37
I've read a number of Trump biographies. Trump's ties to Russia was discussed in them liberal_mama Jan 2021 #4
Well this looks like a fun read (ick) The Blue Flower Jan 2021 #5
Whatever happened to all the Epstein videos? dawg day Jan 2021 #8
Never heard anymore because of all the names on them. oldsoftie Jan 2021 #53
Good Gawd! Gak!!! pandr32 Jan 2021 #13
The Russians play the long game. Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #7
Republicans also play a long game I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #19
I could be wrong. But I seem to remember Criag Unger being pretty legit. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2021 #10
Thank you for the heads up. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #11
Lincolns Bible on twitter dclarston13 Jan 2021 #12
And our intelligence svcs have mentioned that rump was possibly a compromised Russian asset SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #16
Possibly? colorado_ufo Jan 2021 #49
3 words. Russia. Solar Winds. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #17
Duh Skraxx Jan 2021 #18
It has been obvious that Trump was a Russian asset given... DSandra Jan 2021 #20
Who are they grooming now? superpatriotman Jan 2021 #21
Hawley? colorado_ufo Jan 2021 #51
What other republicans are Russian assets? FuzzyRabbit Jan 2021 #22
The senators who vacationed in Moscow on Fourth of July, definitely Walleye Jan 2021 #24
exactly... dhill926 Jan 2021 #45
Moscow Marsha Blackburn Tanuki Jan 2021 #30
As I suspected. moondust Jan 2021 #23
This should have been obvious. n/t AntiFascist Jan 2021 #26
Putting money into Trump was the best investment Putin ever made. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #27
Not very smart of the Russians to do that. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #32
This comment is very offensive Cassielfsw Jan 2021 #70
My sincere apologies Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #71
So how on God's good Earth did the idiot get vetted? Firestorm49 Jan 2021 #33
American public vetted Trump as President. LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #43
Its speculation however what might prove this is true is if Trump fails to sue the author. cstanleytech Jan 2021 #35
Craig Unger's writing can be hard enough to trust without quoting it ... TomVilmer Jan 2021 #39
But Eric admitted they get money from Russia. TNNurse Jan 2021 #41
So where was all this info in Congress the past 4 yrs? oldsoftie Jan 2021 #52
Not unusual for governments to establish links in foreign countries. Aussie105 Jan 2021 #55
Very Interesting! burrowowl Jan 2021 #56
American Kompromat is the title of the book - by Craig Unger FakeNoose Jan 2021 #57
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #58
I read that book in 2018 when Malcolm Nance published it Sedona Jan 2021 #60
Trump is like Fredo from The Godfather alphafemale Jan 2021 #61
wow !!!!!!! HAS ANYONE HERE ordered or read the book yet? trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #62
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jan 2021 #65
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #66
If ttrue, it would represent a massive failure of our intelligence agencies under both parties onenote Jan 2021 #67
Yeah NJCher Jan 2021 #68
K & R Dirty Socialist Jan 2021 #69

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. So Craig Unger can figure this out, but
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

Robert "Bobby 3-Sticks" Mueller and his crack team of lawyers and investigators couldn't?

President Biden's AG should release the Mueller Report, unredacted to the fullest extent possible, so we can really understand what Mueller found and what he investigated (and did NOT investigate).

brush

(53,928 posts)
6. Mueller, who we all had so much faith in, was the wrong choice...
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2021, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)

to head the trump/Russia probe as we came to find out, unfortunately, that he was past his prime.

And then of course Barr came on the scene and shut the investigation down before it was completed. He saved the Russian asset from being revealed.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
31. To be fair to Mueller, he was VERY limited on what he could look at and how far he pushed.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jan 2021

Otherwise the Petulant Crybaby would throw a tantrum and fire him and his team. And the Petulant Crybaby had his 'Yes Men' controlling the funding and Mueller's investigation, regardless of how much they played their part for the public. If you want to blame someone, first look at who was in charge of Mueller in the Republican's warped view of an independent investigator that resembled the opposite of what Kenneth Starr was allowed to sniff with a hard-on.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,054 posts)
36. Agreed, but surely Mueller could have found a way to get the message out "Follow the (whatever was)"
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

Surely Mueller must know there is bigger stuff yet to be revealed, even if he only got a glimpse.

DeminPennswoods

(15,292 posts)
54. Woodward details in his book
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jan 2021

how narrowly Mueller's investigation was defined and that Rosenstein managed it much more closely than almost everyone knew.

samsingh

(17,602 posts)
42. i think he could have said something like "we would have indicted if we were able to"
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jan 2021

i don't believe he could be stopped from that statement

i think Mueller was a plant from the beginning and that's the reason trump did not force his firing

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
46. I can only imagine the phone calls at night from Graham and others
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

berating and threatening him. Graham had no problem calling the Georgia governor and requesting he throw out votes, so I'm sure he and others were relentlessly pestering Mueller all the time during the investigation. "You'd better not........or else......."

Still Mueller could have resisted if he chose to. Even if it meant being ostracized by his own lifelong party. IMO he was cowing to his party over country. And easily capitulated. Which included remaining silent as much as possible about it to the media.

brush

(53,928 posts)
64. Fair enough. I'd like to see the unredacted report too.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 08:53 PM
Jan 2021

But IMO he should've indicted trump. There's nothing in the Constitution against that. It's just a kind of gentleman's agreement that has prevailed over the years. But if such an agreement endanger the nation, it must be disregarded out of loyalty to the country.

After all, what were they going to do to Mueller, fire him, or put him in jail? No. And he was retired. He didn't need to worry about keeping his job.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. Craig Unger stops just barely short of making this accusation in his first
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jan 2021

book on Trump, House of Trump, House of Putin. He felt at the time he wrote it that he couldn't prove the case. Despite that, it is quite an important book. (It's just hard to keep all the Russian names straight. )

He has done a lot of serious work on this subject, earlier than other journalists. The only reason I stopped recommending the book is because it sort of got lost in the avalanche of Trump books that followed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. It is a lot easier to allege it in writing
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jan 2021

than to prove it in court. In any event, Mueller thought the sitting President could not be indicted.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
28. Yes, but he was still commissioned to do an investigation
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jan 2021

If true, I would think a 4 decade old relationship between Trump and Russia might be slightly relevant to what "Bobby 3-Sticks" was investigating regarding Russian interference. An investigation does not automatically lead to an indictment.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
34. I think it's used because he is Robert Mueller III
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jan 2021

...and apparently the three-fingered Boy Scouts' salute: https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-thingsmueller-0325-story.html

As with many of us, I was deeply disappointed Mueller, his team, and his findings. I compare him and them to the Watergate Special Prosecution Task Force and its great leaders Archibald Cox and Leon Jaworski and their staff (many of whom became very prominent lawyers in their own right). There is NO comparison.

Apparently, Mueller and his team were afraid of being fired (which actually happened to Archibald Cox), so they limited their investigation to avoid that. That is not smart....that's chicken.

I cannot stand hearing Mueller's top staff now telling us about how bad Trump is/was (e.g., Andrew Weissman). There was a time and place for this, and that was during the investigation.

When I use Bobby Three Sticks, I'm sorry to say it's derisively. I simply cannot believe he let himself be played by Trump. That's why I am hoping that the release of the Mueller Report unredacted to the maximum extent possible might shed some light on what Mueller and his team really found. I don't think we know that. However, Mueller had plenty of opportunities to set the record straight, if it needed straightening, and the most prominent was his July 2019 testimony before Congress. He was basically incoherent, which again played into Trump and Barr's hands. Indeed, the very next day, Trump was emboldened enough to make his calls to Ukraine to find dirt on Joe Biden, an act which directly led to Trump's impeachment.

colorado_ufo

(5,739 posts)
44. Actually, there was nothing to figure out.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

It was pretty much all in plain sight, including the real estate deals with Russians who vastly overpaid for the properties. All of it, the money laundering, the business failures, the corruption, the secret then revealed meetings with Russian assets, the unusual number of Russians occupying his properties, the beauty contest in Moscow, Trump's absolute failure to confront Putin about anything either during the campaign or the presidency, his obsequience to Putin, the invites of Russian notables to the Oval Office and ban of the US press at the meeting, and on and on. Jared's attempt to establish a back channel from the Russian Embassy to the Kremlin. Can you even begin to imagine what we DON'T know?

dalton99a

(81,656 posts)
3. Kick
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jan 2021
Surveillance of Trump began even earlier in 1977 when he married Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech national from a district where the secret police force was in league with the KGB and Trump was already talking about wanting to be president one day.

Trump probably also appealed to the KGB because he was 'vain, narcissistic, highly susceptible to flattery and greedy'.

'With Trump it wasn't just weakness. Everything was excessive. His vanity, excessive, Narcissism, excessive. Greed, excessive. Ignorance, excessive', writes the author.

'Deeply insecure intellectually, highly suggestible, exceedingly susceptible to flattery, Trump was anxious to acquire some real intellectual validation - and the KGB would be more than happy to humor him,' the author added.



The author claims surveillance on Trump began in 1977 when he married Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech national from a district where the secret police force was in league with the KGB and Trump was already talking about wanting to be president one day (pictured in Russia)


In 1987 Donald and Ivana Trump visited Palace Square in St.Petersburg, Russia. The author says the invitation to Russia by a high-level KGB official in 1987 under the guise of a preliminary scouting trip to build a Trump hotel in Moscow, was in fact 'deep development' by KGB handlers that furthered creating secret back channels and allowed the Russians to influence and damage American democracy

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
4. I've read a number of Trump biographies. Trump's ties to Russia was discussed in them
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

and this was long before he ran for president.

The Blue Flower

(5,447 posts)
5. Well this looks like a fun read (ick)
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

"Epstein had made videotapes of sexual acts that he could use for blackmail or kompromat – compromising material - and photos of Trump with a bevy of young girls and girls giggling at the semen stains on Trump's pants when in the company of the under eighteen-year olds and he couldn't hold back his 'excitement'."

That said, Craig Unger is a credible researcher.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
8. Whatever happened to all the Epstein videos?
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

I remember it was claimed the FBI and police had found a cache of tapes when they raided his mansion. Never heard any more.

pandr32

(11,635 posts)
13. Good Gawd! Gak!!!
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

I immediately went (mentally) to the image of him biting his lower lip (his excited rat face) while with Jeffrey Epstein at a party surrounded by young women/girls.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
19. Republicans also play a long game
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jan 2021

For decades they've been systematically destroying our government,making it smaller..and smaller to drown it in a bathtub.

dclarston13

(414 posts)
12. Lincolns Bible on twitter
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

Has laid all this out sometime ago. As have some others. I think for the most part intelligence agencies don't care, or he is a double agent. I doubt the latter.

SWBTATTReg

(22,187 posts)
16. And our intelligence svcs have mentioned that rump was possibly a compromised Russian asset
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:06 PM
Jan 2021

yet the traitorous republicans all still are in lockstep w/ rump still. Time to do some major house cleaning. Permanent and serious house cleaning.

DSandra

(999 posts)
20. It has been obvious that Trump was a Russian asset given...
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jan 2021

Not only how he went out of his way to deflect criticism of Russia, or his coziness with the Russians, but how on just about every major decision domestically, he did the Opposite of what your supposed to do, in a way that would further weaken America, from screwing NATO and the reversal of the TPP to the coronavirus and the sedition campaign and attempted insurrection.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,970 posts)
22. What other republicans are Russian assets?
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jan 2021

Moscow Mitch? Rand Paul? Most of the republican senate?

I find it hard to believe that Trump is the only one. I am sure that the Russians have other assets in place already, and more in the works.

moondust

(20,017 posts)
23. As I suspected.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:49 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

The KGB saw Dump as a potential asset and may have used its espionage tools to track him. Old KGB man Putin probably had access to the kompromat they collected. The kleptocrats knew Dump had no morals or loyalty to anything but himself so they could easily manipulate him to launder rubles or otherwise do their bidding. I wouldn't rule out him compromising U.S. intelligence during those secret meetings with Putin. The seeds of SolarWinds?

Where are Epstein's "videotapes of sexual acts that he could use for blackmail or kompromat"?

K/R

Mr.Bill

(24,344 posts)
32. Not very smart of the Russians to do that.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:06 PM
Jan 2021

They should have cultivated someone who didn't have the intelligence of a six year old child.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
33. So how on God's good Earth did the idiot get vetted?
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jan 2021

Intel knows much more than we do, so what went wrong? After all, we here at DU were fully aware of his failings just from press releases and things like the “pussy” video.

I think we have much more faith in our system than we should. Be thankful that the brown shirts aren’t already rounding us up. It was that close.

What a bunch of...........!

LiberalArkie

(15,731 posts)
43. American public vetted Trump as President.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:49 PM
Jan 2021

I believe Trumps days are over. Is Cotton or one of the new guys the new one?

cstanleytech

(26,340 posts)
35. Its speculation however what might prove this is true is if Trump fails to sue the author.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

After all if Trump does sue Trump can be forced to give a deposition under oath and that is the last thing a guilty person would probably want.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
39. Craig Unger's writing can be hard enough to trust without quoting it ...
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jan 2021

... from the really unreliable "Daily Mail". Anyway, here is a link to a chapter from his new book in "Vanity Fair":
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jeffrey-epstein-and-donald-trump-epic-bromance

Aussie105

(5,463 posts)
55. Not unusual for governments to establish links in foreign countries.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jan 2021

Russia saw Trump as a potentially useful idiot way early.

But he wouldn't be the only one Russia developed hooks into, playing the long game.

Not just Russia though, look closer to home and think of all the US 'influencing' in South America and the Middle East over the last century or so.
Some of it quite blatant and out in the open, other 'influencing' more subtle.

Some of it involved armed conflict, US boots on foreign soil.

Vietnam war for instance, conflict based on the 'Domino theory' of Communism creeping across Southern Asia and further South. Something that prompted Australian involvement in that war.

Probably no world power NOT doing any of that.

. . . . but we like to pretend it's only 'the bad guys' who do it, OUR country is as pure as the driven snow, right?





FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
57. American Kompromat is the title of the book - by Craig Unger
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jan 2021


Full title is American Kompromat: How the KGB Cultivated Donald Trump, and Related Tales of Sex, Greed, Power, and Treachery

I've read other books by Mr. Unger that were quite well-researched.




 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
61. Trump is like Fredo from The Godfather
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jan 2021

Incredibly stupid.
Incredibly narcissistic.

And willing to sell out his family (country) for flattery and a few hookers.

onenote

(42,796 posts)
67. If ttrue, it would represent a massive failure of our intelligence agencies under both parties
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:30 AM
Jan 2021

Personally, I'm not sure I buy it.

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