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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 12:22 PM Jan 2021

'Stabbed with a metal fence stake': Here are 7 disturbing details about the

attack we're now learning

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Written by Cody Fenwick January 28, 2021

Despite the widespread coverage of and attention to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by pro-Trump insurrectionists, law enforcement agencies been largely reticent to provide direct briefings to the press and updates for the public about what happened.

But on Wednesday, a statement from the Capitol Police Union, the officers on the front lines of the siege, shared new details and assessments of the attack that weren't previously known. It added new information in response to the closed-door testimony of Yogananda Pittman on Tuesday, the acting head of the U.S. Capitol Police, whose remarks were reported by multiple outlets.

In the days since the attack, much of the information and videos that have come out revealed the events were much darker, more violent, and more organized than many initially believed. Because many of the people who stormed the Capitol wore ridiculous costumes or acted in absurd ways, some news viewers were led to believe the invasion was a largely farcical stunt. But in reality, the insurrection was a deadly serious expression of violent and menacing forces within American politics.

https://www.alternet.org/2021/01/capitol-2650159453/

You know some of these officers need to testify in the senate trial............

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'Stabbed with a metal fence stake': Here are 7 disturbing details about the (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2021 OP
Yes, definitely have them testify.. ananda Jan 2021 #1
This is why Senate Republicans don't want an actual trial gratuitous Jan 2021 #2
Showing evidence is critical Midnightwalk Jan 2021 #4
But how many are leaving because the GOP didn't support Trump as much as they think tblue37 Jan 2021 #7
Another reason to go after Midnightwalk Jan 2021 #11
horrible bdamomma Jan 2021 #8
Nearly 140 officers were injured Lasher Jan 2021 #3
Their 'leaders' were literally willing to sacrifice them. It's horrific. crickets Jan 2021 #15
Congressional Democrats want a brief Senate trial. Lasher Jan 2021 #16
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2021 #5
K&R spanone Jan 2021 #6
No deals , let the evidence be presented RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #9
Yes, testimony from officers directly involved will be powerful. Baked Potato Jan 2021 #10
Horrific. Media needs to mention this every hour or two. MerryBlooms Jan 2021 #12
K & R Duppers Jan 2021 #13
K&R ck4829 Jan 2021 #14

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. This is why Senate Republicans don't want an actual trial
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 12:37 PM
Jan 2021

They very tidily swept the First Annual Trump Impeachment Trial under the rug last year, not receiving any evidence or testimony about the articles of impeachment sent over from the House. It was such a rousing success that Senate Republicans want to do it the same way this year. Without evidence, without testimony, it's super easy to just squawk "Partisan witch hunt" and go back to soliciting donations for their next campaign.

But you start hearing testimony, start reviewing evidence, run the clip of Trump exhorting his armed and violent mob to storm the Capitol Building and all the nasty sequelae, and it becomes a little tougher to hand wave away the whole messy business. Why, some of their own constituents might pose impertinent questions about why their Senator didn't vote to convict Trump in the face of all this "beyond a reasonable doubt" evidence?

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
4. Showing evidence is critical
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jan 2021

People need a reminder of how deadly serious the assault was, how wide the insurrection plot was and how much white supremacists are imbedded in the Republican party, law enforcement and the military.

I want Trump banned from office too, but the problem is there regardless of trump and we need to continue to root out the insurrectionists and the white supremacists.

There are posts about how 10s of thousands of people are leaving the Republican party. That’s encouraging, but 74 million people votes for trump. It’s a drop in the bucket. Continued prosecution and exposure is needed to root out tthis evil.

tblue37

(65,319 posts)
7. But how many are leaving because the GOP didn't support Trump as much as they think
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jan 2021

Republicans should?

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
11. Another reason to go after
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jan 2021

Pushing back against white supremacy and fascism are the keys.

Whether they remain in the GOP or form a new party they are a huge danger. Splitting the GOP makes it harder for them to get a majority but populist movements can grow quickly and in unexpected ways. A split doesn’t make us safe.

Just adding more thoughts/opinions.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
8. horrible
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jan 2021

the American people have seen the violence and heard the Terrorists and the Repigs continue to block their ears and just say move along, not this time we have seen the evidence and much more will be coming out.

Lasher

(27,567 posts)
3. Nearly 140 officers were injured
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

Some of the surviving officers are stilling coping with severe injuries

"I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs," said Union Chairman Gus Papathanasiou. "One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake."

crickets

(25,962 posts)
15. Their 'leaders' were literally willing to sacrifice them. It's horrific.
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

Hearings and more hearings, hours of testimony televised and with many videos showing what really happened, are absolutely required. There is no question of just 'moving on.' It's now glaringly obvious that there was an attempted overthrow of our elected government, and that involvement went deeply into that government itself, and that those tasked with protecting members of Congress were also deliberately compromised.

This goes so far beyond, 'well it looks like we had a riot and didn't handle it very well, oopsie.'

Those who are directly responsible through their choices and actions as well as those responsible through deliberate inaction need to be exposed and brought to account. So many layers of what happened absolutely need to be peeled back one by one, examined, and dealt with, or we will not be able to maintain a functioning republic.

Lasher

(27,567 posts)
16. Congressional Democrats want a brief Senate trial.
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jan 2021

I don't. Everything needs to come out there. Including this, and including Trump's attempt to recruit the military to rumble into town and hand the Presidency to him.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
5. K&R
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

All of this has to be made clear and shouted from the rooftops.

Shove the facts in their face. Each and every time they attempt tp downplay the insurrection, hit them with the facts.

Call a lie a lie and call a liar a liar.

Don't allow the insurrection to become a matter of opinion as torture was allowed to become through bullshit framing.

As in all those times people referred to torture as "Some people call it torture".

Don't allow it to become "Some people call it insurrection".

Treating it like it is up for debate and the only difference is which side of the aisle you sit on.

Because torture is torture and insurrection is insurrection.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
9. No deals , let the evidence be presented
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

That is what a trial is all about.

People trying to wrap this up and make it go away, shame on you !

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
10. Yes, testimony from officers directly involved will be powerful.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

Democrats can also destroy the myth that Repubs “back the blue.”

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