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Bingo. Here it is. Trump's path forward if he isn't stopped short now. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jan 2021 OP
We are in a dangerous situation. bamagal62 Jan 2021 #1
Help! I'm trapped in South Florida behind enemy lines! Towlie Jan 2021 #72
That's going to happen anyway. Why would "impeachment or indictment" stop them? NT enough Jan 2021 #2
The key objective should be preventing him from ever taking office again... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #19
The GOP is corrupt beyond redemption. Karadeniz Jan 2021 #3
Maybe Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #4
Kevin McCarthy has already made his pilgrimage to Mierda A Lago. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #5
well bdamomma Jan 2021 #32
Did we pay for his flight to FL?? vapor2 Jan 2021 #44
I doubt it LeftInTX Jan 2021 #71
Sure it wasn't orange 😊 Tribetime Jan 2021 #61
Nah. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #6
DeWine in Ohio Bear Creek Jan 2021 #65
DeWine is a fucking wet noodle NEOBuckeye Jan 2021 #67
Absolutely Bear Creek Jan 2021 #73
The GOP is corrupt beyond redemption. Trump needs to be tried and convicted in a criminal court Karadeniz Jan 2021 #7
THIS. dchill Jan 2021 #60
Been saying this for a few weeks now, the next step is to play the rightful ruler in exile. Thomas Hurt Jan 2021 #8
And what is he does? BGBD Jan 2021 #12
Prediction is that he will ask RW governors to take orders from HIM. Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #16
What governor is going to take orders from him BGBD Jan 2021 #22
Agreed. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #49
Yes BGBD Jan 2021 #52
The $$$ comes from the federal government. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #33
I think we ignore him at our peril. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #26
He's shed a lot support. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #35
True. I don't think he will ever be president again either. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #45
Seems like pardons are out the window BGBD Jan 2021 #54
Of course he has power...that is what those terrorists ransacking the Capitol was, power. Thomas Hurt Jan 2021 #29
No BGBD Jan 2021 #53
HE. HAS. POWER. dchill Jan 2021 #62
There doesn't have to be a plan beyond expecting that the DOJ and other Eyeball_Kid Jan 2021 #9
Louise Mensch, seriously? rusty fender Jan 2021 #69
I was thinking he'd run for mayor, or even worse, governor ecstatic Jan 2021 #10
Last I looked, Biden and the D-controlled Congress are the ones doling out $ to the states. stopbush Jan 2021 #11
"Wanted. VP candidate for 2024 GOP ticket. The successful applicant struggle4progress Jan 2021 #13
He did a readout of his mtg with McCarthy today... Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #14
shows bdamomma Jan 2021 #38
Former presidents are called president LeftInTX Jan 2021 #48
Yes jimlup Jan 2021 #15
too bad they don't align contiguously. nt Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #17
Ha - yes... jimlup Jan 2021 #37
At what point will he be arrested? malaise Jan 2021 #18
There's a remedy. Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #21
And he is a mob boss malaise Jan 2021 #23
I know. Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #28
Lots of reforms are needed malaise Jan 2021 #31
and he has bdamomma Jan 2021 #39
Indeed malaise Jan 2021 #41
Hitler was imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
The good news - this one is nearly 75 malaise Jan 2021 #25
That is what I am hoping for Malaise. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #40
Get with the program nature malaise Jan 2021 #43
Exactly! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #47
and he did boast about the chocolate cake at malaise Jan 2021 #50
Hey smirkymonkey bdamomma Jan 2021 #42
Hey, bdamomma! smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #46
wishing bdamomma Jan 2021 #51
What is the timetable for getting AG up to speed? nt Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #24
If Governors start taking orders from Trump, Biden should cut Blue_true Jan 2021 #27
chaos is the intent Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #30
Actually, many of us have been saying he is going to call himself the real Prez andym Jan 2021 #34
What Orders ? And he has already been impeached. JI7 Jan 2021 #36
Basically a coup with Trump as president with Republican governors as his country LeftInTX Jan 2021 #63
This would be where we use the military. roamer65 Jan 2021 #55
President in exile. kentuck Jan 2021 #56
What happened to SDNY? birdographer Jan 2021 #57
There's the scent of burning hair in the air. marble falls Jan 2021 #58
My family has heard this before he left office Sunsky Jan 2021 #59
RNC invited it to spring event SheltieLover Jan 2021 #64
He needs to be crushed and destroyed. NEOBuckeye Jan 2021 #66
just a thought ! monkeyman1 Jan 2021 #68
McCarthy bdamomma Jan 2021 #70

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
72. Help! I'm trapped in South Florida behind enemy lines!
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jan 2021

 


... and our governor is the notorious Ron "Death Sentence" DeSantis!


Pam Keith, Esq.
@PamKeithFL

You heard it here first:

If we do not CONTAIN Trump by impeachment or indictment, in a few months he will start to run a shadow government from Mar-a-Lago and at least a dozen governors will start to take their orders from HIM.

He will claim he is the legitimate President & we will be RIGHT BACK on the path yo civil war that the extreme right has been pushing for.

Our squeamishness serves NO ONE & NOTHING GOOD!

We need an AG right now, and we need indictments on EVERY GOP member who participated.

This WILL not get contained any other way.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
19. The key objective should be preventing him from ever taking office again...
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:40 PM
Jan 2021

that way he can only govern from a pretend shadow office.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
4. Maybe
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jan 2021

Senate and House Repubs will leave DC for Mar-a-Lago and we can actually get things done in Washington. Sounds good to me. In all seriousness, Trump needs to face justice for his crimes.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,720 posts)
5. Kevin McCarthy has already made his pilgrimage to Mierda A Lago.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:28 PM
Jan 2021

Was seen wearing brown lipstick as he left.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
32. well
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

McCarthy got stuck paying for his lunch, maybe he was wearing that lipstick when he left. Disgusting POS.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. Nah.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:29 PM
Jan 2021

They didn't take orders from him when he was president. They're not going to start now. GOP governors love to run the show and aren't about to let Trump tell them how to run their states.

On a side note, impeachment (she obviously means conviction, not impeachment) isn't going to "contain" Trump. She appears to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the process and available remedies. In that, she's not alone.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
65. DeWine in Ohio
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 12:02 AM
Jan 2021

He did right at the beginning of the Covid19 then he backtracked and got right in line.

Karadeniz

(24,746 posts)
7. The GOP is corrupt beyond redemption. Trump needs to be tried and convicted in a criminal court
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jan 2021

PRONTO and put in prison.

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
8. Been saying this for a few weeks now, the next step is to play the rightful ruler in exile.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jan 2021

if for no other reason than to fleece the RWNJs for another 200 Million.

Donnie is always the victim.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
12. And what is he does?
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

I don't really care if Trump is larping in Florida. He has no power. I would rather just forget he exists that sit here and worry about him.

The best way to deal with Trump is to ignore him now.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
16. Prediction is that he will ask RW governors to take orders from HIM.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jan 2021

And there are more than half a dozen easily identified who would do so, already.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
22. What governor is going to take orders from him
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jan 2021

that isn't already doing everything he'd want them to do anyway? What could he order them to do?

He wasn't even capable of leading as President. Why does anyone think he could run a "shadow" government?

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
49. Agreed.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jan 2021

I find the whole concept of him running a shadow government hilarious.

I guess it's the deep state, but in reverse.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
33. The $$$ comes from the federal government.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

If they were stupid and pledged loyalty to Trump then all federal money would be cut off. The governor’s would come crawling back. Trump has no official power. The entire government apparatus aka the “deep state” does not and will not answer to him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. I think we ignore him at our peril.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:44 PM
Jan 2021

I am optimistically hoping that he is imprisoned, mentally or physically incapacitated or dead within the near future.

But if none of those things happen, he is a very dangerous person and needs to be neutralized by whatever means possible.

We can't take a risk with someone like him. He is a cult figure and has too many people under his spell.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
35. He's shed a lot support.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jan 2021

His approval rating is only at 29%. He’ll always have his vile cult but he won’t ever become President again. That doesn’t change the fact that his orange ass should spend time in prison.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
45. True. I don't think he will ever be president again either.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jan 2021

But he can still wreak a lot of havoc in the meantime.

And I do think there is a good chance that he could spend some time in prison. There are the state charges from which he can not be pardoned. And there are a lot of legal people out there who would love nothing better than to see him destroyed. I am hoping that his luck has finally run out.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
54. Seems like pardons are out the window
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:07 PM
Jan 2021

He didn't pardon himself. If he did it "secretly" he'd still have had to make it known to DoJ and we'd have learned about it by now.

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
29. Of course he has power...that is what those terrorists ransacking the Capitol was, power.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:48 PM
Jan 2021

His hold over the RWNJs has diminished. He is still polling as the second coming of Jesus and Reagan.

He has shed some of the nutjobs but we are far from out of the woods.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
53. No
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jan 2021

He was President then and his power was an ability to hamstring the defense and response to those people.

He can't do that as a civilian. He could tell them to do it again and this time they run into a buzzsaw halfway down Pennsylvania Ave.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
9. There doesn't have to be a plan beyond expecting that the DOJ and other
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

jurisdictions just do their jobs and work the levers of justice. We should be expecting that grand juries have already been formed and are investigating Trump's crimes and those of others in his sphere.

Some time ago, Louise Mensch posted a belief, based upon her contacts, that Trump is already the subject of a sealed indictment at the SDNY. That's not been verified by the press, but it's a likelihood that she had good sources.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
69. Louise Mensch, seriously?
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 12:30 AM
Jan 2021

During the Mueller investigation she claimed that there were sealed indictments against Trumpass

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
10. I was thinking he'd run for mayor, or even worse, governor
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

of Florida or some other unfortunate "red" state.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
11. Last I looked, Biden and the D-controlled Congress are the ones doling out $ to the states.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

If R govs want to believe tRump is the actual POTUS, they can get their Fed $ from him.

struggle4progress

(126,157 posts)
13. "Wanted. VP candidate for 2024 GOP ticket. The successful applicant
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:35 PM
Jan 2021

will not complain when party leadership sends an angry mob with gallows to hang him"

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
14. He did a readout of his mtg with McCarthy today...
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:35 PM
Jan 2021

....and in it, he called himself the president.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
48. Former presidents are called president
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jan 2021

Just like Nancy Pelosi was called Speaker when she wasn't speaker etc etc

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
15. Yes
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:35 PM
Jan 2021

this is likely true. The trama we have experienced as a country is not over. Unfortanately, he who shall not be named is only a symptom of a more serious disease.

Part of me thinks just go ahead ... what will have happened is that states that take orders from this alignment have essentially succeeded. I don't know where this leads but part of me thinks that we should just say to hell with them. Let them go. Maybe holdling the Union together in the civil war was actually a mistake. Obviously, sane people living in these states are then in jeopardy but if it becomes obvious that they are seditionists against the Union, then maybe a real rejection of this failed philosophy will prevail.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
21. There's a remedy.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:42 PM
Jan 2021

Charge him with tax evasion, lock him up, gag order, seize/freeze all Trump assets immediately.

True, a mob boss can run an operation from inside federal prison. But it would at least hinder his plan while other charges can be adjudicated.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
28. I know.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jan 2021

But extraordinary measures could ensue.

But look how they handled Manafort. Fer cryin' out loud. He ran scams from inside his loose confinement in prison. See that as a cautionary tale.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Hitler was imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jan 2021

It still did not stop him from spreading his propaganda and coming back even stronger after he was released.

What kind of message will it send if Donald Trump is not prosecuted to the full extent of the law?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. That is what I am hoping for Malaise.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jan 2021

And he is very unhealthy 75 year old at that. And possibly suffering from a range of degenerative illnesses including dementia. I don't think he's long for this world, but god knows who will pop up to replace him.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
42. Hey smirkymonkey
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jan 2021

I did hear Randi Rhodes mention that on her show, truly disturbing. I hope he has a extremely health issue.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
46. Hey, bdamomma!
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jan 2021

So do I! Sooner or later, his luck has to give out. Hope you are doing well and staying healthy!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. If Governors start taking orders from Trump, Biden should cut
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jan 2021

off their funding wherever possible. Let Trump find the funds for them.

andym

(6,066 posts)
34. Actually, many of us have been saying he is going to call himself the real Prez
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:54 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214788777

What to expect: Trump will soon be calling himself the "Real President" from the sidelines
After the majority of GOP House Reps support Trump in his quixotic bid to steal the election, with the outcome that Trump loses again, what will Trump do?

I think he will call himself the "real President Trump" from the sidelines and order his GOP minions not to cooperate with President Biden. He will be the GOP's Simple Simon, calling the shots. Most of the cowards in the GOP will follow his every whim. He will then run for his "third term" in 2024-- too bad for the GOP hopefuls like Senator Hawley. Expect lots of rallies from the "real Airforce One"-- a replica that will have to be created by his rich billionaire friends.

I wonder if he will go as far as to have the real State of the Union Address etc. ? Probably.

Why? His huge ego demands that he be the "leader" and that means he will never, ever admit he lost.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
63. Basically a coup with Trump as president with Republican governors as his country
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jan 2021

I guess like the civil war??

Sounds like a crazy CT to me.

Trump will wield power, but not as a "shadow president"...He will do it via TV and threats to primary every Republican that does not give him what he wants.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
55. This would be where we use the military.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:10 PM
Jan 2021

We have used it in the past for sedition and insurrection.

We can and will use it again.

Governors can be removed and a military governor appointed.

This man was military governor of TN before he was Lincoln’s VP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
57. What happened to SDNY?
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:33 PM
Jan 2021

I was under the impression they were ready to pounce with charges the minute he was out of office. I would have expected them to make their move by now, I thought they had everything they needed for various financial crimes he has committed. Kind of disappointing that they are nowhere in sight.

Sunsky

(1,876 posts)
59. My family has heard this before he left office
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

I've been saying this since the insurrection. McCarthy, Graham, and McConnell's behavior have solidified my view on this. His cult will cling to the fact that he still has influence within the party as a sign that he is working on a plan to get rid of the deep state and make his grand comeback. They'll become more emboldened and continue their misdeeds.

NEOBuckeye

(2,922 posts)
66. He needs to be crushed and destroyed.
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 12:05 AM
Jan 2021

Wreck his brand and his financial empire. Tear it all down and toss the motherfucker in prison for the rest of his miserable life.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
68. just a thought !
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

me think the state of IRAN will catch up to him by then !!! they want his fat sorry ass & thing is - they don't forget like Americans do .

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
70. McCarthy
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jan 2021

wants to be House Speaker period, he will use the Qanon bastards to get the POWER back. Same for McConnell.

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