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BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 03:29 PM Jan 2021

Republican ties to extremist groups under scrutiny

Last edited Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Republican ties to extremist groups under scrutiny

Jan. 29, 2021 at 3:30 am



By Matthew Rosenberg and Luke Broadwater
The New York Times

WASHINGTON — The video’s title was posed as a question, but it left little doubt about where the men who filmed it stood. They called it “The Coming Civil War?” and in its opening seconds, Jim Arroyo, who leads an Arizona chapter of Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, declared that the conflict had already begun.

To back up his claim, Arroyo cited Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, one of the most far-right members of Congress. Gosar had paid a visit to the local Oath Keepers chapter a few years earlier, Arroyo recounted, and when asked if the United States was headed for a civil war, the congressman’s “response to the group was just flat out: ‘We’re in it. We just haven’t started shooting at each other yet.’”

Less than two months after the video was posted, members of the Oath Keepers were among those with links to extremist groups from around the country who took part in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, prompting new scrutiny of the links between members of Congress and an array of organizations and movements that espouse far-right beliefs.

Nearly 150 House Republicans supported President Donald Trump’s baseless claims that the election had been stolen from him. But Gosar and a handful of other Republican members of the House had deeper ties to extremist groups who pushed violent ideas and conspiracy theories and whose members were prominent among those who stormed the halls of Congress in an effort to stop certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

Read more: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/republican-ties-to-extremist-groups-under-scrutiny/


(Original NYT link - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/us/republican-ties-to-extremist-groups-under-scrutiny.html)

Updated NYT link - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/republicans-trump-capitol-riot.html
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Republican ties to extremist groups under scrutiny (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 OP
Thanks. BTW, NYT changed their link. hedda_foil Jan 2021 #1
Thanks - just added it to the OP BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #4
The Radical Republican Reich, formerly the Republican Party, -is- an extremist group. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #2
A nice, thorough Turbineguy Jan 2021 #3
And why in the hell any black, brown or native american people would even BEGIN to hang BComplex Jan 2021 #5
They get "attention" and are coddled BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #6
I had to look to see if perhaps someone was doing blackface MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #8
Oh I live near plenty of Latino racists... LeftInTX Jan 2021 #9
From the article: LeftInTX Jan 2021 #7
But what happened with Gosar and Biggs was worse than "photo ops" or fundraisers per the article BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #10
Agree! LeftInTX Jan 2021 #11

BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
4. Thanks - just added it to the OP
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jan 2021


When they popped up the Breaking News banner for that article, it took me about 10 minutes to even find the damn thing on their site (they usually stick a link on their twitter feed but didn't at the time and I had to dig through the site to find it).

Turbineguy

(40,074 posts)
3. A nice, thorough
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jan 2021

investigation by the FBI and a NSA check on their relations with Russian intelligence groups.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
5. And why in the hell any black, brown or native american people would even BEGIN to hang
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:29 PM
Jan 2021

with these racists is so far beyond me, I can't even begin to reach it.

BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
6. They get "attention" and are coddled
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jan 2021

It becomes a "win-win"... The loons can claim "See? We're not racists!!1!!1!!!" and the POC can be the focus of attention because there are only a handful and as such, they stand out like a bonfire on the dark side of the moon.

Until... those attention-starved POC are no longer "needed" and are subsequently "discarded", like... Omarosa!

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
8. I had to look to see if perhaps someone was doing blackface
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

Since the KKKGOP likes dressing up in blackface.

It definitely wouldn't surprise me!

LeftInTX

(34,294 posts)
9. Oh I live near plenty of Latino racists...
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

They really don't see themselves as "brown". They see themselves as "Texans"

LeftInTX

(34,294 posts)
7. From the article:
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jan 2021
But in signaling either overt or tacit support, a small but vocal band of Republicans now serving in the House provided legitimacy and publicity to extremist groups and movements as they built toward their role in supporting Trump’s efforts to subvert the outcome of the 2020 election and the attack on Congress.

Aitan D. Goelman, a former federal prosecutor who helped convict Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, said that when elected officials — or even candidates for office — took actions like appearing with militia groups or other right-wing groups, it “provides them with an added imprimatur of legitimacy.”


Also Gosar attended an Oath Keepers event.

They need to avoid attending this types of events and avoid photo ops with these types. You can't really ban them from town halls (public, govt sponsored events), but you can refuse to attend their fundraisers and you can refuse to be a speaker at their events etc. I believe they could probably put something in the House rules...

BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
10. But what happened with Gosar and Biggs was worse than "photo ops" or fundraisers per the article
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jan 2021
In the days after the 2020 election, Paul Gosar and Biggs helped turn Arizona into a crucible for the Stop the Steal movement, finding common cause with hard-liners who until then had toiled in obscurity, like Ali Alexander. The two congressmen recorded a video, “This Election Is A Joke,” which was viewed more than 1 million times and spread disinformation about widespread voter fraud.


Recording a loon video that is "viewed more than 1 million times" on youtube, sortof puts you front and center, unable to claim - "Well I can't help who attends my fundraisers or my town halls".

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