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Take a moment to wrap you head around that. Take another moment. The Doctor and Scientist is trying to save thousands of Americans lives from a pandemic that has take more than 430K loved ones from us. Yet some, far to many, want him dead and his children threatened with death.
Trump however wants us all dead and keeps sending his minions to accomplish that which the pandemic hasn't accomplished. He wants to murder our Democratic leaders and claim this country as his own.
FUCK NO!
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)up NOW!
triron
(22,240 posts)wnylib
(26,008 posts)a time in this country when threatening to harm or kill a government employee, elected or appointed, got a quick visit from the FBI and was often followed up by a coury appearance. There was a time when inciting violence was a crime.
TexasLefty29
(190 posts)A lot of this hate speech is taking place online, and it IS protected by Section 230. DJt wanted it gone so he could sue, which is selfish, but What he didnt realize was that it protected him too. Same with all these crazies. Maybe we should be re-evaluating whats allowed to be said, even online. Towards the nation, of course. Crimes towards your country is an entirely different ballgame, I dont know if speaking like that about your country is exactly protected under the first amendment. Its illegal to burn a flag right? Same thing, its just your tongue that is fire. Rambling...bottom line is I agree one thousand percent, its time the law catches up with technology.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)what you say is illegal, regardless of whether it is online.
If what you say is untrue and damaging to the person you say it about, you can be sued for libel or slander. It's a civil rather than criminal case, but you are not protected by first amendment free speech in such cases.
You cannot incite a stampede where people get trampled by yelling, "Fire!" in a crowded theater when you know there is no fire. You can be arrested and charged with a crime for making a bomb threat, even if there is no bomb, and regardless of whether you make the threat online, on the phone, or in a letter.
The US gives a lot of leeway in speech because of the first amendment. You can threaten to burn down your neighbor's house, but you will not be arrested unless you actually take steps toward doing it. Then your words become evidence of intent.
If someone is making repeated threats to harm someone, to the point that the threat is harrassment and damaging to someone's psychological well being or livelihood, the person making the threat can be sued for damages.
It has usually been the case that making threats or taking intimidating and agressive actions (stalking, verbally harrassing, blocking physical space) toward someone in government was treated as a crime, or at least as a case for FBI investigation and warning. But that is not happening now and that is what I am angry about. Republicans in Congress are stalking, harrassing, and threatening by implication (carrying forbidden guns) other members of Congress, with impunity.
TexasLefty29
(190 posts)Ive heard someone say before, you cant shout fire in a crowded theater - I see why now. The differences, in a threat to cause harm, and a threat to indiscriminately cause harm. Towards a person, towards a group (or entity). ... I remember as a young child, wondering about the movie Minority Report and if it could ever be real. (Presently 28 YO.) - ... also makes me worry for my generation - we are losing the sense of words, truth, being a stand up person, etc. rambling .... we are supposed to be evolving toward femininity (not necessarily literal) and right brain thinking, on a grander scale. Some are not evolving and progressing.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)fire in a crowded theater comes from a Supreme Court justice when he was explaining the legal limits of free speech. I can't remember which justice said it, but it was many years ago. I can remember my junior high civics teacher telling us about it in the 1960s.
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)locking up all those WHITE people?
It's far beyond time to go scorched earth on these assholes. They are not Americans. They are Nazi filth! The only solution to Nazi filth is arrest, prosecution, conviction and subsequent imprisonment.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Period........
Don't we send Terrorists to Gitmo???????????
certainot
(9,090 posts)he and many of the rest have long podcast records of it
SayItLoud
(1,774 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)So many horrible people in the US.....
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)😱😨😰🤭😣
Karma13612
(4,981 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)Kill a man and his family for trying to save lives.
gulliver
(13,985 posts)They need to repeatedly call off all harassment and all violence unconditionally.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)They would say Trump has been kidnapped and that's an actor posing as him and saying that.
EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts).....had replaced him with a hologram that was synced with the mind altering drugs that George Soros and Hillary had personally put into our water supplies and, and......and....never mind, I just can't compete with the real crazies.
EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts)....funny anymore. Dr. Fauci is a national hero. Any effort to hurt him or his family should result in the perpetrators being incinerated. This from someone who is no fan of capitol punishment.
sheshe2
(97,620 posts)Trump tried to gag him. Trump is gone now and Fauci is able to do his job. He is no longer muzzled and some just can't stand the truth that he speaks. A lot more are going to die with the lack of a distribution plan for the vaccine and no effing vaccine available. Trump left us exposed. So many more of us will die.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)Fauci and his family targeted like this, I am relieved for your sake to see that you were quoting someone in the OP title and not speaking directly about yourself.
sheshe2
(97,620 posts)However I am a Democratic voter, wnylib.
magicarpet
(18,508 posts)This bullying and thuggish behavior is way too Neanderthal for a civilized society. The world watched as AmeriKKKa suffers a period of trDump political and cultural regression.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)... change his policy advice or work treating people or his science.
But they are so lacking in integrity that they think everyone else similarly lacks integrity.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)but I suspect they wouldn't care if it changed him or not. They are scum enough to just enjoy hurting someone they dislike.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Duppers
(28,469 posts)"If they were black..."
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)BlueCanine
(87 posts)Federal, state, local LEOs and DAs must pursue, charge and prosecute all who threaten those who tell the truth.
We must not let the number of these assholes be a reason to pick and choose. They ALL need to suffer the repercussions of their threats.
DBoon
(24,982 posts)The activities of these deplorables prevent democracy from working and people from carrying out essential public services.
How many local public health officials have resigned after being subjected to threats like these?
How many citizens have refrained from speaking out due to fear for themselves and their families?
Law enforcement must treat these threats seriously and not disregard them.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)bdamomma
(69,532 posts)taking REVENGE, explains how he did not do anything about Covid 19, of 437,743 dead Americans. And his cult members and followers will also take the fall. Haven't they already with Jan 6th? But being released which I do not understand especially when they have
weapons and explosives found.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Any admiration I had for this country, any notion of its fundamental decency, is being eroded to a dangerously low point.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)who need leadership to show them the way. They usually have unresolved emotional issues that leave them ready to follow anyone who gives them an outlet for anger, envy, self-pity, or self-serving demands. They need the kind of leader who sets an example of how to live and how to channel their energy to positive ends.
Trump and before him, the GOP in general, gave them the opposite example and appealed to their worst natures.
LuckyLib
(7,052 posts)the same way. I was blown away that there were so many stupid people!
judesedit
(4,592 posts)tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)What trump has unleashed is unforgivable
HUAJIAO
(2,730 posts)terrorized by Stalin, bombed, shelled and starved by Hitler and the German Army.
In the space of 10 months in America 430,000 Americans have died from Covid-19.
So who is worse, Stalin?.... Hitler ?.... or trump and republicans...?
All three men murdered their own people.
Fauci may not be Shostakovich, but he is trying to save the USA from more deaths.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,075 posts)RVN VET71
(3,192 posts)Ive said elsewhere that I used to shudder at the thought of living in, say, Pakistan, or Burma, or India because of the frequent eruptions of violence against minorities and people suspiciously thought to lack sufficient muslim piety. I used to think, wow, how crazy and dangerous those countries are.
After 4 years of the Orange Pantload, I dont say it quite the same way. Now I say, yes, wow, how crazy and dangerous our countries are. America is in the same shit-boat as the countries I liked to think were just so full of violence and willful ignorance and hatred. We really have descended -- although maybe its not so much descended to a horrible level of barbarity so much as revealed ourselves as having been there all along.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,075 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(12,217 posts)A BIG one! He doesn't make policy, he rarely makes speeches and probably doesn't like it when he has to. He is a doctor of good repute - the best, even - and is being threatened because people mistrust and even hate science.
Our way of life is all but doomed.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What the hell is wrong with these people? When did people start wanting to kill other people for simply expressing a different viewpoint? Especially one backed up by the scientific and medical communities. This country has a sickness that is spreading, aside from Covid-19.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)We can treat covid and vaccinate against it. But what treatment or cure is there for sadistic hatred? For cult worship? It spreads without direct, in person contact across thousands of miles.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)I posted on another thread how they now stand at the busiest intersection in our town of Palm Beach Gardens, FL during rush hour shouting at passing cars while waving "FUCK BIDEN" flags. So nice to see little kids walking home from school and seeing that.
Bunch of subhuman piece of craps.
redstatebluegirl
(12,827 posts)Jon King
(1,910 posts)These people spend every waking moment thinking up new ways to be aholes. What a sad way to spend your precious short time on the planet.
redstatebluegirl
(12,827 posts)No way am I going to piss him off.
hadEnuf
(3,613 posts)But look what happened when other people with guns showed up at the Capitol building. (The National Guard)
They hid like the cowardly vermin they really are.
ooky
(10,922 posts)Deplorable, sick people. They have no decency or moral principles.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)This is crazy.
lpbk2713
(43,273 posts)Although it makes good sense to be cautious.
mcar
(46,055 posts)This is outrageous!
They still have it stuck in their craw that he told them to WEAR A MASK!
Delphinus
(12,522 posts)Response to sheshe2 (Original post)
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hadEnuf
(3,613 posts)Unfortunately it seems the only way to get through to these creatures is to make sure they understand that their force is matched or exceeded by the good guys and that if they start any violence it will not be tolerated. Period.
Sadly it's starting to denigrate to that level.
wnylib
(26,008 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,412 posts)because he shred with his fans that there was the possibility of his info being shared. She was incensed. If I show her this, she will just be angry with me for bringing it to her attention. I'm stymied. Her husband has brainwashed her. And he has likely done the same with their 21 year old son.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,956 posts)Niagara
(11,849 posts)I'm so glad that Dr. Fauci can now speak freely under real leadership.
sheshe2
(97,620 posts)Relaxed, steady and clear on his facts. He smiles and tells us exactly what the 'trumpest' tried to do to do to him, censure him. He is clear as a bell, unfettered and uncensored we are finally getting the facts. What we are hearing is painful and a clear picture of our future. We are in darkness now. It is going to be a long haul for us. We need to listen to what he says.
Niagara
(11,849 posts)I can only imagine how relieved Dr. Fauci is now that he's not being undermined by incompetent clown and it's entire administration.
I keep telling people to keep their chin up as it's going to be a long hard road with Covid.
sheshe2
(97,620 posts)Niagara
(11,849 posts)SunSeeker
(58,274 posts)hay rick
(9,604 posts)It's a public health emergency.
Nitram
(27,741 posts)a bunch of hypocritical whining snowflakes.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)In spite of the fact that one is way too many, almost no one has actually been killed.
As upsetting as it truly is, those making these threats are for the most part cowards that hide in the anonymity of the internet with absolutely no intention of carrying out these threats. They wouldn't have the guts or stomach for it and know they'd surely end up dead or in jail themselves. Because they are cowards at heart.
I think it's important to remember this.
Exercise caution, but do not live in fear and let these terrorists win.
mdbl
(8,650 posts)for the sake of our democracy.