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OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
1. Bad news indeed. It should not be this way.....
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 10:39 PM
Jan 2021

China needs a free HK more than it realizes.

applegrove

(132,153 posts)
5. Yes that is why many got canadian citizenship because they were afraid of chinese communism.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:19 AM
Jan 2021

But they have lives in Hong Kong. This is so sad. I hope if they do return to canada they can sponsor friends and family. Heartbreaking to see a bright, promising place go dark.

roamer65

(37,952 posts)
6. I agree, applegrove.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:20 AM
Jan 2021

But this is why many of them got dual citizenship after the 1997 handover.

Smart decision on their part and I think they will be able to get family out.

I never believed the Chinese would stick to the agreement until 2047. They never did in Tibet.

applegrove

(132,153 posts)
7. Many got the dual citizenship before 1997. Lucky for Canada. What a loss
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:23 AM
Jan 2021

for Hong Kong.

applegrove

(132,153 posts)
9. Yes. Chinese Embassy in Ottawa put barbed wire up around their compound
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:40 AM
Jan 2021

recently. At least at the top of the back wall on the river. They have kidnapped 2 canadians in China as a result of canada holding for extradition to the US a Huawei executive who lied to Congress. Then tonight on Bill Maher two scientists went into the 90% probability that covid came from a lab in Wuhan. Probably an accident. The idea was first put down when it came out in 2020. Now it is looking more and more like it.

"SNIP....

Bill Maher:

Tonight’s interview is with evolutionary biologists Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein. They co-host the podcast “The DarkHorse Podcast” and have written the book A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century.



.....SNIP"

I don't know what to think the Chinese are up to, but they expect blowback.

roamer65

(37,952 posts)
10. I'm not sold quite yet on it being an accident out of the Wuhan virology institute.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:03 AM
Jan 2021

I still think it’s because humans are going places and doing things they ought not to be going to or doing. The antibodies to the virus have shown up in bloodwork as early as September 2019 in Italy.

SARS-CoV-1 and MERS were zoonotic transfer, and that is the way I lean on this one without concrete evidence of a laboratory accident.

roamer65

(37,952 posts)
12. Makes me really wonder where this virus came from...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jan 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing/researchers-find-coronavirus-was-circulating-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-idUSKBN27W1J2

Could it be an accident? Yes.
Could it be zoonotic transfer? Yes.
Could be be both? Yes.

I don’t think we will ever really know, just like the 1918 flu bug.

roamer65

(37,952 posts)
15. Originally I thought it was possible a lab worker contracted it from an lab animal.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:37 AM
Jan 2021

That could possibly be the route to humans, through an intermediate species. But that could also happen in any wet market or in nature.

But we will never know if that was the case, or where it exactly originated.

Bannon’s idea of it being on purpose is horse shit. You are right, completely unreliable.

applegrove

(132,153 posts)
16. The inference tonight was that it was a research lab developing viruses
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:41 AM
Jan 2021

for good reasons or bad, and it got out of the lab. I'm going to park this and ignore it for now. Bannon is a conspiracy theory developer.

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