Fresh evidence of Trump inciting insurrection to be presented at Senate trial

[luv2fly]

'Fresh evidence' of Trump inciting insurrection to be presented at Senate impeachment trial: report
Bob Brigham
January 29, 2021

The second impeachment trial of Donald Trump will look dramatically different than the first according to a new report by The Washington Post.

"House Democrats have sought out new cellphone footage of the Capitol siege as well as updated details about injured police officers as they seek to build an emotionally compelling impeachment case against former president Donald Trump. The goal is to present the Senate with fresh evidence that reveals what Trump knew in advance of the Jan. 6 rampage at the Capitol, as well as how his words and actions influenced those who participated," the newspaper reported Friday evening. "The rioting left five dead, including one member of the U.S. Capitol Police. In addition, two officers, one with the D.C. Police Department, have since died by suicide."

Democrats won't just be prosecuting Trump in hopes of GOP senators voting to convict, but will also be focused on trying the case for voters watching the proceedings on television.

More at:

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-insurrection-impeachment/

[riversedge]

1. "focused on trying the case for voters ..." Yes, good to do this.

[machoneman]

15. The Plan all along: show the people just how involved the elected R's and staffs were in this....

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conspiracy to kill Democratic leaders and Pence, take over the seat of the U.S. Government and install Trump as the Fifth Reich's Fuhrer. Show how they ignored the voter's desires, threw shade at the entire election process and say they, not us, know what's best for the country. Booh-hoo, they lost!

[SharonAnn]

21. That worked for me with the Nixon trial. I supported him until the witness testimonies

Laid bare the entire operation and cover-up. I was more aware of the corruption.

It’s the beginning of how I became first, an Independent, then a Democrat.

[deurbano]

30. I worry it's different now, though, since that was before Fox and Limbaugh came on the scene,

much less the current expansive and toxic stew of rightwing media.

My Republican mother eventually thought Nixon had to go, but NOW, she is choosing the Trump sycophant and traitor Kevin McCarthy over former congressman Bill Thomas, who recently called McCarthy (his former office intern and staffer) out in a very damning way for promoting the myth of a stolen election. My mom was head of constituent services for Thomas. She worked for him for thirty years, and basically worshipped him, but since she gets her marching orders from rightwing media, she is unreachable in terms of facts or principles; it's all about being on Team GOP, which now means Team Trump, no matter how low he goes. I mean, she first insisted Trump's candidacy was a joke....then she began to worry it was being taken seriously and said she could never vote for such a despicable person, that he just couldn't be the nominee, that the idea made her sick....then she supported Kasich in the primary.... then Trump became the nominee... then my mom said people like Romney needed to stop saying bad things about Trump... then she flew 3000 miles to attend the inauguration.

To see her turn on Bill Thomas ("he should have kept his thoughts to himself" regarding McCarthy's shameless support of the Big Lie)-- the rare Republican who apparently still has some suggestion of a spine and a remaining vestige of a principle--has been startling. She has always chosen party over family, but I never anticipated the day would come when she'd throw Bill Thomas under the bus. (She threw me under it a long time ago.)

https://www.bakersfield.com/news/in-interview-retired-congressman-bill-thomas-knocks-mccarthy-for-supporting-lies/article_a215a0d6-57aa-11eb-8f10-5bd247ddd73e.html

[AntiFascist]

34. They will likely continue to spin this as Dems wasting the Senate's time...

Democrats need to drive home the point that Trump should never be allowed to run for office again, and that this is the primary purpose of going through the evidence for conviction so thoroughly.

[CentralMass]

2. K&R

I'll bet it will never see the light of day on Fux Nuse

[sarchasm]

9. Nor in the sick minds of millions of Americans...

...including a huge number of congressional members. All of them implicit.

[CentralMass]

16. +1

[maddiemom]

22. COMplicit?

[sarchasm]

37. I need schoolin'..

[cannabis_flower]

19. But footage

Will make great campaign ads.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. I flipped over to Fox during impeachment one. They were showing

but had the screen divided in boxes and along the right hand side were these bullet point blurbs. It was so distracting.

In my mind during the first trial, they took maybe two days worth of information and spread it out and it became very repetitive. I hope this time the evidence presented matches more closely to a more effective time window.

[Layzeebeaver]

3. the people who attended came from all over the country

and they self-selected themselves to attend in Washington based on signals and messages they had received and processed over the past 12 years of vitriolic racist themes vomited up from the former turd-in-chief.

Over the past 6 years, the so-called "political rallies" were the vile garden where the seeds of this insurrection were sewn.

They should all be charged, tried, and hopefully convicted by their peers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Yes, and trump breathed life into the embers of hate - for 4

years. He united them through rallies and social media and became their leader.

[KS Toronado]

4. Hope everyone involved in the insurrection gets jail time

Need to send the message that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and you will pay dearly for doing so.

[Fritz Walter]

12. "Gitmo" is nice this time of year

Maybe all the Q-Incels and Karens should be treated like the terrorists they are. Send them to Guantamo Bay. No cell phones. No Internet. No Faux Gnus. No visitors. No organic food or other dietary preferences. And hurricane season is only five months away.

That would send a clear and strong message to others who romanticize insurrection: "You're next!"

[KS Toronado]

26. Good idea.......

Attempt to overthrow our government, you're not worthy of a jail cell in this country. Go where we house
all terrorists...GITMO.

[SCantiGOP]

28. I think you are exaggerating for effect

Because 99% of the Democrats I know would demand that Gitmo be closed down as an illegal stain on American jurisprudence.
I am perfectly content to have these people serve sentences in American prisons.

[zentrum]

5. Sounds like they

…..may have finally learned something from The Lincoln Project. Or have actual advisors from them.

[twodogsbarking]

6. Lawsuits need to be filed against Trump

by the thousands, and then filed again.

[Ilsa]

7. Trump's lawyers will claim trump had no

control over the actions of his cult, that they misunderstood his typical hyperbole as a call to action. Yeah, right. Let's hope it's even more direct than that.

I wish they had audio/video of trump talking about his method of how to get his point across, order his subordinates, without actually telling them to break the law. I think the managers should present that evidence if they can find it.

[Botany]

8. Trump's own words from Dec. 2020 .... "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

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[North Shore Chicago]

10. The Senate

could be shown video footage showing trump ACTUALLY STABBING (HITTING) the police or congress personnel.

I do not believe it would move them to convict. These people have no souls. The fight and evidence directly to the American people, even then I have doubts.

[Harker]

11. Still, it's anything but a show trial.

The republican'ts preemptive declarations of intent to acquit must not prevent the evidence from being shown to the public, and put into the record for posterity.

[kentuck]

13. And then, after the trial, Merrick Garland and the SDNY will begin their investigations...

...and indictments?

The trial in the Senate will be a roadmap to follow? All other crimes will be connected to the sedition against our government?

[OMGWTF]

20. NY AG James has 67 sealed indictments ready to go.

[Blue_playwright]

25. I keep wondering why they are waiting?

[wnylib]

31. So do I. What's the holdup?

[cbdo2007]

38. No they don't. Knock it off with this please.

[DeSmet]

17. Here is one timeline

Showing the events leading up to, during and after the Trump Insurrection. Compelling is the eleventh hour replacements in the military with Trump loyalists, ignoring calls for help during and the lies told by Trump on Jan. 7.

https://billmoyers.com/story/insurrection-timeline-first-the-coup-and-then-the-cover-up-updated/

[Pepsidog]

29. Great timeline.

[edhopper]

18. So McConnell asking for a few weeks for ATrump to organize his defense

gave the House prosecutors two more weeks to get extra evidence.

Cool.

[Politicub]

27. New body-cam footage was shown on CNN this morning

It was from a DC policeman who was being beaten by the crowd. One person was striking him with a flagpole with the American flag still attached. He was crying out for help.

The terrorists are dangerous. It infuriates me that they are being treated with kid gloves.

[Vinca]

35. That might have been the same footage where a man is calling out that a woman is dead.

Shame they haven't got an up close image of that to show to the public. Nothing like human being being crushed by a murderous crowd that is totally out of control.

[BComplex]

32. They really need to prosecute the senators and house members who were complicit.

This trial needs to show republiQans in all their gorey.

[Cha]

33. KR

[pecosbob]

36. I hope that any footage presented shows the woman the crowd trampled to death

and makes the connection with Trump shouting FIRE in a theater and causing her death.