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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:05 PM Jan 2021

Prominent never trumpers and former republicans

Even the ones we like (Nicole Wallace, Ann Navarro, Steve Schmidt, etc...) They created Trump and Marjorie green, and the domestic terrorists who invaded the Capitol...they let this stuff and people like them fester for decades...this crap has been around for years and the people I named put up with these crazy racist people because they needed them in elections....now the crazies have replaced them

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Prominent never trumpers and former republicans (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 OP
Ask the bear to dance Dave in VA Jan 2021 #1
Yep, look at who put Sarah Palin in the headlights Under The Radar Jan 2021 #2
Yes. They created a frankenstein and lost control to him. The monsters have now taken control... brush Jan 2021 #3
Meh, this has been in motion since 1964. This is the logical OnDoutside Jan 2021 #4
Some of the never trumpers like Rick Wilson have apologized for mucifer Jan 2021 #5
Steve Schmidt and Stuart Stevens as well. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2021 #6
Better to have changed their minds than not. world wide wally Jan 2021 #7
FWIW GigiLeigh Jan 2021 #8
LOL! Did anyone catch Steve Schmidt being interviewed by Joy Reid on her show the bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #9

Dave in VA

(2,041 posts)
1. Ask the bear to dance
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jan 2021

and be prepared to dance as long as the bear chooses.

Looks like the bear is tired of the dance and has chosen to eat them instead.

brush

(53,963 posts)
3. Yes. They created a frankenstein and lost control to him. The monsters have now taken control...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jan 2021

of the party. At least those three are pushing back unlike McTurtle and Mccarthy, Hawley, Cruz and all the rest. We might even say trump is the ultimate monster who broke the chains and took over.

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
4. Meh, this has been in motion since 1964. This is the logical
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jan 2021

conclusion of decades of turning a blind eye to the crazies. As people like Schmidt, Stevens etc have admitted, they knew that they were there but thought they were a rag tag fringe. The emergence of Trump gave them a focal point that wasn't there up to then. Trump gave them cover, in a similar way the crazies on the far left tried to use their focal point. Thankfully the Democratic Party survived because the center held.

You can slag the Never Trumpers all you want but they worked hard to fight back against Trump, and are taking the fight to the Trumpist GOP.

mucifer

(23,597 posts)
5. Some of the never trumpers like Rick Wilson have apologized for
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:41 PM
Jan 2021

pushing vulture capitalism and ignoring the racism in the party. I think it's ok to forgive people. Especially when they have talents and they are now fighting for democracy.

DinahMoeHum

(21,825 posts)
6. Steve Schmidt and Stuart Stevens as well. . .
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jan 2021

. . .both also Lincoln Project people.

The senior US Navy POW during the Vietnam War, James Stockdale (Medal of Honor recipient and retired as a Vice Admiral) used to say this regarding colleagues who once wavered in their commitment to the Code of Conduct during their ordeal but then bounced back:

"It is neither American nor Christian to nag a repentant sinner to the grave"


Emphasis on repentant, people.

GigiLeigh

(76 posts)
8. FWIW
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jan 2021

Nicolle Wallace didn't vote for McCain when she was running his campaign because of Sarah Palin. I give her some credit for that.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
9. LOL! Did anyone catch Steve Schmidt being interviewed by Joy Reid on her show the
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:40 PM
Jan 2021

other night? Nikole Hannah Jones was part of the discussion as well, and they were talking about the racist history of the Republican party. Joy definitely brought up that the Democratic party also has plenty of recent history with racism; i.e., the Dixiecrats, who persisted into the 1970s.

Anyway, Joy brought up Ronald Reagan kicking off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, under the banner of "states' rights". This is the town where 3 young civil rights workers were murdered, and their bodies were buried, by the ancestors of the low-life cretins that overran the Capitol. Steve Schmidt started sputtering and stumbling out a response, trying to say that you can't compare Reagan and Trump, but honestly, the make-up the fan club was barely any different, then and now. I think he was relieved once that segment ended...

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