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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUlysses s Grant quote it applies today.
There are two parties now traitors and patriots. And I want hereafter to be ranked with the latter. And I trust the stronger party.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)He was the right man for the times in many ways.
TEB
(12,841 posts)I will read anything I can get about him. And on my interest in history. As others such as Hannibal of Carthage or East front. We have a nation today because of General Grant and his army. He was a war fighter he pinned Lee as he was trying to bag in retreat to joe Jackson army after Richmond.
panader0
(25,816 posts)As a kid, I had a file box that listed every battle, listing casualties, etc. I have many books from my youth.
One is a set called the photographic history of the Civil War--five thick volumes with thousands of photos.
https://www.amazon.com/Photographic-History-Civil-War-Set/dp/0785829121/ref=sr_1_5?crid=G9R7PCM3MDZQ&dchild=1&keywords=photographic+history+of+the+civil+war+set&qid=1612181657&s=books&sprefix=Photographic+History+of+the+Ci%2Cstripbooks%2C240&sr=1-5
rpannier
(24,329 posts)He sits with the Roosevelts on my list of great Presidents
NNadir
(33,512 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 1, 2021, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)
I personally regard his presidency as the second most important of the 19th century.
HUAJIAO
(2,383 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)mountain grammy
(26,618 posts)History in my youth painted Grant as a drunk. Of course further study put that to rest and I'm grateful. After Chernow's book and the 3 part series it spawned, I hope he has a better place in our history.. He certainly deserves it.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)It's actually obscene.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)...I'm not an educator professionally, and it in no way my responsibility to disabuse anyone of a cartoonish view of history.
The Presidency of Ulysses S. Grant was essential to saving the country, but the racist reformers of his time did everything in their power to malign it because they were unable to tolerate his efforts on behalf of African American former slaves.
If you're interested - and I don't think you are - you could, um, read a book, for example one of the many modern histories of Grant's Presidency that have been written but that might take time, wouldn't it?
Stick with cartoons. They're easier to grasp.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)...much time on it, since there are useful things to do.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)So we agree on something...This conversation has no practical purpose.
Have a good day sir/ma'am....
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HUAJIAO
(2,383 posts)Auggie
(31,161 posts)Grant was a good man. Naive, as politics go, but honest, smart and hardworking.
mountain grammy
(26,618 posts)In depth history is far more interesting.. Try Chernow's book, which is daunting in it's size but fascinating. The 3 part series based on the book is also excellent.
You really shouldn't put Grant and what's his name in the same sentence. Not even close.
mitch96
(13,890 posts)Constructive criticism is much more inviting that a poke in the eye..
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70sEraVet
(3,492 posts)begin to find war history interesting. I suspect that is because we are old enough to be safe from having to fight in any of them.
TEB
(12,841 posts)I volunteered infantry and never no war
Ramsey Barner
(349 posts)The OP quote is from a letter to his father, I think. His Personal Memoirs are a great read.
RobertDevereaux
(1,856 posts)A fascinating story all on its own.
safeinOhio
(32,671 posts)Now that the South has turned Republican, they need more statues of them in the South.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)safeinOhio
(32,671 posts)LeftInTX
(25,236 posts)Can't leave that out!
JudyM
(29,225 posts)Thatd make clear at a glance who the traitors and patriots are.